Terrified/furious aggressive piggy and grooming!

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Hi!

I have three female young piggies. Two are sheba mini yaks and are nearly 8 months old. One is a rex, and she is 6 months old. They’ve all been with me since they were babies, 4/6 weeks old.

The rex isn't a problem in terms of grooming, she’s thick but quite short haired, keeps herself very clean and will let me give her a nail trim and health check on my lap.

The shebas are both incredibly long and wild haired, prone to matting around the bottom, and need regular grooming. I have one who I can hold to trim nails, trim hair and every so often I use my quiet clippers to give her bottom area a good trim and make sure there are no mats. She’s not much of a fan, but she tolerates it ok.

These two are quite skittish still, but will be handled a little and we just keep going with gentle bonding and trust building. They’re still very young and they’re way less scared than they used to be. They’ll climb on laps for food when we sit down in their run and relax there. All three will be hand fed in their cage. They live indoors with us so they have tons of love and interaction.

The other sheba is our Queen of the pigs, very dominant over the other two (who don’t challenge her). She’s a very grumpy girl with a big old attitude! She categorically will not be handled. I cannot pick her up, it’s an enormous challenge to even herd her into the carrier. The minute I try to do either she hides and chatters her teeth at me loudly, she almost growls. She rumbles, and she’s even gone to give me the odd warning nip - a go away and get your stupid human hands away from me message. Received loud and clear!

Whilst I don’t mind her being her own piggy and being touched on her terms if we were just trying to cuddle her (fair enough!) she does need grooming. These piggies aren’t called ‘the bad hair day’ breed for nothing! I can see her nails need cutting and have failed in the attempt again this evening after doing the other two successfully.

I managed to get her into the carrier and quickly whiz off the area around her bottom with my clippers the other day but she was so angry and frightened. She sprayed wee at me and she did the guinea pig escape leaping to try to get out of the top of the carrier. I’d placed it in the run so she was safe, but still I absolutely hated seeing her so upset.

She desperately needs a trim around her bum, her side ‘carpets’ and fringe, a good nail trim and she needs an overall health check/tooth check. I’ve got no reason to think she has any health problems at all, but still. The hair and nails are my primary concern at the moment.

I’m willing to pay for her to go to the vet for this all of course but even getting her into the carrier (and then taking her in the car!) is going to absolutely petrify/infuriate her and I can’t guarantee she won’t try to take a chunk out of the vet!

Is there any way that I can start to make her chill out and be less terrified/aggressive? She doesn’t freeze in fear she’s more of an attack animal. She might always be a pig that’s not a lover of cuddles and if that’s the case then as long as she’s happy and healthy then that’s fine. But I can’t not care for her properly.

Any ideas?
 
It's a difficult but fascinating issue, how to make peace with your wild piggy. I think it is just gentle persistence and having the right equipment. To approach her boundaries without over stressing her. Hopefully the fear and anger will be just too much energy to sustain, and familiarity will help her to develop new habits and skills to replace them. Some people use a sling, but it is too soon for that at this stage. Having piggy tolerably nearby during the day should help, for instance while you are reading or doing something low energy. I helped with cats at a shelter and the nervous ones would eventually reach out a paw to play with a goldfish on a string. Eventually things got to the stage where I could stroke them with the wand and then move my hand along the wand until I was stroking them and they lost fear of me. Guinea pigs are not cats of course. I like to use a concertina tunnel to catch my piggies and they go into it readily as they associate it with a trip to the playpen. They really love being stroked but don't like being picked up. If I use it for anything else they become a bit wary of it, but will still go into it especially if I take all the other hiding places away. You may already be using this, of course.
Feeding long pieces of grass could be a way of getting closer.
In summer, slot of the coat could come off I suppose, so matts would be less likely but you are right to want a calmer, more manageable and friendlier piggy.
 
Oh I don’t envy you ….its very hard isn’t it ?
Have you tried putting her in a snuggle sack to get to her back end ?
I know that doesn’t help with her nails or checking her teeth tho
Maybe a trip to the vet might have to happen …they are of course experienced with unhappy animals
Good luck and sorry I can’t offer helpful advice
 
The nips are a sort of test. If they work and you move away, that encourages her to up the ante as they are working, and nip more 😄 It is tricky though because those teeth are sharp. Some piggy dramatics can be discounted though and worked through with kindness. If you decide to do something, such as shooing her into a tunnel, don't hesitate too long as this gives her more time to wind herself up with teeth chattering and dramatics. It's judging how much leeway you have between piggy dramatics and genuine trauma.
 
Thank you all so much for your tips!

Having tried again, I have successfully managed to trim two single back toe nails.I have concluded that she isn’t terrified of me one bit, I’ve been hand feeding her small pieces of salad and pea flakes, plus she’s been letting me give her nose strokes in the cage this week. She’s just a massive drama queen!

I think I’ve made the mistake of her dramatics knocking my confidence a bit and it making me wary. I’ve never had a pig show any aggression or ‘back off’ signals towards me before. I had two boys from babies (hence my username) before and although they occasionally got a bit bolshy with each other they were always incredibly tame and loving towards me. These girls are much more stroppy!

She will be genuinely terrified if I have to put her in the car and take her to the vets just for a nail trim. So she’s going to have to just buck up and let me do it.

Gardening gloves (excellent idea!) worn by Mr Boarworld and his larger hands might be the way forward if she makes a big fuss and gets bitey but I’m hopeful if I just carry on and try to trim one or two nails daily then she will pipe down and get used to it.

I did manage to give her a quick check for any lumps and bumps, any matting in her wild hair, stuff like that and she’s fine. She will need another haircut soon, her hair is absolutely bonkers but it’s not dirty or tangled so she’s ok. Luckily the last clip around her bottom means it’s all still neat and tidy.

I’ve just bought them in the house from the conservatory as although I can control the temperature to an extent in there, we are due well below freezing temperatures overnight this week and it does get a bit chilly in there when it’s very cold. I’ve set them up for the week in their lovely large run. It’s a quarter filled with a giant pile of hay, they have hideys, cuddle cups and lots of space. They are all popcorning around in there, entirely living their best lives…. all drama of nail trimming forgotten!
 
Plus her sister (the white one) whose haircut is not at all stylish but who is at least neat with tidy nails. The sisters are 8m old. Then there’s my slighter younger one (she’s just under 6m old) Leia, who is - I think - a bit of a Heinz 57 but primarily a Rex. Her fur is very thick/dense but short, so she doesn’t ever need haircuts. She has curly whiskers (CUTE!) and is the least dramatic/most chilled of all three. She quite likes a cuddle!
 

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Oh Misty is lovely!

Fliss has what I can only describe as blonde stripes, it’s more a human hair colour than animal! But yes she is very wild - by looks and nature! She was the most beautiful baby. Daisy, her sister looked like a little mouse when she was tiny, especially with her pink eyes. I did think she was full albino but as she’s got older her nose and bits around her face have gone greyer.

I’ve no idea what breeds Leia parents were, but having checked all the breed guides I’m sure she’s at least part Rex. Her fur is so dense!
 
Maybe it’s something to do with the long hair - it makes for dramatic piggies!
 
Very glad things are improving. They are lucky pigs ❤
 
Hi!

I have three female young piggies. Two are sheba mini yaks and are nearly 8 months old. One is a rex, and she is 6 months old. They’ve all been with me since they were babies, 4/6 weeks old.

The rex isn't a problem in terms of grooming, she’s thick but quite short haired, keeps herself very clean and will let me give her a nail trim and health check on my lap.

The shebas are both incredibly long and wild haired, prone to matting around the bottom, and need regular grooming. I have one who I can hold to trim nails, trim hair and every so often I use my quiet clippers to give her bottom area a good trim and make sure there are no mats. She’s not much of a fan, but she tolerates it ok.

These two are quite skittish still, but will be handled a little and we just keep going with gentle bonding and trust building. They’re still very young and they’re way less scared than they used to be. They’ll climb on laps for food when we sit down in their run and relax there. All three will be hand fed in their cage. They live indoors with us so they have tons of love and interaction.

The other sheba is our Queen of the pigs, very dominant over the other two (who don’t challenge her). She’s a very grumpy girl with a big old attitude! She categorically will not be handled. I cannot pick her up, it’s an enormous challenge to even herd her into the carrier. The minute I try to do either she hides and chatters her teeth at me loudly, she almost growls. She rumbles, and she’s even gone to give me the odd warning nip - a go away and get your stupid human hands away from me message. Received loud and clear!

Whilst I don’t mind her being her own piggy and being touched on her terms if we were just trying to cuddle her (fair enough!) she does need grooming. These piggies aren’t called ‘the bad hair day’ breed for nothing! I can see her nails need cutting and have failed in the attempt again this evening after doing the other two successfully.

I managed to get her into the carrier and quickly whiz off the area around her bottom with my clippers the other day but she was so angry and frightened. She sprayed wee at me and she did the guinea pig escape leaping to try to get out of the top of the carrier. I’d placed it in the run so she was safe, but still I absolutely hated seeing her so upset.

She desperately needs a trim around her bum, her side ‘carpets’ and fringe, a good nail trim and she needs an overall health check/tooth check. I’ve got no reason to think she has any health problems at all, but still. The hair and nails are my primary concern at the moment.

I’m willing to pay for her to go to the vet for this all of course but even getting her into the carrier (and then taking her in the car!) is going to absolutely petrify/infuriate her and I can’t guarantee she won’t try to take a chunk out of the vet!

Is there any way that I can start to make her chill out and be less terrified/aggressive? She doesn’t freeze in fear she’s more of an attack animal. She might always be a pig that’s not a lover of cuddles and if that’s the case then as long as she’s happy and healthy then that’s fine. But I can’t not care for her properly.

Any ideas?
I have a sheltie, Misa. She HATES coat maintenance. She is going to be 3 in a few months. She hates it as much now as she did as a baby. She actually is better with nail trims than coat maintenance, she hates having her coat brushed/cliipped. She also doesn't freeze- she will spin around and try to face off with the scissors. She is a feisty little nightmare!

Our solution is to make it a 2-person job. My daughter holds her and I grab and snip long/matted/tangled pieces of hair. We do small amounts often rather than a ton all at once. Afterwards she gets a treat or she gets to go sit with my husband (who is her absolute favourite person on earth.)

I kind of keep hoping she'll learn to be more accepting of it but I think this is just her temperament. If she were a short-haired pig it wouldn't be an issue, I actually love that she is smart and sassy and headstrong. She's funny and charming and one of the smarter pigs we've had and it would all be wonderful if she didn't have this crazy coat that needs so much work that she hates!

She's now my avatar picture if you want to see her usual state of disarray!
 
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