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Cyberpig

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I've not posted on here before and until Saturday, I didn't even know this forum existed. This place is such a wealth of knowledge, and this knowledge and several posts on this forum have saved my piggy's (Shui) life:<>.

As a little history, our pig is almost six years old and male, and at the moment he is our only pig. This is due to himself, because although he loves human company, he does not get on with any other pigs (he was quite a bully to our older pig who died 5 years ago). He is a free running pig, which means he has his cage with a flapdoor and he is allowed to roam upstairs. We made it guinea pig safe, and he is quite house trained (or maybe he prefers the soft hay to do his business so to speak:(|)). We always frequented the Peter Gurney website and I had guinea pigs pretty much all my life. I know about the general things (cutting nails, watching out for teeth overgrowth - interestingly enough I never had problems with that, my piggies always loved to eat hay). Also for 2 years now, we have helped Shui along with what we call his "good stuff". He suffers from the anal impaction (thanks to Peter Gurney's website we knew all about that:-) and it has become an almost daily task to feed him the "lovely smelling" stuff:^-. He has always been a good eater (eating his greens, carots, parsley peppers, cucumbers, fennel, dandelion, grass etc.). He has dried food and he eats is, but he isn't too fussed about it. He would rather eat human food, but we keep him from that;). On Friday night, he was his usual self (he spends the evenings in our sitting room - again guinea pig safe), and he as very interactive, ate some greens etc. On Saturday, something was strange. Normally he would wake us up with squeaks to announce that he was getting up and that he would like some fresh food (he is a wee bit spoilt). He didn't get up, and I looked at him, he was not looking very good (milky half closed eyes, all puffed up, big distended stomach, and no poos around him whatsoever, and no poos in his bottom (sorry I'm used to checking the impaction). When I tried to tempt him with any food (even parsley, he didn't want to eat it - although he nibbled on some salad and dandelion, which he shouldn't have). To be fair, I have had many guinea pigs and to me he looked like he would not survive Saturday. I was already crying my eyes out, and my other half was the same. However, we then went online, looked at Peter's website (although he is not very encouraging when it comes to blockages etc.), and then we went and googled bloat and guinea pig and we found this forum.

Reading all the posts, and what to do, I started immediately massaging his tummy (strangely enough he let me do it without any objections). I then went off and bought infacol, probiotic yoghurt and a syringe. By now it was quite late (4.00 pm). I gave him the infacol (I followed stinklepigs advice and gave him 0.5 ml, then I gave him some yoghurt and I started massaging. Low and behold after 10 minutes, I felt bubbles in his stomach and he started passing wind. I kept massaging and give him two more doses of infacol and yoghurt, and then massaged some more (with more bubbles and gas). I also got the first sign of something coming out of his backside, but it was very sticky and weird looking. At about 10.30 we put him in his cage, and at about 11.15 we heard him chew some hay:<>. At 3.00 am he woke us up (coming out of his cage and running into the other room, his food is kept in a different room to encourage him running around and keeping mobile). There was a carrot from the same day, and he started chomping on it. I went downstairs and brought some cucumber and fennel and dill, and he started eating all of it (he was starving). He then turned to his dried food (we put some dried herbs in there as well), and he ate that. He is still fine now, no distended stomach, he is eating healthily. We will carry on with the yoghurt (I think his impacted bottom, is partly responsible for his problematic digestive system).

However, sorry for this stupid long first post, but without having read everything on here, and without reading that bloat was treatable, we would have despaired. I don't trust vets anymore (with regards to guinea pigs), too many have told me that the best thing is to put down the animalgrrrr, when there wasn't that much wrong with them. But thanks to you, we now also know about a good vet in Dunfermline.

So just to say, thank you, thank you so much. Shui would not be alive without this forum (and he is very alive at the moment):<>.
 
Well done, glad your piggie is feeling better now. It's a great forum for advice and ideas, so welcome. :)p
 
So glad you found us when you did, i hope Shui continues to stay happy and healthy x
 
What a wonderful story! So glad to hear that Shui's doing better and hope he continues to stay happy and well :)

Welcome to the forum!

I've also found lots of great advice and support here, as well as my new (cavy savvy) Vet, after recommendation here. Keeping guinea pigs is certainly a learning curve, even for those with lots of experience, and it really helps to share knowledge with others. Your experience with Shui may now, in turn, help another owner with a poorly piggy in future :)
 
Firstly, welcome to the Forum. I'm so glad your little pig is doing so well, that is great news, and also it's very nice to hear you found help on our Forum. But there is no need to say "sorry for this stupid long first post" ..... nothing stupid about it at all; you've given us a very detailed report about your piggie, and you can post as often (and make them as long as you want) as you need to.

Please keep us posted, and we'll look forward to hearing more about Shui.
 
Hi! Welcome to the forum!

I am glad that you found us and could save Shui's life! It is so gutting for us when newbies only find us when it is already too late to save their piggies, so having a success story is such a lovely change!

It might no be bad to keep an eye on his tummy and even have him checked up by a vet, as his condition can return.

PS: Too much probiotic yoghurt is not good for guinea pigs, as their digestive system is not built to cope with dairy on a regular basis; you can substitute it with probiotic powder in his food.

Here is a link to a slightly more up to date health website (sadly, it does NOT deal with bloat), which we refer to together with Peter Gurney's website. You might find it useful to save the link under your favourites:
http://www.guinealynx.info.html

I am looking forward to meeting Shui in pictures! I love free roaming piggies (my own are allowed to as well); they are so much fun!
 
How wonderful. I love a happy ending and that is such a good ending.

You did good!
 
What a wonderful story! So glad to hear that Shui's doing better and hope he continues to stay happy and well :)

Welcome to the forum!

I've also found lots of great advice and support here, as well as my new (cavy savvy) Vet, after recommendation here. Keeping guinea pigs is certainly a learning curve, even for those with lots of experience, and it really helps to share knowledge with others. Your experience with Shui may now, in turn, help another owner with a poorly piggy in future :)

I honestly hope so

Firstly, welcome to the Forum. I'm so glad your little pig is doing so well, that is great news, and also it's very nice to hear you found help on our Forum. But there is no need to say "sorry for this stupid long first post" ..... nothing stupid about it at all; you've given us a very detailed report about your piggie, and you can post as often (and make them as long as you want) as you need to.

Please keep us posted, and we'll look forward to hearing more about Shui.

That's very kind of you. I honestly felt it was a bit long, but myself and my other half really felt we should give you guys a big thank you.

PS: Too much probiotic yoghurt is not good for guinea pigs, as their digestive system is not built to cope with dairy on a regular basis; you can substitute it with probiotic powder in his food.

Here is a link to a slightly more up to date health website (sadly, it does NOT deal with bloat), which we refer to together with Peter Gurney's website. You might find it useful to save the link under your favourites:
http://www.guinealynx.info.html

I am looking forward to meeting Shui in pictures! I love free roaming piggies (my own are allowed to as well); they are so much fun!

Thanks for the tip with the yoghurt (it's frightening how quickly you can go wrong). I'll monitor the situation, and might get the powder, but maybe I just give him something once a month. Thanks for the link as well. Free roaming pigs are fun. To be fair, Shui would go mental if he wasn't allowed to. He keeps scratching on the toilet door when it is closed (seriously), he is such an explorer pig.

Firstly hi & welcome :)

What a lovely insight into Shui's life & i'm so very glad he's now doing ok.

I have boars who are impacted, tho' not as bad as Shui & have found giving them probiotic (not yoghurt) helps. I give this one http://www.petsathome.com/shop/proc-probiotic-100gm-by-vetark-

I look forward to hearing more about Shui :)

Interestingly enough, he is producing lovely poos at the moment, and has not been impacted since we have given him the yoghurt. Yesterday, I saw him eating one of his poos, which was a lovely sight (I promise I'm not obsessed with "poo":(|)). It's just that he had dreadful problems in the last two years, and now all of a sudden, it's better.

He is doing very well at the moment, but I will probably take him to a vet in the next few days. I'm working from home at the moment, so I keep monitoring him (he has spent most of the morning lying underneath my desk asking for everthing under the sun and nibbling my feet).

Thanks for the warm welcome, it's lovely to see that so many people care about guinea pigs (most people seem to consider them somehow inferior to dogs and cats, and they never understand why I'm upset when there is something wrong with one of my piggies).
 
Welcome to the forum, I'm so pleased you were able to administer the right treatment so quickly; it's not just testament to how useful talking to other piggie people can be (or reading past conversations) but also to your own ability to recognise the problem very quickly.

I've had a few experiences with bloat, having two pigs who are very sensitive to particular foods which leads to a bloat condition of sorts, one of these quite recently had a lot of problems. I do find the massage helps a lot, and in terms of medication a combination of Buscopan and Infacol really does help - although when the pig isn't pooping I'd be inclined to avoid Buscopan until some movement is restored. With regards to the infacol dose I used to stick with very low amounts, but after Dexter's worsening problems I gave 1ml and it was helpful; I also have a reliable friend who advises 2ml every few hours in severe cases of bloat. Maybe something worth remembering in future, just in case it ever happens again. (Which I hope it doesn't!)

Well done you. :)
 
Cyberpig

You can never over-estimate the contribution of this forum - but you have to be an observant, reasonably educated (pig-wise) and dedicated owner to spot these things in time. Credit is due to you for timely action.

It's great to hear of a succesful bloat outcome.
 
Cyberpig I thoroughly enjoyed reading your post! I'm so happy that Shui is well again and seeming to be better than he was before :)) Perhaps we should all put together some kind of guinea pig massage routine for those that are anally challenged and it might sort their impaction problems outrolleyes (is he still impacted or is he pooing normally? yes i AM obsessed with poo :)p)

Shui sounds like a brilliant piggie, he is so lucky as well to have the run of the house. I'd love to see photosdrool

Thanks for posting and look forward to seeing you on here more x
 
Shui sounds like such a character! I'm so pleased that he's doing better now, it must be a huge relief for you xx>>>
 
Just very quickly, I was not able to access the forum in the last two days, I don't know why. At the moment it's still very slow, but I'll try.....

Thank you again for all the nice messages.

Welcome to the forum, I'm so pleased you were able to administer the right treatment so quickly; it's not just testament to how useful talking to other piggie people can be (or reading past conversations) but also to your own ability to recognise the problem very quickly.

I've had a few experiences with bloat, having two pigs who are very sensitive to particular foods which leads to a bloat condition of sorts, one of these quite recently had a lot of problems. I do find the massage helps a lot, and in terms of medication a combination of Buscopan and Infacol really does help - although when the pig isn't pooping I'd be inclined to avoid Buscopan until some movement is restored. With regards to the infacol dose I used to stick with very low amounts, but after Dexter's worsening problems I gave 1ml and it was helpful; I also have a reliable friend who advises 2ml every few hours in severe cases of bloat. Maybe something worth remembering in future, just in case it ever happens again. (Which I hope it doesn't!)

Well done you. :)

Cyberpig

You can never over-estimate the contribution of this forum - but you have to be an observant, reasonably educated (pig-wise) and dedicated owner to spot these things in time. Credit is due to you for timely action.

It's great to hear of a succesful bloat outcome.

Firstly, thank you both for your compliments, but I was very lucky that it happened on a weekend and that I didn't have to rush out at 6.30 in the morning. I also think, the impaction is a blessing in disguise, because you have to look very closely at your piggy every day.

Thank you Laura for the advice re: Buscopan and Infacol. I had bought some buscopan as well, but I didn't administer it (thank godness for that looking at your advice).

I'll included the massage in our daily routine now, and the little attention pig is loving it. :)) (sorry we have all sort of nicknames for him).
 
Hi and welcome from us in OZ :)
Gosh poor Shui has been thru a lot! You sound like lovely owners and care so much for your piggies, i love the idea of Shui having the run of the place! Peter Gurney would be smiling about that i'm sure :)
Sorry to hear about the recent problems, but really really glad that the bloat/gas seems to have gone! i have had experience with a bloat piggie and i found the infacol brilliant and yup been thru the expelling the poops to relieve the butt thing :{ i didn't find it too bad actually as long as you do it regularly.
Wishing you both and Shui all the best xx>>>xx>>>

Glynis, Velvet and Onyx xxxxx

and yes you are so right this forum is informative and very friendly, i've made many many friends, some who'll be in my life forever in my past 3 years here :)
 
Cyberpig I thoroughly enjoyed reading your post! I'm so happy that Shui is well again and seeming to be better than he was before :)) Perhaps we should all put together some kind of guinea pig massage routine for those that are anally challenged and it might sort their impaction problems outrolleyes (is he still impacted or is he pooing normally? yes i AM obsessed with poo :)p)

Shui sounds like a brilliant piggie, he is so lucky as well to have the run of the house. I'd love to see photosdrool

Thanks for posting and look forward to seeing you on here more x

What a brilliant suggestion:(|). At the moment, his impaction is cleared, but he still isn't overly keen to push it out (don't know how to say it any other way:red). However, instead of having to feed him a big chunk of smelly matters, I can now feed him with poo pellets:). (I'm pleased you are obsessed with poo, now I can finally admit it.... I'm too, maybe we should set up the APO (anonymous poo obsessives;).

I'll try to upload a picture of him lying in front of the fire place (let's see if it works).

I'll definitely join in more, when the problems with the my Internet speed are sorted out (we have snow here at the moment, I wonder whether this is the problem).
 

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It was in our old house, and he was only a year old. He really enjoyed lying there, maybe because of the heat.
 

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Cyberpig

If only all piggies enjoyed the level of respect yours obviously does. This forum is definitely the place to find more like him (deeply loved) and many like yourself. Credit absolutely where it's due.
 
Hi and welcome from us in OZ :)
Gosh poor Shui has been thru a lot! You sound like lovely owners and care so much for your piggies, i love the idea of Shui having the run of the place! Peter Gurney would be smiling about that i'm sure :)
Sorry to hear about the recent problems, but really really glad that the bloat/gas seems to have gone! i have had experience with a bloat piggie and i found the infacol brilliant and yup been thru the expelling the poops to relieve the butt thing :{ i didn't find it too bad actually as long as you do it regularly.
Wishing you both and Shui all the best xx>>>xx>>>

Glynis, Velvet and Onyx xxxxx

and yes you are so right this forum is informative and very friendly, i've made many many friends, some who'll be in my life forever in my past 3 years here

Cyberpig

If only all piggies enjoyed the level of respect yours obviously does. This forum is definitely the place to find more like him (deeply loved) and many like yourself. Credit absolutely where it's due.

Thanks again to everyone who has left a message, and for your kind advice and compliments. By the way, we only found out last week that Peter had passed away (we bookmarked his page at the ailment bit in 2003), so we were very sorry to see that. He certainly has saved our piggies many times before with his advice, and he seemed like a wonderful man.

As an update, Shui is sitting next to us, stuffing himself with broccoli. He has been running around a lot, eating hay and just generally enjoying his life. I think we know what was responsible for the bloat. It was probably sugary fruit (grapes and melon). He was always fine with it, but I think he can't eat it anymore. He is definitely recovered, and even more surprising, he is better than before (probably due to the daily tummy massages). We browsed through some threads this morning, and we realised how lucky we really were.

Thanks again from Monja (main writer:)), Stig (great guinea pig lover:)) and Shui (adventure pig:(|))
 
great to here how the forum helped. infacol is magic stuff ! a while back my piggie gorgeous had bloat and it helped her along with belly rubs to get better:)
 
This is a very sad post, our beloved little Shui has unfortunately died on 14 January. Unfortunately, bloat got him in the end (although we are not sure whether this was the main reason or just a side effect).

Since my first post on here, we kept giving him probioticsmassaged him daily, and also started to restrict his veggies (e.g. whenever he got slight bloat after something, we removed it from his diet). Unfortunately, he still didn't want to drink so we had to give him extra water on top of his bum impaction, which needed to be sorted at least 2 times a day.

On the night before he died, he was still fit and ok (although more spoilt than ususal). However, he felt a bit bloated, so I gave him a small dosage of infacol and massaged his tummy until he passed wind and we went to bed quite late. At about 3 my other half woke up by Shui running around the room, we thought the door was closed which meant he couldn't go into the kitchen where his dried food is kept (he has hay in his cage in the bedroom). However, he didn't want to go out, but was just running around like mental. We got up and tried to give him something to eat, he was a bit bloated, but he also seemed to have forgotten his surroundings and even worse didn't really seem to recognise us. I gave him infacol, and started massaging, he just wouldn't settle down, but i kept massaging for quite a while, and then i put him down. He run around like mad again, but then settled a bit, and seemed a bit better. We both stayed at home, when I went to see him in his cage again 10 minutes later, he had disappeared, we tried to look everywhere for an whole hour and we were desperate. We finally found him in the guestroom, stuck between the box and the wall with his head against the wall, all fluffed up. We knew there wasn't much chance then. We took him to the vet immediately. She told us that he was bloated (we kept massaging him in the car), and gave him buscopan and some pain relief. We took him home again and gave him gentle tummy rubs, and water and some essential feed she gave us. However, his front legs became all stiff and he couldn't sit up anymore, and he literally died in my hand (I had bedded him on his favourite blanket on our bed, and we both spend the last hours with him).

I couldn't post on here before, because Shui really was an integral part of our life. Since the big bloat last March, he fell asleep in my arms every night, curled up like a baby. He really was our little baby.

Thank you again for helping to save him last year, we since moved to a bungalow and Shui absolutely loved the fact that he could always be with us (breakfast in the morning in the kitchen; coming into the sitting room at night, waiting for us in the corridor when we came home from work, or sitting underneath my desk when I was working from home. Without you he wouldn't have this additional bungalow freedom.
 
Oh I'm so sorry for your loss, but it sounds like he had an amazing long and happy life with you, RIP little Shui.

You must be heartbroken without him xx
 
I'm so sorry, that's so sad :( But it sounds like he had the most amazing life, was brilliantly looked after and lived to a good age
 
very sorry for your loss
 
I'm so sorry to hear of Shui's passing. You must be devastated. I'm glad that he had an extra 9 months with you while you managed his bloat condition though. It sounds like he truely was your baby and my heart goes out to you. It must be ever so difficult being at home without him there now. Hold tight to all your lovely memories of him. Thinking of you both x x x
 
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