The first few days with a new friend

LunaticPoodle

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If anyone's curious, here's an update about Geezer the werewolf pig and his new baby friend :)

Baby's growing steady, his given name was Eppu Normaali which is a popular rock band in Finland, but translates to "Abby Normal" from the movie Young Frankenstein. We kept his name because it's hilarious.
Since the introduction Geezer has turned from wild teenager into the most responsible, loving piggie dad. I am so proud of him for stepping up! He hasn't been humping or chasing or nipping, just occasionally rumbles at the baby. They sleep close or nose to nose, popcorn together, the baby follows him like a shadow and if he ventures outside alone and starts wheeking, Geezer immediately responds and comes looking for him to take him home. Sometimes he goes to hide in a tunnel or under a blanket just to have some alone time, he really looks like an exhausted parent😂 Now, I'm not trying to give pigs human behaviours, but I've been wondering if they do "baby talk". I've noticed when they interact, chit-chat so to speak, Geezer uses a different pitch than his usual voice, which is softer and more similar to the baby's. 🤔

Baby Eppu has also taught him to drink from a bottle (Tony wasn't a big drinker, so I only saw Geezer use a bottle once when he was still a baby). Yesterday he picked up courage to come eat some dill from our hands. His favourite way of walking from A to B is popcorning, so we must be doing something right 😄
So, everything looks brilliant and hopefully it will continue to be brilliant after Eppu hits puberty!

I have been considering adopting another pair of boars, as we have the space and bought a ridiculous amount of grids (they are near impossible to find in Finland, so we decided to just have a lot of spares). Husband however is not a fan of the idea as he fears it would possibly disrupt the harmony, and that we would end up with "royalty pigs" and "second rate pigs" who get a smaller enclosure and less floor time. He does have a point cos we can't fit another 7x4 in the living room...
I do think even a 5x3 would be an improvement for pigs who lived in a pet store cage tho, and that we could fit next to the bigger one. It does feel unfair though, yes.
Any thoughts?
 
I’m glad they are getting along so well. I agree about the talking. When we first introduced Pepper to Percy there was definitely lots of chit chat going on for a few weeks. It was Percy showing him the ropes and explaining everything I think. They talk less now they are a bit older. I would say enjoy the 2 lovely piggies you have. If you did get more it might upset the balance.
 
Thank you. I really have to get used to the idea that we can't give a home to all the pigs :( It just breaks my heart to see those tiny cages and lone pigs and adult pigs being rehomed. Some of them have been waiting for months, but they're too far away for us to drive there. I'm thankful to you (and my husband) for being the voice of reason.
 
Hello neighbour! Estonia here!

Sounds like your little ones are settling in so well, happy to hear they've found a loving home :wub: . Would love to see pictures!
 
I’m glad they are getting along so well. I agree about the talking. When we first introduced Pepper to Percy there was definitely lots of chit chat going on for a few weeks. It was Percy showing him the ropes and explaining everything I think. They talk less now they are a bit older. I would say enjoy the 2 lovely piggies you have. If you did get more it might upset the balance.
Hi, me again, I apologise if I'm being annoying, but please hear me out as to why I'm still thinking about adding more pigs to our family:

We're well into our 40s, child-free, financially stable.

We have a big house. There's a spare/guest room that I use as my study that I could use to quarantine, and it could house another pair of pigs if being neighbours with the other two is a bad idea. Of course we spend more time in the living room than the study so it would be unfair to the pigs who receive less interaction, so I'd prefer them to be neighbours.

We'd go for an already bonded pair of adult boars, not babies.

I'd never push my luck and attempt a quartet, just nope.

I'd wait a few months to even try and move the new pair into the living room as I want to see how things go between Geezer and the baby.

I know I already received good advice, but I feel like if we have the means to offer a good home to more pigs, we should. If you really think I'm just asking for trouble by doing so though, then I won't adopt any more pigs and that's that.
 
Hi, me again, I apologise if I'm being annoying, but please hear me out as to why I'm still thinking about adding more pigs to our family:

We're well into our 40s, child-free, financially stable.

We have a big house. There's a spare/guest room that I use as my study that I could use to quarantine, and it could house another pair of pigs if being neighbours with the other two is a bad idea. Of course we spend more time in the living room than the study so it would be unfair to the pigs who receive less interaction, so I'd prefer them to be neighbours.

We'd go for an already bonded pair of adult boars, not babies.

I'd never push my luck and attempt a quartet, just nope.

I'd wait a few months to even try and move the new pair into the living room as I want to see how things go between Geezer and the baby.

I know I already received good advice, but I feel like if we have the means to offer a good home to more pigs, we should. If you really think I'm just asking for trouble by doing so though, then I won't adopt any more pigs and that's that.
Lol. Do what makes you happy. Life’s too short (ours and piggies). Sounds like you’ve thought it through.
 
Lol. Do what makes you happy. Life’s too short (ours and piggies). Sounds like you’ve thought it through.
😂Thanks, but while I did think it through, I'm aware that I'm still a newbie and if more experienced people say it's risky... I will listen!
 
I think if you have the means to pay for the vet fees and have the space, then the next thing to consider would be whether you’re willing to double the time you spend on cage cleaning and health checking.

I would also say you should know your upper limit, else you may just keep going. They’re addictive but you can’t save them all.
 
I think if you have the means to pay for the vet fees and have the space, then the next thing to consider would be whether you’re willing to double the time you spend on cage cleaning and health checking.

I would also say you should know your upper limit, else you may just keep going. They’re addictive but you can’t save them all.
It is so true. Husband says he'll change the wi-fi password if I keep looking at that website 😂 🤣 😂 🤣 mainly because he would also want to save them all, but luckily he's the more rational one.
4 pigs would be the limit. Enthusiasm alone is not what cleans cages after a long day's work, and I'm well aware I'm not experienced enough to care for more that 4 pigs effectively.

More than 2 pairs would also mean reducing each pair's cage size, and that's not something I want to do. Geezer and the baby have a massive enclosure, and they use all of it. Given I'm away for 10 hours a day, I want them to have space to run. Husband works from home most of the week because of Covid and they can be out when one of us is home, but he'll likely be returning to the office once this is over. (living room can be divided with grids too so they wouldn't get to each other while free roaming)

Vet fees are budgeted for.

The only doubt is if it will disrupt the perfect situation we have now, where two pigs get along spectacularly. As of right now, they're happy, healthy and love each other. If giving them neighbours means stressing them and jeopardizing their relationship, I'd rather not.
 
If you’re bringing a boar pair then they won’t disrupt your current pair. All you have to do is not try to bond them all. Boar pairs can live alongside each other. And the same goes for sow pairs living alongside each other.

Where you could run into problems is introducing sow pheromones into their space. You can house them in the same room - as far apart as possible, or sows below boars - but the ideal is a different room entirely.
 
Another thing to remember is that once hormones kick in sometimes bonds fail anyway even without more piggies in the mix. ☹️
 
You do what is right for you.
It sounds as if you have thought everything through carefully and have a big heart ❤️.

Keep on posting- we‘re always here for each other to talk.
Most of us struggle with wanting to save all the piggies.
My boy Micah is the result of my heart completely bypassing my brain!

It’d good to have someone who is the voice of reason - my husband is my voice of reason too.
 
Thanks everyone, really.
We'd be bringing in an adult boar pair, there's plenty being rehomed within a reasonable driving distance at the moment. Those that have been waiting the longest unfortunately are way up north beyond the Arctic Circle and it's way too far for us to drive.
If we do decide to take them in eventually, I'd have to quarantine them anyway, so they can be in the other room for a while. Geezer did have quite a lot going on in the last couple months poor baby, so that would give him time to settle his relationship with the baby too...
Very, very tempted indeed. It goes without saying, no quartet and no shared floor time of course! 🙂
 
I would say don't give up on your dream of 4 but all things being equal it might be wise to wait just a little longer to make sure that your current pair's bond survives when puberty hits Eppu! Or you might find yourself with a functioning pair and two singles who you'd like to find matches for..? But who am I to rain on your parade!
 
I would say don't give up on your dream of 4 but all things being equal it might be wise to wait just a little longer to make sure that your current pair's bond survives when puberty hits Eppu! Or you might find yourself with a functioning pair and two singles who you'd like to find matches for..? But who am I to rain on your parade!
That is true, that's why I was thinking about separate rooms entirely for a few months at least. There's always boys being rehomed for some reason or other, so there's no hurry really. 🙂
 
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