Trying to bond my boisterous, poorly sow. Advice, please?

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Hi,

I need some advice re bonding. I have 5 guinea pigs, 4 of which live together in pairs:
  • Griff (1-2yo, neutered boar) and Nell (2-3yo very overtly dominant sow)
  • Sybil and Jovie (sister sows, 5yo)
  • Tiggy (3yo+ sow). She arrived with Nell 3 months ago, and has been slowly recovering from major health problems.
I felt Nell's overt dominance was too much strain on poorly Tiggy, who behaved initially like she'd been food-deprived and had to fight for her place. So I bonded Nell with Griff instead, and they seem beautifully matched. This feels like absolutely the right decision. My initial intention was to form a 3-5 pig tribe with these younger pigs, but this hasn't worked out as yet, sadly. Following advice on here, I tried several bonding sessions with Tiggy, Sybil and Jovie (my easy going old ladies), but heartbreakingly, this resulted in a fight almost breaking out between Tiggy and Jovie (fast circling). I tried 3-5 short bonding sessions in total, I think, but haven't dared try again since that 'almost-fight'.
Recently, as Tiggy is considerably calmer than she was, I tried to bond her with Griff and Nell. Sadly, again, this didn't work out. They kept cornering her and at one point, Nell lunged at Tiggy out of nowhere. I love her, but Nell is a pretty scary pig. 😅
I don't know what to do. I don't want Tiggy to be without a companion, but she also has chronic pain (ditto, girl) and ovarian cysts, so I think she's pretty irritable, bless her. When she's not totally disinterested in them, she teeth-chatters at her siblings a lot. She also doesn't seem to respond to social corrections well e.g. she kept getting in Sybil's personal space too much (even trying to eat from her mouth 😬) and Sybil was being VERY clear that she didn't like it.
I feel so sorry for her. She's a lovely pig. The RVN we see regularly for grooming has encouraged me to persist, but I'm scared of putting a pig who's in a fragile state of recovery through relentless bonding attempts. I'm also afraid of bullying in each potential trio, and especially of destabilising my old ladies, S & J, who have a lifelong sisterly bond. And I'm generally just scared of Nell, and how she would treat ANY new pig. 🥹

What do you suggest? Thanks.
 
Sorry to be a nag - still really needing advice on this. Can anyone help? Thank you.
 
flopren said:
Hi,

I need some advice re bonding. I have 5 guinea pigs, 4 of which live together in pairs:
  • Griff (1-2yo, neutered boar) and Nell (2-3yo very overtly dominant sow)
  • Sybil and Jovie (sister sows, 5yo)
  • Tiggy (3yo+ sow). She arrived with Nell 3 months ago, and has been slowly recovering from major health problems.
I felt Nell's overt dominance was too much strain on poorly Tiggy, who behaved initially like she'd been food-deprived and had to fight for her place. So I bonded Nell with Griff instead, and they seem beautifully matched. This feels like absolutely the right decision. My initial intention was to form a 3-5 pig tribe with these younger pigs, but this hasn't worked out as yet, sadly. Following advice on here, I tried several bonding sessions with Tiggy, Sybil and Jovie (my easy going old ladies), but heartbreakingly, this resulted in a fight almost breaking out between Tiggy and Jovie (fast circling). I tried 3-5 short bonding sessions in total, I think, but haven't dared try again since that 'almost-fight'.
Recently, as Tiggy is considerably calmer than she was, I tried to bond her with Griff and Nell. Sadly, again, this didn't work out. They kept cornering her and at one point, Nell lunged at Tiggy out of nowhere. I love her, but Nell is a pretty scary pig. 😅
I don't know what to do. I don't want Tiggy to be without a companion, but she also has chronic pain (ditto, girl) and ovarian cysts, so I think she's pretty irritable, bless her. When she's not totally disinterested in them, she teeth-chatters at her siblings a lot. She also doesn't seem to respond to social corrections well e.g. she kept getting in Sybil's personal space too much (even trying to eat from her mouth 😬) and Sybil was being VERY clear that she didn't like it.
I feel so sorry for her. She's a lovely pig. The RVN we see regularly for grooming has encouraged me to persist, but I'm scared of putting a pig who's in a fragile state of recovery through relentless bonding attempts. I'm also afraid of bullying in each potential trio, and especially of destabilising my old ladies, S & J, who have a lifelong sisterly bond. And I'm generally just scared of Nell, and how she would treat ANY new pig. 🥹

What do you suggest? Thanks.
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Hi

It doesn't sound very encouraging. Maybe the best thing would just keeping her alongside her family with interaction through the bars but with her own territory.

Speaking from a personal wealth of experiences with trying socialise difficult piggies and finding them a compatible friend or new situation, manage fall-outs between sows and antisocial piggies, sometimes you just have to accept the fact that - after you have tried all possible combos within your reach - it is quite simply not going to work out. Since piggies are very much their own persons with their own ideas and outlook, it may be better to keep her as a live alongside single so she still has interaction but also her own space and concentrate on her comfort and personal enrichment. The other sows have by now all made up their mind that they don't want her back on their own doormat.

It is totally gutting, as I know only too well; but you can do more harm than good by trying to achieve something that is not within reach because the concept comes from your own expectations of how things should be and not from the real situation of how things are.

Once sows make up their mind as to who is no longer a member of their group - even if at the extreme it is a group that just consists of themselves -, then you have had it. The undersows will usually range behind the leader and close ranks. There is no magic wand measure that can change that.

We can encourage our members to try all possible and reasonable options but we cannot change the dynamics of guinea pig groups and individual personalities or the reality on the ground.

Please try to focus on how you can maximise Tiggy's comfort and wellbeing and spend quality time with her. Enrichment is a lot more than toys and can cover many different areas. It can be tough with neglect cases where there are not just major health deficits but also some major social/socialisation deficits. Give Tiggy time but don't try to push it and don't try to push it with your other piggies; they have made up their mind.
Enrichment Ideas for Guinea Pigs

HUGS
 
Wiebke said:
Hi

It doesn't sound very encouraging. Maybe the best thing would just keeping her alongside her family with interaction through the bars but with her own territory.

Speaking from a personal wealth of experiences with trying socialise difficult piggies and finding them a compatible friend or new situation, manage fall-outs between sows and antisocial piggies, sometimes you just have to accept the fact that - after you have tried all possible combos within your reach - it is quite simply not going to work out. Since piggies are very much their own persons with their own ideas and outlook, it may be better to keep her as a live alongside single so she still has interaction but also her own space and concentrate on her comfort and personal enrichment. The other sows have by now all made up their mind that they don't want her back on their own doormat.

It is totally gutting, as I know only too well; but you can do more harm than good by trying to achieve something that is not within reach because the concept comes from your own expectations of how things should be and not from the real situation of how things are.

Once sows make up their mind as to who is no longer a member of their group - even if at the extreme it is a group that just consists of themselves -, then you have had it. The undersows will usually range behind the leader and close ranks. There is no magic wand measure that can change that.

We can encourage our members to try all possible and reasonable options but we cannot change the dynamics of guinea pig groups and individual personalities or the reality on the ground.

Please try to focus on how you can maximise Tiggy's comfort and wellbeing and spend quality time with her. Enrichment is a lot more than toys and can cover many different areas. It can be tough with neglect cases where there are not just major health deficits but also some major social/socialisation deficits. Give Tiggy time but don't try to push it and don't try to push it with your other piggies; they have made up their mind.
Enrichment Ideas for Guinea Pigs

HUGS
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So helpful. Thank you! 🙏🏻
 
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