Two new young piggies and bonding

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Hello

I will have two young females (about 2 months, but not sisters) from one certified breeder. What about bonding? I asked the breeder to introduce them and let them spend time together but they will be in completely new situation. Please advise how to welcome them. Can I put them in one cage after they arrive (120cm)? And how to know that they can stay together alone? We will be at home for the first week but we both work so they will be alone for 8-10 hours.
 
I didn't really understand the question - sorry.

Are the girls currently living together at the breeders?
Guinea pigs don't really do 'play dates' or spending time together - they need to live together full time once they have been bonded.

So if they are already living together and you bring them home together, then it is fine to put them in a cage together.
There will be some possible scuffles as they sort out dominance in a new environment, but just make sure the new cage has 2 of everything and hides with 2 exits (cardboard boxed and bendy stick bridges are good for this).

If they are currently living separately (short introductions don't count) then once you get home you need to bond them in a neutral area before you put them in their cage.
A guide to that is here:
Behaviour, Bonding & Bereavement Guides
 
I asked the breeder and she will put them together once the younger one is big enough to be separated from her mother. I hope that they will be bonded then so that I could put them in one cage.
 
Hello

I will have two young females (about 2 months, but not sisters) from one certified breeder. What about bonding? I asked the breeder to introduce them and let them spend time together but they will be in completely new situation. Please advise how to welcome them. Can I put them in one cage after they arrive (120cm)? And how to know that they can stay together alone? We will be at home for the first week but we both work so they will be alone for 8-10 hours.

Hi and welcome

Guinea pigs don't do 'play dates' - every meeting is a full-on aborted bonding session to their own upset and frustration.
Once you have committed with a bonding, you have to see it through and ride the tiger.

Please take the time to carefully read these guides here:
Bonding and Interaction: Illustrated social behaviours and bonding dynamics (this guide talks you through the complete bonding process including understanding social interactive behaviours and dynamics. It also has a special chapter on the peculiarities of sow bonding)
Sows: Behaviour and female health problems (including ovarian cysts)

Be aware that piggies from a for sale breeder are often very skittish in my experience.
You also need to make sure that you double-check the gender upon arrival and that your your girls have NOT been with any boar over 3 weeks. Far too many breeders are sadly rather ignorant or very cavalier when it comes to some vital biological facts.
Since anybody can call themselves a breeder without licence or welfare checks, there are all kinds out there. We not rarely see the sorry results in our section for unplanned pregnancies support, which is sadly much busier than it should be.
Settling In And Making Friends With Guinea Pigs - A Guide

If you want to be sure that you bring home stably bonded, fully quarantined/vet treated and guaranteed not pregnant sows, then please consider whether you'd rather want to adopt from one of our carefully vetted recommend guinea pig rescues.
No messing around with bonding, health and pregnancy worries, and you have the rescue at your back if you have worries.

Since anybody can also call themselves a rescue the same as breeders and with all shades and levels of conduct in between, we can only vouch for the listed rescues. You can find the links to lists in several countries at the bottom of our new owners guide collection, in which we specifically address all the issues that we get the most enquiries and concerns about in a practical and specific way: Getting Started - New Owners' Most Helpful Guides
 
The breeder is registered in the Cavies Club of Poland and the pigs will have their pedigrees. She is rather trusted person and will keep them together once they can be separated from their mothers. I hope that everything goes well.
 
The breeder is registered in the Cavies Club of Poland and the pigs will have their pedigrees. She is rather trusted person and will keep them together once they can be separated from their mothers. I hope that everything goes well.


All the best! Thank you for adding your location.

No good rescues in your country...

Babies are generally desperate for company, so they should bond well. :tu:
Take the time to read through our comprehensive information in the links I have given you in my last post. You will find it very helpful.

We do not only look at behaviours and interaction from a human perspective but also from the viewpoint of guinea pigs.
That helps a lot when it comes to understanding what they are telling us and to address issues in ways that make sense to them. the bonding and behaviour guide is very detailed. You will find that you'll understand a lot of what is going on between your girls after reading it and looking it up when watching them. ;)

It is normal to be very apprehensive at first.
 
I read all the materials recommened and I have just one more question. I assume that the girls will come to my house already bonded as the breeder will keep them together. But I have read that young pigs can break their bond when they are getting into puberty. I'm a bit afraid of it and what if they start to fight and bite each other while I am away from home for about 10 hours (at work)?
And as for their new cage at my place... I know that they may sort out the dominance in their new territory but can you tell how long I should supervise them? Can I leave them alone for night, go to work the next day etc.?
Sorry for all those questions but I have no experince in young piggies. I had only well-bonded adult pair.
 
I read all the materials recommened and I have just one more question. I assume that the girls will come to my house already bonded as the breeder will keep them together. But I have read that young pigs can break their bond when they are getting into puberty. I'm a bit afraid of it and what if they start to fight and bite each other while I am away from home for about 10 hours (at work)?
And as for their new cage at my place... I know that they may sort out the dominance in their new territory but can you tell how long I should supervise them? Can I leave them alone for night, go to work the next day etc.?
Sorry for all those questions but I have no experince in young piggies. I had only well-bonded adult pair.

Hi!

- Unlike teenage boars in too small cages where they cannot get away from each other when their personalities do not match, sows may squabble if they their personalities do not mesh but they do generally not fight and bite. Coming into season can be high and VERY vocal drama, but it doesn't translate into fights.

- If they have already been living together at the breeder's, then you will see just a repeat of some dominance behaviour as they re-establish their group. Do not have any hideys with just one exit in the cage; especially not in the first two weeks, but make sure that you have at least two of each and that remove the pellet/ veg bowls between meals. This removes the potential trouble points.
Evicting the underpiggy from a hidey or food bowl is a normal part of establishing the privileges of leadership. It is mainly just throwing the weight around. Keep in mind that youngsters are very vocal and dramatic and discount 90% of the drama. As long as the behaviours you see are typical for the post-bonding dominance phase, there is no reason for you to worry.
The roughest bit is usually over after the first couple of days once they start the settling in process. Any seasons, especially the first few ones, tend to be stronger. Just keep in mind that the excess of emotion has purpose: sharing the experience served to cement the bond further.

- Take a deep breath! You will generally see soon after their arrival how things are going; and you can see that within a few hours.
If they are very skittish, they will just snuggle up together for comfort at first until they get their bearings in their new home. Please be aware that a home is a totally new and very alien environment for them. Place a blanket or sheet over the cage to give them a feeling of protection and leave them to it.
You can use the bedding in their carrier to rub down any furniture, bars, fleece and cosies to make the new cage smell of them and mark it as a 'safe' place.
Follow the tips in the guides below to avoid coming across as a hunting predator.
Before you put the girls in the cage, invite them into the group you are leading and tell them that they are cherished and loved (piggy whispering). This gives them a group identity, means that they 'belong' and also establishes you as a kind of super piggy.
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