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Underdeveloped Male Guinea Pig?

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Hello everyone.

I was wondering whether someone could shed some light on my guinea pig's situation.

His name is Tian and I got him from a pet shop roughly 5 weeks ago, along with his mother and his little sister.
I wasn't told their age but I think they were less than two weeks old at the time so they could be anywhere between 6-8 weeks.

His little sister was tiny when I first got her but she grew up quite nicely. She's always eating, drinking plenty of water, being very active, vocal etc. Her coat is quite thick and she's a real character.
Tian didn't grow up as nicely as she did. When I got them, he was roughly twice her size. For the first 2-3 weeks he was as active as she was, eating and drinking a lot. He was even being a bit reprimanded by mum for being a bit too hyper. After the first 2-3 weeks, I noticed a change. He had got quieter and was not nearly as active as before. I had decided to give them some time to adjust to their surroundings but when I saw him being like that, I decided to pick him up to see if anything's wrong and I was shocked to see his two front legs bent. I took him to the vet but was told I had to way a few days to get him examined as there was a national holiday in the middle of the week. I took him to the vet after a couple of days and after they took some X-Rays, I was told that is hereditary but his quality of life would be acceptable and so I should let him be. When I asked why it appeared so suddenly, the doctor said it's because they develop quite rapidly and any such hereditary issues (incest related) can appear suddenly. The alternative was to re-break and straighten his legs and I would never do that to him.
I'm worried because his coat is thin, he is thin (I can feel his rear bones) and he's not growing like he should. His little sister got huge and he's only a big bigger than when I first got him. He is passing what seems like healthy stool (firm and dark) and eating as well as drinking. Most of the time he's curled up in a corner taking naps. I don't know what to attribute this to and unfortunately, living in Cyprus, I don't have access to good exotic vets. I really do not want the poor thing to be suffering.

Any information is highly appreciated.
 
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Welcome to the forum. There are several issues here, as well as his lack of development. Firstly, is he still living with his mother and sister? If so he needs to be taken out and kept separately as he could make the girls pregnant (as early as 3 weeks old). Secondly, is he in pain? If so he may not be eating enough and this could be why he isn't thriving. It would be worth going to the vet for some pain meds (I'm not sure what drugs they would be in Cyprus). Thirdly, have you tried hand feeding, using a syringe, to try to get his weight up? His quality of life is important and you are the only one who can make a judgement on that, but I would take him back to the vet (maybe a different one?) I'm tagging a few of the other health advisors to see if anyone knows of a member in Cyprus who may be able to help locate a decent vet and if they have any ideas on his condition.

@Pebble
@helen105281
@Wiebke
 
Hi and welcome!

I am very sorry for his predicament.

Please be aware that male guinea pigs can make babies from 3 weeks onwards and that sows can become pregnant from 4 weeks onwards. Please separate the sexes immediately; you will want to monitor his food intake very closely anyway!

As @Elwickcavies has said, there can be a pain issue that is preventing him from eating, so please ask your vet for some painkiller (like metacam or a derivative). There may be however something else wrong with him - heart, teeth, food absorption etc. More than just his front feet may be affected.

Please weigh him daily at the same time to monitor his food intake; that is very important! Healthy guinea pigs require only weekly weighing.
Top him up with hand feed; but because of his small size very, very carefully (only about 0.2 ml in one go) to prevent food from ending up in the lungs and causing pneumonia. See whether he perks up with more food. Also make sure that he is getting enough water - again making very sure that nothing is going down the wrong way. Can you get hold of some metatone or a similar vitamin/mineral stimulant from your pharmacy to help perk him up?
https://www.medicines.org.uk/emc/medicine/16047
 
Welcome to the forum. There are several issues here, as well as his lack of development. Firstly, is he still living with his mother and sister? If so he needs to be taken out and kept separately as he could make the girls pregnant (as early as 3 weeks old). Secondly, is he in pain? If so he may not be eating enough and this could be why he isn't thriving. It would be worth going to the vet for some pain meds (I'm not sure what drugs they would be in Cyprus). Thirdly, have you tried hand feeding, using a syringe, to try to get his weight up? His quality of life is important and you are the only one who can make a judgement on that, but I would take him back to the vet (maybe a different one?) I'm tagging a few of the other health advisors to see if anyone knows of a member in Cyprus who may be able to help locate a decent vet and if they have any ideas on his condition.

@Pebble
@helen105281
@Wiebke

Thank you for your reply ElwickCavies.
I'm aware of how early a male can get a female pregnant so I separated them a good 3 weeks ago. I can ask the vet for any medication that might be available tomorrow. I don't think that he's in severe pain judging from his behaviour. I have been trying to get his weight up by giving him carrot pieces everyday which he loves. I don't have any prior experience with guinea pigs so I'm trying to understand what's going on.

I hope the members you tagged have useful info!
 
Everyone has already covered what I was going to say. Guinea pigs hide pain so getting him some pain relief is key, as it could well be behind him not eating. I don't know if water therapy may be helpful?
 
Unfrotunately, we can only give you avenues to pursue; we cannot diagnose. But you may find the following threads helpful in finding out more about some things mentioned:

Here is our step-by-step guide for hand feeding; with a younger piggy you will obviously feed a bit less in one go as his mouth is smaller: https://www.theguineapigforum.co.uk/threads/complete-hand-feeding-guide.115359/
https://www.theguineapigforum.co.uk...or-a-balanced-general-guinea-pig-diet.116460/

Water therapy: http://www.oginet.com/pgurney/swimming-guinea-pigs.shtml

Signs of pain: http://www.guinealynx.info/pain.html

Good on you that you have separated! Sadly, so often piggies are not... :(
 
Hello, welcome to the forum. Sorry about your piggy's problems; it can be so frustrating not knowing what they are dealing with-if only the could tell us! I don't have any advice, just wanted to wish you luck. Sending healing vibes and pig kisses from me and my boys. xx
 
Unfrotunately, we can only give you avenues to pursue; we cannot diagnose. But you may find the following threads helpful medication out more about some things mentioned:

Here is our step-by-step guide for hand feeding; with a younger piggy you will obviously feed a bit less in one go as his mouth is smaller: https://www.theguineapigforum.co.uk/threads/complete-hand-feeding-guide.115359/
https://www.theguineapigforum.co.uk...or-a-balanced-general-guinea-pig-diet.116460/

Water therapy: http://www.oginet.com/pgurney/swimming-guinea-pigs.shtml

Signs of pain: http://www.guinealynx.info/pain.html

Good on you that you have separated! Sadly, so often piggies are not... :(

I'm grateful for the help given Wiebcke. Anything to make the little one feel better. I'll be going through the threads you linked and following the advice to get him medication and vitamins if I can find such stuff here. Thank you :)
 
Hello, welcome to the forum. Sorry about your piggy's problems; it can be so frustrating not knowing what they are dealing with-if only the could tell us! I don't have any advice, just wanted to wish you luck. Sending healing vibes and pig kisses from me and my boys. xx

Thank you so much! The pet culture in Cyprus is still very poor and many are misinformed about how a pet should be treated so it can be even more frustrating for the owner.. My family and friends mocked me when I said that Tian needs a doctor because "Who takes a guinea pig to the vet"? Not to mention the first vet I took him to telling me "I don't do HAMSTERS". Sending love back to you and your boys and hopefully Tian will make it through this conundrum and become the strongest boar around haha!
 
Everyone has already covered what I was going to say. Guinea pigs hide pain so getting him some pain relief is key, as it could well be behind him not eating. I don't know if water therapy may be helpful?

Thank you for the advice Helen. I'll try my best to help him any way I can.
 
Awwww I hope you can make him comfy and get him to put some weight on. Do you have any pics of him and your girls?

We all love pig pics.

Angela
 
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