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Urgent Advice Needed For David Hunched Up/eyes Sunken

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Thanks guys I'm really sad here kind of feeling like I know what the vets going to say. He's not come out all morning he's snuggling up to his mate. This is so hard the worst part of owning a pet x x
 
It is not unusual for a piggie who's already in pain/under the weather from one condition to then get an upper respiratory infection. It's par for the course here in the Pebble household where many of the piggies have long-term health issues.
URI's only tend to become dangerous when they spread to the lower respiratory tract (ie lungs) and cause pneumonia. which is what can happen if they are not treated promptly
Getting David some abx now should sort the problem in a couple of days.and prevent it spreading any further,
Good luck
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Hi all been to vets , she checked him over he's put a bit of weight on which is good she has injected him some metacam and iv got to take him back Monday. His nose and sneezing seems to be clear and vet said he sounds clear. Iv put him back in cage straight under hidey again and not eating. I'm not sure whether nature is just taking its course I guess the weekend will unfold. He's going back Monday anyway and we will review were things are up to. If the metacam isn't relieving his pain though then it's just cruel isn't it to even continue x x
 
[QUOTE="Craig David, post: 169325 If the metacam isn't relieving his pain though then it's just cruel isn't it to even continue x x[/QUOTE]

Obviously if you cannot relive David's pain then yes, you may have to make a decision about his quality of life. However I do not think it is necessary just at the moment.
Metacam is just one pain relief medication that can be used (albeit it is the most common).
There is also tramadol and buprecare -
Buprecare was the most effective of the 3 for my dental piggie Valentine. (we tried all 3) Tramadol worked very well in my urinary stone piggies and those with painful ear infections. Both these drugs gave far more effective pain relief at low doses than a high dose of metacam..

I know you are worried but i think you are perhaps expecting too much of David in terms of his current behaviour. Pain relief is not instant and he has just come back from a stressful journey to the vet where he was given an injection which will take some time to work. A poorly stressed pig - even with pain relief - will have good times and less good times. Sometimes they will be active and eating but at other times they will hide and conserve their strength. The main sign of pain to watch out for is the hunched up/spikey fur posture and facing a corner at the back of the cage so I wouldn't worry too much that he has gone into hiding and doesn;t want to eat straight after his return from the vet.

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Thanks pebble I know I'm being quite negative but iv never seen him like this before he's such a tame lovely boy I guess I'm fearing the worst at the min. I'll keep you all posted though x x
 
Hi guys he's not himself but he's out sometimes eating and drinking not hunched up or anything spending lots of time snuggled up to his mate which has never really done we will see how he gets on x x
 
David has had his x Ray unfortunately he has got kidney stones we has been put on 0.5ml tramadol twice a day see how he is over next few days he's not great tho guys so wen its time I'll know x x

Thanks pebble you were right x x
 
I am sorry to hear this - hopefully the tramadol will alleviate his pain and he can enjoy a few more piggie years with you. Following her diganosis, my little Fleure had 6 months extra before she told me she wanted to go the The Bridge.
Thinking of you both
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heres hoping Pebble. He doesn't look to me like the pain relief is doing very much at the moment but we will see. Hes not really eating either. I have a feeling he has had them for a long time hence the long term pain episodes we have had with him over the years.

Thanks for all your help I really appreciate it x x
 
Hi everyone just an update on david

He has gone down to 900g drinking a lot of water each day. He is on 0.5 of tramadol twice a day. Doesn't seem as perky as he originally was when I first put him on it. I was looking at him last night he was hunched in a ball and his eyes were sunken in his head, he doesn't look like the same guinea pig he looks like hes dissapearing before my eyes. I fear it may be time to pts. As you can imagine I am heartbroke but he's just getting worse each day and even though he comes out wheeking for veg I am not sure his quality of life is there anymore x x x thanks for all your support with him over the years x x
 
What strength is your tramadol - if it is the liquid one at 100mg/ml then he is already getting quite a hefty dose.

I think, given also your description of him, then you are right to consider what best to do for him now although I know how heartbreaking it is.

Sending you lots of hugs and wishing David a peaceful journey to The Bridge when his time comes.

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It is very sad, but the fact that you can recognise that David is no longer enjoying life, shows what a wonderful and caring owner you are. All we can do, as pet owners, is ensure our much loved pets have the very best life they can, but when their life is no longer good, we owe it to them to help them to cross over the Rainbow Bridge. Sending hugs x
 
BIG HUGS

I am ever so sorry; you are a very caring parent. It is a very heart-breaking time when you see a piggy going downhill despite all you are doing and you have to seriously think about letting him go. You will know in your guts when it is time. I feel for you!
 
Thanks for your kind words everyone.

Pebble he is on 0.5ml tramadol twice a day the liquid one. I feel like it's not taking the same effect as what it was. It's such a difficult decision to make because he is out eating and drinking loads and veggie time he's wheeking but his body gone so small his little eyes are so far sunken in his head I broke down in tears last night because I thought he had lost an eye it was so far sunken in. I feel like he is in pain despite the tramadol and I think do I make the decision now whilst he has some dignity or do I wait until it's an emergency situation? My sister saw him last night she hasn't seen him a while and she said he doesn't look like the same guinea pig.

I'm just heartbroke I really am. I know his mate teddy is going to really miss him to and he will become depressed so I'm thinking of doing some bonding with him and craig I just hope they can take yo each other .

Thanks again everyone for being there x x x
 
That's about the right dose then for a piggie. You might ask the vet if you can increase it - but given what you describe of his condition I am not hopeful.
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I really feel for you! There is no right or wrong in these kind of situations; any decision of yours will be based on your love for David and his wellbeing as an absolute priority. If in doubt, you should be able to talk with any decent vet and - once you signal that you want him to be honest - support you in making a decision that is based on the outlook and current state as much as your own feelings. It is the scenario that we all dread. :(
 
I know pebble I'm not sure I want to put him through it anymore I think I'm going to take him after this weekend say our good byes to him over the weekend iv seen him go downhill enough now I don't think he's happy his eyes are telling me something.

️thank you so much for everything you really are an amazing person and have helped me so much I appreciate it from the bottom of my heart x x x
 
Thanks wiebke you are right. I will have a chat with my vet I think I know what she will say. I know in my heart though that it's right. It's the most awful decision I have had to make but I don't want him to suffer anymore x x x x
 
I'm glad that I have been of help you and David over the years. I'm very sorry that you are now facing this final step with him.

Having been in the same position as yourself on several occasions now, I have always held to my heart what a dear piggie friend once said to me about the timing of this decsion - they said "better their last day was a good one" ...(not always easy to predict I know!)

Hugs Hun - give hm a big cuddle and then let him go. He's clearly in pain and he's ready to make his journey to The Bridge because his eyes are telling you so

So sorry ...never easy....I'm here if you need me.
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Thanks pebble x x I take comfort in your words x x I said exact same thing to my partner before that id rather lose him whilst he's functioning rather than waiting for an emergency to happen and something terrible happen to him x x I cried so much last night I thought his eye had gone x x
 
Hugs from me too. It is the hardest, yet kindest thing we can do for our little ones.
 
Craig David said:
Rip david. He has gone to the bridge x x
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BIG HUGS

I am ever so sorry for you! What a sad Easter for you. You couldn't have done any more for him, and he certainly knew just how much he was loved!

Please take good care of yourself. Losing an enormous battle like that is leaving you very drained and deflated, physically as well as emotionally. It is going to take some time to get over it and to work through the inevitable grieving process. By caring for David so intensively for so long, you have created a very close bond with your boy, so his passing will affect you even more than otherwise. It is going to take a good while until you get used no longer to do all the little thinking and unthinking things that you were doing for him and with him and to retrain yourself to a daily routine that no longer involves David. That is usually the most painful part, as it jolts you often right out of the blue and brings home your loss all too vividly and all over again.

You are most welcome to post a tribute to David in our Rainbow Bridge section anytime it feels right for you.
 
I'm so sorry.

David was one of those extra special pigs, just think how many sofas he can jump on at the bridge.
 
thank you everyone and thank you for remembering david and his little quirks means a lot.

I am so grief stricken it doesn't feel real, keep feeling like I want to turn back the clock and to of not taken him in. I miss him loads and its only been a day.

I'm having him cremated and going to get his ashes back. I just cant cope with the thought of never seeing him again, I'm so sad x x x x
 
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