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Urgent Diet Info Needed Please!

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Hi I took my piggie to the vet yestersay as he suddenly got cataracts and I learnt that that is often a sign of diabetes. The vet isn't 100% sure from his urine sample today as it didn't show glucose however he said diabetes is often intermittent with pigs. So he has told me to alter his diet and cut certain things out. I have 2 questions-

1) apparently he needs less carbs and of course sugar - so I need some advice with what pellets to feed him and also what vegetables are low in carbohydrates.

and 2) he's going to be pretty much totally blind soon. Anyone got any advice for me? He has started running around less since the cataracts as he has lost sight in one eye and it has started in the other eye. Must be scary turning blind - I want him to be a confident piggie even when he's blind

TIA x

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Hi I took my piggie to the vet yestersay as he suddenly got cataracts and I learnt that that is often a sign of diabetes. The vet isn't 100% sure from his urine sample today as it didn't show glucose however he said diabetes is often intermittent with pigs. So he has told me to alter his diet and cut certain things out. I have 2 questions-

1) apparently he needs less carbs and of course sugar - so I need some advice with what pellets to feed him and also what vegetables are low in carbohydrates.

and 2) he's going to be pretty much totally blind soon. Anyone got any advice for me? He has started running around less since the cataracts as he has lost sight in one eye and it has started in the other eye. Must be scary turning blind - I want him to be a confident piggie even when he's blind

TIA x

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Bless him! Carbs isn't a massive part of a pigs diet so I don't think that part will be an issue. As far as sugar goes, fruit and carrot will be the main things.

When is he back at the vet? They can prick his ear with a really tiny needle and read his blood sugar that way and it's more accurate.

Hope they get some answers soon x
 
Awwww what a lovely fluffy guinea pig. Really beautiful. I would think that leaving his set up pretty much the same will be helpful for him to negotiate his way around. Does he have a cage mate? They often rely on a sighted friend for guidance.
 
Hi I took my piggie to the vet yestersay as he suddenly got cataracts and I learnt that that is often a sign of diabetes. The vet isn't 100% sure from his urine sample today as it didn't show glucose however he said diabetes is often intermittent with pigs. So he has told me to alter his diet and cut certain things out. I have 2 questions-

1) apparently he needs less carbs and of course sugar - so I need some advice with what pellets to feed him and also what vegetables are low in carbohydrates.

and 2) he's going to be pretty much totally blind soon. Anyone got any advice for me? He has started running around less since the cataracts as he has lost sight in one eye and it has started in the other eye. Must be scary turning blind - I want him to be a confident piggie even when he's blind

TIA x

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Hi!

Most cataracts are thankfully not connected to diabetes; you'd normally see increased drinking and weight loss if the diabetes is strong enough to damage the eyes and cause cataracts. Like Adelle said, blood sugars are a much better indicator of diabetes since guinea pig urine is naturally quite high in glucose, which has fooled a number of vets before.
I am tagging in @pig in the city and @Claire W , who have both experience with looking after a diabetic/intermittedly diabetic guinea pig and can help you with the diet side and practical tips. Mild diabetes can usually be brought under control pretty easily by staying off certain foods and any meds that contain sugar or honey (like metacam).
If you cannot get pellets low in carb, feed less normal ones. pellets should only make a very small part of the normal food intake, most should be hay.

There are two much more common varieties of cataracts:
- congenital cataracts: these guinea pigs are born with the genetic disposition to develop them at a young age, usually at 1-2 years old, but at the extreme they can be already born with them.
- old age cataracts: These are pretty common in older guinea pigs (and humans!)

The good news is that eye sight is not the most important sense to a guinea pig and that after a period of transition, they learn to compensate with their other senses. Usually, you won't even know that a guinea pig is only partially sighted/blind.
It is generally easier if the cataracts come on slowly, but sometimes, cataracts or especially nuclear sclerosis (where the whole lens goes opaque instead of the punctual cloudiness of a cataract), can come on very quickly.
My Mererid has just experienced this in late spring, and her sister Morwenna is also developing congenital cataracts; they are both 2 years old and from a background of long term negelct and uncontrolled inbreeding. Both lead their usual lives with the rest of the group and don't require any special consideration.

Make sure that you give more audible clues, but aside from securing very steep ramps (shallow ones are no problem as long as they have a surface that retains scent well, like some old carpet cut-offs), there are no special measures you need to take. You can even switch around the layout, as long as you do not wash the hidey at first. Blind piggies orient themselves mostly by smell and follow scent spoors; you can also find them often sniffing the air; their hearing is also going to get a lot sharper. I have had (and adopted) a number of cataract guinea pigs, and they have lived the same fully enriched life as normal piggies, including roaming time and lawn time.
My Mischief even free roamed the garden under my supervision and learned to return to a moved run over the distance of several yards just by following my vocal cues as long as I stood next to the opening and guided her with a flow of words telling her whether she was going right or not.

You may find these links here comforting:
Mischief's story: Turning a blind eye on mischief - another piggy story
Mali's story of her life with the cataract group. This also contains a video of her following her own scent spoor during zoomies - she enjoyed doing that until she died at ca. 8 years old and despite being somewhat arthritic, as you can see. Popcorn Happily Again With Your Friends, Mali!
If you want to see videos of totally blind and deaf born guinea pigs popcorning and having fun on lawn, have a look through the videos from The Excellent Adventure Sanctuary and their lethal guinea pigs: The Excellent Adventure Sanctuary (for guinea pigs with extra needs) | Facebook
 
Hi. I have had pigs with cataracts that were not diabetic and they managed just fine as long as their environment was familiar.
I had a young piggy who became diabetic, we cut back on pellets and stopped fruit and root vegetables and the diabetes resolved without the need for medication and never recurred. Hope your piggy does well
 
My guinea pig Oakley developed cataracts as she got older and seemed to have no additional problems, she even remained the head-pig. At first I asked the vet to remove the cataracts, but they were quite reluctant, they said guinea pigs don't have that great eyesight anyway and felt she wouldn't benefit enough from surgery to take the risks involved. They didn't even mention diabetes to me as she was otherwise fit & healthy.
 
My Ellen developed diabetes at 6 months old. I noticed her drinking more than her friends and a urine test showed high glucose levels in her urine. She then had a blood test (a small pin prick) which showed high glucose in her blood.
We cut down on pellets (mine have harringtons), root vegetables and fruit. Her diet mainly consists of limited pellets, plenty of hay, celery, pepper (apart from red as its higher in sugar), cucumber, coriander and a little lettuce. Within two weeks her glucose levels were back to normal.

Ellen had a uti a few weeks ago and was prescribed metacam. Me and my vet didn't think about it but the honey content in the metacam caused her glucose to go up again. Thankfully it rectified itself once she came off the metacam.

My Emma has cataracts but she hasn't got diabetes. She enjoys life as much as her two companions and copes very well x
 
Bless him! Carbs isn't a massive part of a pigs diet so I don't think that part will be an issue. As far as sugar goes, fruit and carrot will be the main things.

When is he back at the vet? They can prick his ear with a really tiny needle and read his blood sugar that way and it's more accurate.

Hope they get some answers soon x
He will be back fairly soon - might give it a month so I can see I how he gets on with new diet. X
 
Awwww what a lovely fluffy guinea pig. Really beautiful. I would think that leaving his set up pretty much the same will be helpful for him to negotiate his way around. Does he have a cage mate? They often rely on a sighted friend for guidance.

Thanks so much, I think he's beautiful too. Even more so with his eyes I think they look enchanting! He does live with his brother Solomon. Solomon has been making him jump lately though - if he comes up behind him but I imagine he'll get used to that. Sol has always been the one to follow him though so maybe they'll switch the roles who knows. Here is his brother Sol pushing a little trolley heheimage.webp
 
Hi!

Most cataracts are thankfully not connected to diabetes; you'd normally see increased drinking and weight loss if the diabetes is strong enough to damage the eyes and cause cataracts. Like Adelle said, blood sugars are a much better indicator of diabetes since guinea pig urine is naturally quite high in glucose, which has fooled a number of vets before.
I am tagging in @pig in the city and @Claire W , who have both experience with looking after a diabetic/intermittedly diabetic guinea pig and can help you with the diet side and practical tips. Mild diabetes can usually be bright under control pretty easily by staying off certain foods and any meds that contain sugar or honey (like metacam).
If you cannot get pellets low in carb, feed less normal ones. pellets should only make a very small part of the normal food intake, most should be hay.

There are two much more common varieties of cataracts:
- congenital cataracts: these guinea pigs are born with the genetic disposition to develop them at a young age, usually at 1-2 years old, but at the extreme, they can be already born with them.
- old age cataracts: These are pretty common in older guinea pigs (and humans!)

The good news is that eye sight is not the most important sense to a guinea pig and that after a period of transition, they learn to compensate with their other senses. Usually, you won't even know that a guinea pig is only partially sighted/blind.
It is generally easier if the cataracts come on slowly, but sometimes, cataracts or especielly nuclear sclerosis (where the whole lens goes opaque instead of the punctual cloudiness of a cataract) can come on very quickly.
My Mererid has just experienced this in late spring, and her sister Morwenna is also developing congenital cataracts; they are both 2 years old and from a background of long term negelct and uncontrolled inbreeding.

Make sure that you give more audible clues, but aside from securing very steep ramps (shallow ones are no problem as long as they have a surface that retains scent well, like some old carpet cut-offs), there are no special measures you need to take. You can even switch around the layout, as long as you do not wash them. Blind piggies orient themselves mostly by smell and follow scent spoors; you can also find them often sniffing the air; their hearing is also going to get a lot sharper. I have had (and adopted) a number of cataract guinea pigs, and they have lived the same fully enriched life as normal piggies, including roaming time and lawn time.
My Mischief even free roamed the garden under my supervision and learned to return to a moved run over the distance of several yards just by following my vocal cues as long as I stood next to the opening and guided her with a flow of words telling her whether she was going right or not.

You may find these links here comforting:
Mischief's story: Turning a blind eye on mischief - another piggy story
Mali's story of her life with the cataract group. This also contains a video of her following her own scent spoor during zoomies - she enjoyed doing that until she died at ca. 8 years old and despite being somewhat arthritic, as you can see. Popcorn Happily Again With Your Friends, Mali!
If you want to see videos of totally blind and deaf born guinea pigs popcorning and having fun on lawn, have a look through the videos from The Excellent Adventure Sanctuary and their lethal guinea pigs: The Excellent Adventure Sanctuary (for guinea pigs with extra needs) | Facebook
I can not thank you enough for this comment. Thank you so much. You've made me feel a lot better. I will check out the links very soon. Thanks again x

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Hi. I have had pigs with cataracts that were not diabetic and they managed just fine as long as their environment was familiar.
I had a young piggy who became diabetic, we cut back on pellets and stopped fruit and root vegetables and the diabetes resolved without the need for medication and never recurred. Hope your piggy does well
Very comforting. Thank you
 
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