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Urgent, neglected rescue pig what does a neutered boy look like? wheres the scars?

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I brought home a rescue piggy on Friday and took him out for a once over now hes been here for two days. Coming from a rescue I am absolutly gobsmacked to find two cuts on each of his testicals. Both really deep, one is got a scabby calus type thing growing out it. Could it be hes been neutered. I'm really concerned, what a poor little piggy. The open one smelled really bad too. I gently wiped it with boiling water( cooled down obviously) and it looked quite sore. I'm totally shocked that a rescue could be so neglectful 8....
I'm goigng to phone the rescue at work tomorrow and thankfully I'm off on Wedneesday to tak poor piggy to the vet. I hope they are full of apologies.

Arghhhhh so annoyed and upset.8...
 
Is it possible to get a pic - only as long as it isn't going to distress him. Perhaps if you have a glass table so you can take a pic without having to lift him up.

Suzy x
 
oh the poor wee man! I have a neutered boar and there is no signs to show that he has been neutered now, it all healed very very cleanly luckily. I think you have the right idea in mind in getting him to the vets to be checked over, poor boy must be in some discomfort
 
sounds like he may have been neutered at the rescue and he may have taken out the stitches, chewing on them and then the wounds have become infected:(


The lump maybe a seroma, (collection of fluid)
Let us know what the vet says.
 
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Hope this helps, its not terribly clear I know.
 
They do look like castration wounds to me!

They don't look great, but they aren't the worst I've seen, although he really should see a competant vet! I don't like the look of the left wound. While the right wound looks sore, it looks pretty clean. The left one looks quite crusty.

Is he eating/drinking weeing/pooing ok?
 
In my experience that is where the stitches would be if a boar had been neutered.

You need to ask the rescue if he has been done!
 
Well it certainly looks like neutering scars, how much history do you have on him? A swift vet check up it a very good idea. He won't be the first male to be rehomed while still healing from the surgery - I don't agree with that as problems can occur for a number of weeks post op.

Keep on with the cleaning with cooled saline solution (1 pint + 1 teaspoon of salt) until your appt.

Suzy x
 
He seems really slim to me although he has been eating and pooing but not hugely, well compared to what id expect a piggy to eat. They are deep incision type wounds not raggedy, which made me suspect.
What should I do until I get him to the vet on Wednesday? Shall I just wipe with luke warm water like I have been? Id be scared to do anything else
I cant believe they never mentioned this to me, or worse didnt even know :o.
Definately going to nurse him back to health. Mum thinks I shld take him back to sed rescue and make them deal with it, but I couldnt do that to him given he was so neglected there 8....
 
This is what I dont understand they said he been in the rescue since March!!So surely they had to have done it, or the wounds are really old!Gosh if theyd just said I would have taken him to the vet sooner. Plus Harry would be better off with a wife than my grumpy little Theo, theyve already fought once. But poor Harry must be feeling rotten no wonder he got fed up of Theo and nipped him.
What a disaster, getting a nice new friend for lonely pig has turned into a complete nightmare and I'm so bogged down at work, just didnt expect this.
 
I'm wondering if this was a proper rescue and not one of these people that just takes in some animals and calls themselves a rescue? I'm sure no reputable rescue would rehome an animal knowingly in this state.
Can't offer any advice on treatment but I do hope his wounds heal soon.
 
The wounds are in the same place as my Tuftys neuter wounds. If it smells bad, ie like a septic wound then there is likely to be infection present. He ought to see a vet.
It would be an idea to ring the rescue first thing and ask them about it and ask them which vet they used. Then ask them if they are going to take him to the vet or to let you take him on thier account. The follow up visit may be free to clear up the infection depending on the vet. Were you informed that he had been neutered? I would not like to think that a rescue would allow a piggy out in an unwell condition. Please be calm and sensible when talking to the rescue and everything should go smoothly.
Poor lad, hope he recovers soon. If he is definately neutered then in a few weeks he will be able to live with girls if you want.
 
Use warm saline solution - if any of the wounds are open you can use a syringe (no needle attached) to squirt the solution in the wound to help flush any infection out. Until you get antibioics there is little else you can do at home except keep the wounds clean.

If it is at all possible please try to get him to a vet before Wed, the bad smell is likely to be infection.

Suzy x
 
hazeyg said:
He seems really slim to me although he has been eating and pooing but not hugely, well compared to what id expect a piggy to eat. They are deep incision type wounds not raggedy, which made me suspect.
What should I do until I get him to the vet on Wednesday? Shall I just wipe with luke warm water like I have been? Id be scared to do anything else
I cant believe they never mentioned this to me, or worse didnt even know :o.
Definately going to nurse him back to health. Mum thinks I shld take him back to sed rescue and make them deal with it, but I couldnt do that to him given he was so neglected there 8....
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hazeyg said:
This is what I dont understand they said he been in the rescue since March!!So surely they had to have done it, or the wounds are really old!Gosh if theyd just said I would have taken him to the vet sooner. Plus Harry would be better off with a wife than my grumpy little Theo, theyve already fought once. But poor Harry must be feeling rotten no wonder he got fed up of Theo and nipped him.
What a disaster, getting a nice new friend for lonely pig has turned into a complete nightmare and I'm so bogged down at work, just didnt expect this.
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It's taken me so long to write my earlier post that I missed your earlier inbetween posts therefore answering most of my questions, must learn to touchtype.
I'm not sure if that sentance made any sense, Zebedee time, night night.
 
Your right I'll just need to stay calm and get the wee fella sorted out and once he's well, if he can't get on with my pig then I'll take him to a reputable rescue for rehoming with girls. Watch this space for the rescues response. They open at 10am.......I bet they wouldn't have even know. :(.
Thanks for all the brilliant advice, helped lift a weight of my shoulders :).
Wound had a little white discharge and a bit smelly and unfortunatly I just can't get time off work today. I'll take him in tom asap though. He seems bright and was popcorning about the cage this morning, wee fellas coming out his shell :)
 
That looks very much like castration wounds and I agree with the others that he needs a vet visit. There is likely to be an infection and he will more than likely need some antibiotics. Keep it clean until you see the vet. Can you find out from the rescue when he was neutered? A reputable rescue will be willing to help and answer any questions you have and may also help with the vet bill, as he was rehomed in that condition. (It depends I suppose on their rehoming policy though).
 
Just wanted to send some healing vibes and wish him well at his vets trip, try and keep him on towels or fleece while the wounds are like that, poor little fella, almost looks like a diy job, so long as he is eating and drinking and the wound is clean, he should be ok till the vet trip. Good luck, x
 
Oh the poor little mite :( Thank goodness you noticed and have got good advice :...
When I had my two boars neutered, the vet was totally amazing and used glue rather than stitches so thought this was a common practise for this procedure :{ Their post op care is relatively common sense so maybe lack of knowledge is a contributary factor, I know many can develop infections etc. with the greatest of preventative care but cannot believe this has gone unnoticed before you adopted him. All the piggies I have adopted have been vet checked prior rehoming so am suspecting BellasMummy is right ?/
Hope little fella is ok and you can get some answers from the rescue involved grrrr
Please keep us updated and send lots of healing vibes and gentle hugs to you and Harry x>>
 
Hello,

Well I phoned the rescue and she was actually OK. Although I still think what happened was bad practise.
Harry was neutered 3-4 weeks ago now and they said that he was signed off by the vet as having his wounds healed. They said that the memebr of staff in on Saturday had just returned from a long break and harry hadnt been neutered then. However she did say she was very unhappy that Harry left without hvaing a full inspection and said she will be dealing with this. However reason for this happening was their database is unavailable as a rabbit chewed the wire.........which for a rescue seems irresponsible.
The upshot is Harry is going back to the rescue tonight to be taken to an emergeny vet and nursed whilst his wounds cleaned and hes put on some Baytril. She did sound genuinly concerned for him and said she will wait until out of hours until I can get him over there. She said shes spent quite a lot of time with him in the last few weeks and will look afetr him while he recovers and needs to go to and from the vets.

I think perhaps this may be the route of the bust up between him and Theo as the wee soul probably wasnt feeling overly tolerant of my little mischeavious bossy boots.

Do you think I can start a whol new set of introductions once he comes back?
 
I hope she does deal with this in a better manner than her adoptions :o
Lack of communication can be a real downfall - I make it my business in the workplace to know everything that's going on (not the gossip etc. :))) so there is nothing overlooked.
Lots of love to Harry xx>>> and would think you may have to reintroduce from start but not experiencing this, cannot be 100% sure but out of caution, would follow the routine when he's home (hope it's very soon)
 
Hope all goes ok for Harry!

Glad to read that you are now clear that he was neutered so that you know what is going on.

Obviously with neutered boars you can't feel any testicles but if there is any swelling then things can get confusing. Hopefully now with the Baytril things will improve for Harry.

Keep us posted.
 
This makes me cross as a rescue. I would know the date when the piggie was neutered, and each piggie gets checked over on the day they are adopted.

Sounds abcessy to me if white stuff is coming out. Glad the rescue are taking him back but poor piggie. Also, any good rescue will bond their pigs with yours.
 
i am glad you are going to keep him and deal with his nasty wounds.
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hazeyg said:
He seems really slim to me although he has been eating and pooing but not hugely, well compared to what id expect a piggy to eat. They are deep incision type wounds not raggedy, which made me suspect.
What should I do until I get him to the vet on Wednesday? Shall I just wipe with luke warm water like I have been? Id be scared to do anything else
I cant believe they never mentioned this to me, or worse didnt even know :o.
Definately going to nurse him back to health. Mum thinks I shld take him back to sed rescue and make them deal with it, but I couldnt do that to him given he was so neglected there 8....
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CrawleyGuineaPigRescue said:
This makes me cross as a rescue. I would know the date when the piggie was neutered, and each piggie gets checked over on the day they are adopted.

Sounds abcessy to me if white stuff is coming out. Glad the rescue are taking him back but poor piggie. Also, any good rescue will bond their pigs with yours.
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i'm also surprised he wasn't checked over when leaving, or bonded first - esp being a boar. Plus as he's been through a castration I personally would have paired him with a female, otherwise whats the point of putting him through the op?
 
Lisajazz said:
i'm also surprised he wasn't checked over when leaving, or bonded first - esp being a boar. Plus as he's been through a castration I personally would have paired him with a female, otherwise whats the point of putting him through the op?
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Agree Lisajazz. I keep our neutered boys here a full 6 weeks - on fleece and hay in hay racks. I check their 'bits' daily and have several vet checks too.
And they are 100% fit when leaving here.

I have overseen bonding on all my fosterers (apart from forum member Nutmeg- who used to foster and bond herself with plenty of experience)

Something has obviously been overlooked with this little guy at this rescue - I'm quite shocked actually!

I just hope the little fella is OK and I'm sorry for the stress you have been through.
 
Salt n Peppers mum said:
Agree Lisajazz. I keep our neutered boys here a full 6 weeks - on fleece and hay in hay racks. I check their 'bits' daily and have several vet checks too.
And they are 100% fit when leaving here.

I have overseen bonding on all my fosterers (apart from forum member Nutmeg- who used to foster and bond herself with plenty of experience)

Something has obviously been overlooked with this little guy at this rescue - I'm quite shocked actually!

I just hope the little fella is OK and I'm sorry for the stress you have been through.
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Something doesn't quite add up does it?!

The main reason to neuter a boar is to put it with a sow - in which case, what's the point in letting them go 3-4 weeks after a castration op when they're still fertile? mallethead
 
Neutering neither changes boar behaviour nor enhances the chances of a boar bond surviving. Somebody really has not done their homework here!

I REALLY hope that the baytril will do the trick and that the rescue's vet is up to dealing with bad abscesses (which can appear weeks and months after a neutering op). If baytril is not strong enough, zithromax can save lives in these cases. Simon Maddock is the vet who has researched it. It has saved my Hywel's life when he came down with post op neutering complications earlier this year. Please impress the need to weigh daily and if necessary hand feed.
http://www.inorthamptonshire.co.uk/profile/457491/Northampton/Cat-and-Rabbit-Care-Clinic/

I am so sorry for you and the little boy that you got caught out in what seems to be a catalogue of basic errors from a rescue that is not exactly piggy savvy.

You can try introductions neutral ground again, but chances are that if your boars didn't get on well first time round, they won't do so second time round. Piggies can be very fickle about who they get on with.

Just have a look at Suzygpr's boar dating thread; it will give you an idea what proper bonding is like and how good your own chances are.
http://www.theguineapigforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=59233
 
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