very sad goodbye .. real shame :-(

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Lil-Ninnibig

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Further to my previous posts yesterday afternoon ditto ans my new baby skitts well more a hormonal teenager than baby to be fair had a huge fight :-( it was awful ans i never want to experience it again, ditto was happily munching away on a slice of cucumber, skitts decided he wanted the cucumber even though they had veg scattered around the cage..he wanted dittos cucumber... He loudly chattered his teeth at ditto and pushed him into the corner of the cage, ditto retaliated by teeth chattering and rumbling at skitts so skitts launched himself at ditto :0") my OH was quick off the mark and grabbed ditto and put him on the sofa leaving skitt in the cage with a torn ear and ditto on the sofa with a cut to the nose and like under his armpit area :(z i am absolutly devastated about this. I was just going to get another cage and keep the boys seperate but we dont really have the room and my OH askes me to return skitt to the lady i bought him off. After calling the lady to explain she agreed it be best that skitt was returned to her and she would deal with hia vet treatment if required. I am so upset about this, i honestly thought they had begun to settle down abit. I could cope with the odd tiff and rumbling etc but i couldnt cope with skitt attacking ditto so viciously, if hea doing this now at 12 weeks imagine the damage to ditto when he was a fully grown mature boar. The lady offered me the rex baby to try but i declined her offer i think ditto is alot happier now hes alone again hes squeking for his vegetables again and loving cuddles with me.. I got really attached to skitt so feel very down in the dumps today. But my main priority had to be dittos safety and health and so i feel i made the appropriate decision. I hope you all agree. Sz
 
Oh this must be so devastating for you!

I understand what you are going through :(

I really do recommened that you wait until you can go to a Piggy Bank UK recommended rescue as they will offer proper Boar Dating - You leave your piggy there for a few days and they will be monitored at all times by the person who is fully knowledgeable on boar dating.

I waited until I could go to a Piggy Bank rescue :) I left my piggy for just over a week and he came home with his friend.

I'll just go find the link for you...

I would leave Ditto to relax for a few days and you could dab his cuts with some salt water.

EDIT: Here is a link to the Piggy Bank rescue support network map of recommendable rescues in Britain; the vast majority of which offer Boar Dating https://maps.google.co.uk/maps/ms?ms...4257d8eb&msa=0
 
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awww no! I'm sorry it didn't work out, sometimes you just don't know and you DO have to suck it and see, to work out if its normal dominance or not. Sadly it was bullying in the end with your baby :(
Hope Ditto is ok, maybe if you check out the list of rescues on here we can help you find one that will allow for more thorough dating, when you're ready? All boars can have a friend, its just about getting the right personalities :)
 
I no i am so upset. I really would have liked to of kept skitt as he was just starting to trust me and feel like guilty for confusing skitt by taking him out of his home to come to mine then taking him back again.. But i had to do what was right for my original piggy so skitt was the one who had to go.. I dont think I'm going to bother with boar dating now it has really put me off the idea, the shavings were covered in blood it was awful.. They really can do alot of damage cant they? And the noises they made .. God i never want to hear them again. :0 ditto seems so much more happier and has more like energy now skitt has been returned to the lady, hes more himself. From this experience i think ditto is alot happier living alone. He gets alot of attention from me and my OH and my mum when she visits daily. What a terrible experience. My next pigs will definalty be sows.
 
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I no i am so upset. I really would have liked to of kept skitt as he was just starting to trust me and feel like guilty for confusing skitt by taking him out of his home to come to mine then taking him back again.. But i had to do what was right for my original piggy so skitt was the one who had to go.. I dont think I'm going to bother with boar dating now it has really put me off the idea, the shavings were covered in blood it was awful.. They really can do alot of damage cant they? And the noises they made .. God i never want to hear them again. :0 ditto seems so much more happier and has more like energy now skitt has been returned to the lady, hes more himself. From this experience i think ditto is alot happier living alone. He gets alot of attention from me and my OH and my mum when she visits daily. What a terrible experience. My next pigs will definalty be sows.
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Honestly, don't let this put you off the idea of boar dating. The people who carry out the boar dating know exactly what is considered normal for dominance and they're able to intervene at the point where blood would probably end up being drawn in normal circumstances. They specialise in this sort of thing and would really do a good job with your ditto!

It's still definitely worth thinking about boar dating, they have so much success with piggys, there really is a husboar out there for every pig! It's literally about trying and trying until they find that match. Even if Ditto seems happy alone, just wait until he has a little friend and he'll show you what happy really means :)

Sorry the new baby didn't work out though :( I expect you're pretty shaken up by the whole ordeal :( maybe you can go and visit baby Skitt while he's still with the breeder if you miss him?

:)
 
I'm sorry it didn't work out with them but don't give up on the idea of boar dating. Ditto may be happier right now as he doen't have to deal with Skitt being aggressive but in the long term he'd be better off being given the chance to be properly bonded with a friendly boar of his choosing as would happen at a rescue. You can't give him attention 24 hours a day and you can't communicate with him in they way another pig would.
 
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Yes definitely dont let this put you off Boar Dating - Be assured, if you take them to a rescue for dating as mentioned by CharlieH - They will intervene before blood is drawn.

It may take a while to find the ideal husboar! But as mentioned there really is a match for everyone you just need to find them!

Piggys really do thrive on other piggys for company - I know what has happened is distressing but dont give up hope for a friend for Ditto. It may take a while to find the ideal or he may match the first time! But it's always worth it in the end.
 
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How about before totally giving up on the idea of boar dating you wait a couple weeks until you have calmed down and then revisit the idea of boar dating with a piggy bank approved rescue. I understand right now you are very upset and probably a little scared of the idea of boar dating ditto after he has been bullied. It's ok if he is alone for a little while while you and he both calm down and recover.
So sorry it didn't work out for you.
 
I am sorry that things didn't work out with Ditto and the baby but please do not be put off. Like others have said, why not wait a few weeks and see how you feel then? In the long term, Ditto will be happier with a friend. Skitz just wasn't the one for him.

I know it is a shock amnd horrible to watch, I witnessed a fall out between one of my sows and a boar I was trying to bond with the group but it went wrong and I sadly had to return him.

Please do not be put off by boars in general. I noticed you said you would have sows next time but believe me, sows can be just as bad as boars.

It was neither Ditto or Skitz fault that things didn't work out, they just didn't click. It would be unfair to assume all boars are difficult to bond because of it.
 
I am very sorry about your experience. Doing the right thing for the little one doesn't make it any easier.

Please consider full boar dating at a rescue even though it is much more of an effort! The bonding will be done by the rescue lady at the rescue (so no more heartbreak for you) and Ditto will have the opportunity to choose from a range of candidates, so if one is not ideal, another will be.

Look at Suzy's blog - many boars that she has bonded went through more than one potential mate before they finally settled down very happily. I haven't heard that one of her bonded boars has had a fall out yet. Suzy puts her newly bonded stable boars under a stress test in a smaller cage than they usually have before they are allowed home together to make sure that they can cope with the travel and a the change of surroundings.

Your experience with a baby boar is not unique, so don't feel like a failure - sometimes a fall out happens 2-3 weeks into the relationship when the dominance balance between the two boys just doesn't work out.
 
Thankyou everyone . I think I'm going to wait a few weeks until i try boar dating ditto again.. Ive asked the lady to keep intouch with me regarding skitt's rehoming and to she is going to let me no if she gets any neutered females in to try with ditto as there shouldnt be so much dominant behavior from a sow apparently. I just want ditto to be happy. Il see how i feel in a few weeks regarding boar dating again as i have alot on my plate at the minute, a very ill grandad, money worrys and starting my new job on 3rd sept so once all that is dealt with i can give ditto and boar dating my full attention. Thanks again
 
I'm gutted for you. Hope your ok? I know you feel bad because you took Skitt back but at least now Skitt will have the chance to find the right mate for him. As for poor Ditto, take your time with him. In an ideal world it would be fabulous if he had a playmate of course it would, but sometimes things just dont work out that way. As i said yesterday even though my 3 boys are separated, they still chatter away together and are happy piggies, it's me that feel's bad because they are on their own. Like i said, take your time, lavish Ditto with your time and love and see how you feel in a few months time. Remember whatever you decide to do for Ditto, you will have lots of support for everyone here. Nicola x
 
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Thankyou everyone . I think I'm going to wait a few weeks until i try boar dating ditto again.. Ive asked the lady to keep intouch with me regarding skitt's rehoming and to she is going to let me no if she gets any neutered females in to try with ditto as there shouldnt be so much dominant behavior from a sow apparently. I just want ditto to be happy. Il see how i feel in a few weeks regarding boar dating again as i have alot on my plate at the minute, a very ill grandad, money worrys and starting my new job on 3rd sept so once all that is dealt with i can give ditto and boar dating my full attention. Thanks again
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If Ditto is happy for now then waiting a few weeks or a month wont make much difference.

re the bolded bit.

i have a neutered boy, i wanted him to live with phoebe, phoebe however hated him from the start. so boy girls are not always perfect either :) just to warn you.


good luck and *hugs*
 
I agree with Laura. When trying to introduce a boar to my girls, my Eleanor (previously mentioned earlier in the thread) was having none of it. I have never seen such vicious behaviour! So sow / boar relationships don't always work out either.

At the end of the day, it is down to the individual pig and their personality.
 
I think human relataionships can be just as bad but we understand and can talk, we dont always understand piggy behaviour and they definately cant come up to us and say no i dont like that pig. :))
 
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