When to separate? *updated*
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Re: When to separate?
It's hard to say exactly, but I think that the fact that you are asking probably means that you recognise that they aren't happy together.
While I've seen a lot of boars live very peacefully, I've seen a lot kept together, that in my opinion, really tolerated each other more than anything else. And, that's not really much of a life for them....imagine being stuck in a marriage like that...no thank you!
Again, in my opinion, better for all concerned to separate them sooner rather than later if they are squabbling, chasing, over zealous in mounting behaviour, teeth chatterring etc etc.
As I've said before, I've seen some really nasty injuries inflicted when boars begin to fight and a few handed into rescue with nasty abscesses frrom fighting with other boars.
Just my thoughts.
Barbara
It's hard to say exactly, but I think that the fact that you are asking probably means that you recognise that they aren't happy together.
While I've seen a lot of boars live very peacefully, I've seen a lot kept together, that in my opinion, really tolerated each other more than anything else. And, that's not really much of a life for them....imagine being stuck in a marriage like that...no thank you!
Again, in my opinion, better for all concerned to separate them sooner rather than later if they are squabbling, chasing, over zealous in mounting behaviour, teeth chatterring etc etc.
As I've said before, I've seen some really nasty injuries inflicted when boars begin to fight and a few handed into rescue with nasty abscesses frrom fighting with other boars.
Just my thoughts.
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Aww you poor love. If nothing is working, then the sooner the better for the split
Aww you poor love. If nothing is working, then the sooner the better for the split
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Its a hard one what threw it for me was when they literally went for each other and were rolling and hissing at each so i had no choice but to seperate them, When i clean them out they seem to be ok together for about 15 mins and then they get tired of each other
When i took Sammy out and settled him down he was sqeaking like youve never heard before i noticed what i thought were scratches and bite marks they healed and that was it.
Only you can really decide when enoughs enough and if things are bad then just do it, ive heard some say they seperated them for 24 hrs and they settled back together but mine i wouldnt dare put back together on a permanent basis !
Its a hard one what threw it for me was when they literally went for each other and were rolling and hissing at each so i had no choice but to seperate them, When i clean them out they seem to be ok together for about 15 mins and then they get tired of each other
When i took Sammy out and settled him down he was sqeaking like youve never heard before i noticed what i thought were scratches and bite marks they healed and that was it.
Only you can really decide when enoughs enough and if things are bad then just do it, ive heard some say they seperated them for 24 hrs and they settled back together but mine i wouldnt dare put back together on a permanent basis !
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If you see any sort of injury on either of them you MUST separate them. And if they clearly don't like eachother doing it sooner rather than later is probably best.
If you see any sort of injury on either of them you MUST separate them. And if they clearly don't like eachother doing it sooner rather than later is probably best.
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I've had to split my boys in the last few days. They had also been living together fairly amicably but the other day I noticed bite marks on one of them and they were 'going for each other' quite badly. I seperated them overnight and then tried putting them back together but they just went for each other again. I bought a new hutch yesterday and now they are living next to each other and they both seem happier.
I think if you are thinking about seperating them you know something isn't right. I didn't like seperating mine-I wanted them to live together but you have to do what's best for the piggies. I would never have forgiven myself if I thought there was a problem and left it to find bloodshed, or worse, one day.
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I've had to split my boys in the last few days. They had also been living together fairly amicably but the other day I noticed bite marks on one of them and they were 'going for each other' quite badly. I seperated them overnight and then tried putting them back together but they just went for each other again. I bought a new hutch yesterday and now they are living next to each other and they both seem happier.
I think if you are thinking about seperating them you know something isn't right. I didn't like seperating mine-I wanted them to live together but you have to do what's best for the piggies. I would never have forgiven myself if I thought there was a problem and left it to find bloodshed, or worse, one day.
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Bev if they've been fine up to now then one of them is obviously becoming more dominant and lording it over the other one, I would watch for actual fighting and see if they are, if so then make a break but keep them together in run time and see what happens if you can keep them in next door runs so they can still see each other that would help,
its quite unusual in my case to be together that long for all of a sudden to change, and could be a blip, but obvioulsy you cannot let them get injured , I would take time to watch them and see who is causing the problems out of the two of them,
Bev if they've been fine up to now then one of them is obviously becoming more dominant and lording it over the other one, I would watch for actual fighting and see if they are, if so then make a break but keep them together in run time and see what happens if you can keep them in next door runs so they can still see each other that would help,
its quite unusual in my case to be together that long for all of a sudden to change, and could be a blip, but obvioulsy you cannot let them get injured , I would take time to watch them and see who is causing the problems out of the two of them,
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There's always been a small amount of animosity between then but nothing worrying, but lately things have got worse and i'm hearing rumblestrutting and teeth chattering constantly, and then you hear the chase around the cage.
The other day I noticed Chester had a little nick on the end of his nose then yesterday I saw a bigger one next to his nostril. And during floor time last night they ended up in a locked together, rolling around the floor situation then Chester somehow did this mid air somersault, so I waded in armed with a blanket and scooped up Chester and gave them floor time separately, while I divided the cage with some grids.
Once both back in the cage they carried on rumbling at the bars with Piggie trying his hardest to knock down the divide, it seems to be Piggie that is always going toward Chester, then Chester chatters his teeth and they both rumble, and during floor time Piggie's always mounting Chester.
Am calling the vets in the morning to see about neutering, then try them a girl each, and am going out soon to get another cage because at the moment they only have 2 ft each now the divide is in.
There's always been a small amount of animosity between then but nothing worrying, but lately things have got worse and i'm hearing rumblestrutting and teeth chattering constantly, and then you hear the chase around the cage.
The other day I noticed Chester had a little nick on the end of his nose then yesterday I saw a bigger one next to his nostril. And during floor time last night they ended up in a locked together, rolling around the floor situation then Chester somehow did this mid air somersault, so I waded in armed with a blanket and scooped up Chester and gave them floor time separately, while I divided the cage with some grids.
Once both back in the cage they carried on rumbling at the bars with Piggie trying his hardest to knock down the divide, it seems to be Piggie that is always going toward Chester, then Chester chatters his teeth and they both rumble, and during floor time Piggie's always mounting Chester.
Am calling the vets in the morning to see about neutering, then try them a girl each, and am going out soon to get another cage because at the moment they only have 2 ft each now the divide is in.
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I personally think you are doing the right thing
Barbara
I personally think you are doing the right thing
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me too, sounds quite bad and as if nothing will repair their freindship
me too, sounds quite bad and as if nothing will repair their freindship
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Doing the right thing lovey Silly boys
Doing the right thing lovey
Silly boys
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minky
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This is exactly what happened with y boys i was so upset when i had to seperate them as it meant they didnt have as much room as i anticipated. I think your right to do what your doing its not worth it like u i shall be getting them neutered as soon as i can get some money together for them i want them to live happy lives as much as possible
This is exactly what happened with y boys i was so upset when i had to seperate them as it meant they didnt have as much room as i anticipated. I think your right to do what your doing its not worth it like u i shall be getting them neutered as soon as i can get some money together for them i want them to live happy lives as much as possible
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*update*
I went out today and bought a new cage, just got home and called the vets and they're going in tomorrow :o still, I suppose quick is good because now I don't have much time to worry and panic ;D
So will drop them off in the morning between 8 and 10 then go out and stock up on towels for them.
Then in 2 - 3 weeks I can find a couple of girlies
Woohoo!
*update*
I went out today and bought a new cage, just got home and called the vets and they're going in tomorrow :o still, I suppose quick is good because now I don't have much time to worry and panic ;D
So will drop them off in the morning between 8 and 10 then go out and stock up on towels for them.
Then in 2 - 3 weeks I can find a couple of girlies
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Awww, it'll be ok. Big hugs. :-*
You'll be getting more! Yay ;D
You'll be getting more! Yay ;D
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ahhh bless, l getting more piggys cant be bad , hope their ops go ok
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Thats quick !
Wish i could afford it that quick really pleased for you and i hope everything goes well !
Let us know how things go ? Are your boys kept inside of outside ?
Wish i could afford it that quick really pleased for you and i hope everything goes well !
Let us know how things go ? Are your boys kept inside of outside ?
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bev said:
Gosh, yes! :o
Yes they are very reasonable, they are the most advanced vet round here in terms of equipment and services offered, they even do alternative therapys and hydrotherapy and have state of the art machines, but they are also the cheapest... work that one out LOL ;D
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Blooming heck! I'll be sure to pop in to yours when I'm taking the piggies 
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minky
well i was quoted £40 per pig at what is known as our veternary hospital hence my reluctance to part with that much all in one go
Thats deffo a good price !
Thats deffo a good price !
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minky
Sars1359 said:our vets do the op for £35 but the RSPCA give out vouchers for £15 to help even if youre at work etc,so really it costs "20 which is good ( thats when it all works out ok:'()
Do you know how to get the vouchers though ?
yup just ring them up and say youre having a g-pig neutered,i told them I was having two done and they sent me two vouchers,i dunno if theres a limit but they said if i needed more i was to ring again whenever i need them
theyre really sweet about it too,but theres a two month time limit on each voucher
theyre really sweet about it too,but theres a two month time limit on each voucher
Well... they went in this morning at 9.30, and I have to call between 2.30 and 3.30 to see how they are, am trying to keep busy so I don't worry too much :-\
I went through the kerfuffle of nail cutting last night so as they'd look nice and smart, got to the vets and was asked would you like a complimentary nail clipping? :o :
I went through the kerfuffle of nail cutting last night so as they'd look nice and smart, got to the vets and was asked would you like a complimentary nail clipping? :o :
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minky
Sars1359 said:our vets do the op for £35 but the RSPCA give out vouchers for £15 to help even if youre at work etc,so really it costs "20 which is good ( thats when it all works out ok
Well i rang the rspca and was told they would only send the vouchers if i was claiming benefits :-\!
Ive just rang another vets and they charge £35 which is ok another one wanted £70 i nearly yelled wtf !
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bev said:Well... they went in this morning at 9.30, and I have to call between 2.30 and 3.30 to see how they are, am trying to keep busy so I don't worry too much :-\
I went through the kerfuffle of nail cutting last night so as they'd look nice and smart, got to the vets and was asked would you like a complimentary nail clipping? :o :
Haha typical! I hope they get on ok-not too long to go now till you can find out if they are ok
minky said:Sars1359 said:our vets do the op for £35 but the RSPCA give out vouchers for £15 to help even if youre at work etc,so really it costs "20 which is good ( thats when it all works out ok
Well i rang the rspca and was told they would only send the vouchers if i was claiming benefits :-\!
Ive just rang another vets and they charge £35 which is ok another one wanted £70 i nearly yelled wtf !
wtf?
thats wrong!
none of us in our house claim benefits and we just rang the rspca up and they asked how many we needed and they sent them :o :o
and £70??
what the hell are they trying to do by charging that :o >
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