Where do I go from here ?

Potterpig

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Hi there. I apologise in advance... This is a long one. I need some genuine advice and support. Let me start from the beginning.

Back in Feb 2019 I rescued 2 boars aged 10 months. Two months later we rescued two further boars aged 5 months (wasn't planned but we were more than happy to), they were going to live as two pairs. Two weeks after we got the second pair, one of those boars got a uri. I fought day and night for about 5 days before he declined, fitted, and very traumatically had to be rushed to the vet and pts. I was absolutely devastated and traumatised. After around a week his cage mate wasn't coping very well, so we took him to a rescue and he picked himself a young boar and he was blissfully happy. I breathed a sigh of relief.

The same weekend we brought now pig no5 home I found a huge lump on one of the first pigs. By huge I mean like a golf ball in his neck. Back to the vet again who diagnosed an abscess. We had a long six weeks of daily vet trips for flushing, before it was clear he needed the surgery. He had the surgery, all the lymph nodes removed and eventually healed up nicely. By this point I'd owned pigs around 3.5 months and had spent around £650 at the vets.

All was fine for a year. No further vet care needed, everyone was happy, healthy and doted on. Then Wednesday night having spent all day physically with the pigs (I genuinely enjoy their company) I went to watch a TV programme and return to find my favourite pig (one of the first set but not the abscess pig) almost collapsed. I rushed him to the emergency vet who cared for him all night (suspected bloat) and I was then to collect him and take him to my usual vet at 7.30am. By 2pm the vet had said we weren't winning this and she felt that continuing was futile. Heartbroken we collected his companion from the vet alone (he went for moral support). £332 down again. His companion again very very withdrawn.

I feel so dispondent. I adore my pigs. Absolutely adore them. They're kept indoors in 5x2 c&c cages, fleece liners, natures own hay. If they go in the garden (very seldom) I sit next to the run til they come in. I just feel like I can't keep picking myself up. They seem so fragile. In a year I've spent £1000 ish in vet fees. I have a cat who hasn't cost me that in 8 years. This isn't about the money. It's about almost being fearful of owning them. I feel useless, like I can't handle this. Please don't lecture me or make comments about how this is what piggy ownership looks like. It'll just make me feel worse. Id love some advice about my now single piggy, he is very withdrawn and although I know he will likely rally in a few days I need to think longterm how to handle this. I thought if I neutered him and he had a girl all would be fine because if someone passed then I could mix both cages at that point. But of course I can't, I've still got too many boys. I love them too much, I almost can't detach myself from them to rationalise how awful this is. Has anyone ever felt this way after a bad run? Would probably help if I also told you my elderly cats have both passed away during lockdown.

Thank you for reading.
 
I’m so sorry you find yourself being trampled on with the passing of your older cars and your two boys. I will not chastise your or try to placate your feelings. They are what they are and it’s best you allow them out rather than suppress them.

In terms of your boy who’s now single...I would consider putting him next to the other pair (am I right you still have a pair) so that he can have some company through the bars. Hopefully that perks him up and gives you time to consider how you want to move forward.

If you decide to get him a sow or two, you have to consider how you’ll arrange the living quarters. Preferably he would be housed in a separate room to the boars. At a push he and the girl(s) would live underneath the boar pair. The reason being that although they may not be able to physically get to them, their scent alone can lead to a fallout between the boar pair. So you want to avoid that.

Your other alternative is to get him bonded with another boar.

Unfortunately piggies hide their illnesses very well (prey instinct). And a URI and bloat can both lead to quick deterioration. What I can say is that you did your very best for them by getting them seen quickly. And they were loved up until the end.

Perhaps consider weighing the lone pig daily for now to keep an eye on his weight and make sure that he’s eating enough.

Once again I’m so sorry for your losses. You have to also take care of your heart. Hugs.

PS when you feel up to it you’re welcome to post a thread on all your rainbow pets. Also have a read of the threads I’ve linked below for you.
Human Bereavement - Grieving, coping tips and support links for guinea pig owners and their children
Looking After A Bereaved Guinea Pig
 
So sorry for your loss... what an awful run of bad luck.... rest in peace sweet Woody xx
 
Thank you so much. Yes I now have a pair who were bonded after a loss, and now a single. The issue I have with putting the cages next to each other is one of the boars in the pair (it's the younger one, the last one to arrive) is crazy dominant. I think it would cause no end of trouble for the calm pig in that pairing. I would be confident the original bereft pig would bond with this new bereft one, they're both really soppy pigs. But obviously that's not an option because there's a little firecracker in there still happily bonded. I just feel trapped in a cycle of heartbreak and panic. I could go get my single boy a boar or neuter him for a sow, but I would feel sad almost thinking here we go again on a cycle of upset. I don't want to rehome anyone. And the pigs needs have to be priority. So somehow I need to make this work even if it means getting neutering and girls, to eventually reduce into one cage, where I feel a loss may not be as catastrophic as it has felt when losing one of a pair x
 
I understand your logic on not wanting to be left with a single. I’m sure you will decide what is best for both your single and you. Good luck
 
I’m so sorry you’ve been having such a hard time. Hope you can find a solution for yourself and the remaining piggy. Sorry for the loss of your pigs and the cats, I’ve got a senior pair myself and would be lost without them, big hugs from all of us xx
 
I am so sorry for what you have been thru - try to think of the lovely times and just take each day as it comes - it’s ok to feel overwhelmed as you are and you are grieving. Losing your cats and your piggle is just really sad - Everyone on here really understands and is with you in anyway we can be. Perhaps taking time to make any decision will make it clearer for you. Look after yourself and know you did everything you possibly could x x
 
Thank you everyone. I can't even describe how I feel, the pig that died yesterday was my favourite even above the cats 😢 he used to gnaw a box if he could hear my voice or footsteps knowing I would come and see him. He loved a scratch in his cage. Loved queuing up for his pea flake treat and often give me stress as he liked to climb (I know pigs supposedly can't climb, trust me this pig was taking lessons from a chimpanzee). I often used to think in those special moments how on earth would I cope with losing you. And I have. And I'm numb. I haven't cried. I just feel like there is so much racing around my head I am absolutely numb. I know I couldn't have done more, I spent all day with him and he went to the vets in minutes and I paid for the overnight care. I just keep looking at the others thinking so who's next 😔 the bereaved pig has eaten some hay I saw him and I've made an extra hay box next to where he's taken to hiding. He also had a tiny bit of red pepper but overnight last night all the food had been eaten. I will weigh him tomorrow (and no doubt panic). The vet did say on the phone this pig is healthy but she was worried about how terrified he was and suggested putting him in with the other two 😑 I can tell you now that would end in a bloodbath in less than five seconds. X
 
He sounds like he was quite the character. Please try not to panic about his weight. You may find (fingers crossed) he’s actually maintained. Have hope that things will start looking up.

I think you need to take some time and ‘deal’ with tour grief. I think for now he may be okay as a single. I know you said the younger of the other pair is quite boisterous but I would try him next to the pair. If the other in the pair is submissive enough they will hopefully weather the storm once young pig calms down.

Do take your time and don’t rush your decision. I’ll be keeping you in my thoughts. And keep posting whatever if it helps you work through things. 💓
 
I felt fearful of owning piggies too when I lost my Barnaby within 3 months of owning him and despite being really well cared for, after that I had a couple of Respiratory infections with my other piggie. All within my first year of owning them. It can be so stressful to lose them or have to deal with illness.
My heart goes out to you. Take care of yourself. Remind yourself you are an awesome guinea pig owner. With that sort of care I can tell you are.
 
Thank you everyone. I've weighed Buzz (abscess pig and newly bereaved) and his weight is stable. He's eating hay if I hand it to him and he's eaten a bit of tender stem broccoli. He won't come out of his log tunnel, he's almost frightened of his own shadow. I know he will pick up in a few days. I've had him out for a long cuddle and fuss. I put him next to the other pigs cage and the gentle pig came running over, the other stood well back and chattered his teeth. I am leaning towards neutering him, though my vet wasn't keen to do it. We are moving house soon and our new house is pretty close to Cavy Corner. I may contact them to see if they can find a solution for him whilst we are moving into our home. I keep feeling maybe I'm too invested in the pigs, but they seem to me to need a lot of care?! I don't understand how people keep them in hutches in the garden, I couldn't possibly keep up with their needs that way! I check constantly who ate what and what poos there are etc! X
 
Aww he looks so sad! He’s beautiful!

what an awful run you have had. It just goes like that some times, I used to have 6-8 Guineas at any one time and had several terrible times like you. It included being up all night during feeding, then working all day and same thing again. The others had ongoing care which took time every day. For a while I almost gave up. Now I just try to have 4 at one time.

I couldn’t bear to be without them now. all my little ones have taught me so much and I think what a waste of their little lives to give it all up. Continuing to rehome ones who need love is such a lovely thing to do and you will heal.

trouble with Guineas is that they have a short life span and we have a long one so it’s just part of owning them

the only thing I am considering now is fostering. Keeping my own little herd but helping out a rescue time to time when needed. Theoretically with the view you won’t get too attached and won’t have to deal too often with illness and end of life. The one challenge is suspect like me, you would just fall in love with them, but it’s an idea if you are moving near to a rescue?

Time will heal, you sound like an amazing owner and it will get better! x
 
Thank you. His sad little face is breaking my heart every time I look into the cage. He won't stay this sad long term will he?

I've never had more than four at once but unfortunately I've not successfully kept a pair for more than 18 months without losing one so far. I feel very very tired today, I think all the adrenaline is fading now. X
 
Thank you. His sad little face is breaking my heart every time I look into the cage. He won't stay this sad long term will he?

I've never had more than four at once but unfortunately I've not successfully kept a pair for more than 18 months without losing one so far. I feel very very tired today, I think all the adrenaline is fading now. X
He will probably get over it, when one of my guinea pigs died, I let Marlee (That’s her name) see her before we buried her, and Marlee seems fine and doesn’t seem to miss her sister.
 
Ah he’s gorgeous - how are you today potterpig ? Look after yourself 🥰
 
Such a gorgeous piggy and lovely pics.
So sorry that you’ve had such an awful time.
Holding you in my heart
 
I am so sorry for your losses and for how low you are feeling. I felt like you do now in January after 2 dreadful years of losses and illness. Mine seem to have 4 - 6 months of calm sailing and then something else happens and I'm battling another crisis with them. I now take everyday as it comes and just love them, I can't promise them a long life but everyday they are here will be the happiest I can make it.
I had a single boy next to a pair with a very dominant mad bar biter who in the beginning hated the single being there. I put a spare piece of corex down the side of the bars so that they couldn't see each other all the time and to stop the bar biter. I took the corex away twice a day gradually leaving it off for a longer time until I could leave it off altogether. I think this process took about 2 weeks. The 3 lived side by side happily for about 8 months until I decided to pair the single with a new friend.
Getting in touch with Cavy Corner sounds like a good idea, you can register your interest ready for when you move and you are feeling better able to make a decision. You are under a lot of stress at the moment and I think it's important to take some time for yourself and not rush into making any decisions.
Your boy is gorgeous, such lovely markings.
 
I'm so sorry to hear that... But remember you can keep going! Stay strong!
 
Thank you everyone! I'm so sorry I didn't see these posts earlier, I didn't get any usual notifications. Buzz has done some popcorns but he's still hiding a lot. I'm still really not sure if I want another pig but I don't want him to be unhappy. He's only 2. So I have emailed cavy corner and am awaiting a reply, he's going for boarding at the end of the month, I think I will let them assess him and see what they think, if they think he could bond they could try him whilst he's there. That way I'm leaving it upto Buzz ❤️ I can't be selfish when he would be unhappy because I'm afraid of getting upset, and I don't want to rehome him because we are now besties.... 😂 So I'm going to see what happens and I'll let you know. My dominant pig in the other cage is a bar biter 🙈 since all this I found lice on the bar biter but nothing on the other two. More drama 🙈😂
 
Good luck to you and little Buzz with Cavy Corner, I hope he finds a friend.
Hope you can get rid of the lice quickly and easily without too much drama.
 
Good luck to your boy and hopefully he will find a friend. As for the tunnels etc I’m not sure. I think you can clean them but not sure how...
 
Just thought I would update this thread after a few months. Buzz coped fine for about 7 weeks without woody then he got a little bit sad. So he took a trip to see if he would like a friend and today he came home from This Little Piggy in Richmond with a beautiful little pink eyed white boar. They are both very happy 🥰 and mummy is besotted with them both 🥰
 

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