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White jelly thing in ear canal is a polyp

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If you love them surely you would want them to go to someone who could treat them if you can't do so yourself.
 
Yes what my sow had was diagnoses as being a polyp - their exact words were very common in cats never seen in guinea pigs. From when we first noticed the lump in her ear to when she NEEDED an op the change was dramatic - what you are seeing now is what i saw with my sow - your pig will be itching/scratching at it because it's irritating him, like i said a lump in the ear canal is not supposed to be there and it cannot be pleasant. Lucky for me, the first vets i attended kept any infection at bay with the use of antibiotics - I'm 90% sure without those antibiotics she's have been admitted for the op much sooner.

My sow was eating within 20mins of coming round from her op - the vets were very strict in that they needed to see her eat and poop fer several hours before they would let her come home.

I was given a short course of antibiotics when she came home and she went back 7 days later for a check up.

My sow was not herself though - she was very quiet afterwards and it did take around 2wks before she was back to her normal self. She was eating and drinking fine, she was just traumatised and every sound would have her hiding in fear - something she's never done here.

An op in your circumstances is most certainly justifies, having your pig PTS because of financial reasons is not!

There have been some very kind offers from several members of this forum that will allow your pig(s) to get the treatment they so badly need - please please please consider their offers - if your pigs means anything to you then you'll at least want to give them a fighting chance to get better?
 
and yet you are not prepared to spend any money on their welfare.

I cannot believe your attitude over your "loved" pets, and this is coming from someone who has not only worked in farming making the difficult decision on which animals need to be pts or sent to the abbertoir because they are no longer earning their keep, which in every choice for each animal I felt guilty and sad and it was with me and the farmer and farmers wife agreeing would they be sent off to the big paddock in the sky. But I have also worked in an abbertoir and I have pts animals.

I may have a different attitude when it comes to animals that were earning someone a living but my pets are beyond expense which none of us has realistically. I know my matter of fact ways and being able to look at the bigger picture are a result of my work background but even at easter when flash fell ill and I rushed him to the out of hours vets service, I faught for a week to bring him back onto the road to recovery - which I have faced throughout my agricultural career, I was devistated when I lost him in the end. He cost me £150 which I would spend again and more if I could just have him back.
 
The guinea lynx posts ....true good piggie vets nd research is all in the begginnings. A lot do still die because nothing can be done, this is true for many diseases. Had your piggie had something chronic, reoccuring bladder stones or cancer for example, i personally would understand your hestitancy in paying out money to drag out the enivatble.
My parents always ask me when I'm nursing a piggie what are the chances of him coming back from this? Are you delaying the enivatable. Answer these questions and justify you actions.
With the ear condition- it can be fixed with a good prognosis if you get a good vet. Have you started a vet near where you live thread? I'm sure there must be a vet within 100miles. . Flinstones before she could drive but travel by public transport for over 2hours to get her piggies to the best vet. By passing many vets on route.
Part of being a pet owner is doing whats right for them....ALWAYS. Do you think your making the right decision by them. They are 4- middle aged. And could potentially live out another 2-3healthy years if they get treated. If money is the issue, if you love them you wld give them to someone who can care for them. I knoiw its hard to give them up but if you have to accept that a rodent has a soul and will be fond of you as you are of them. PTS IMO is only right when the animals prognosis is poor, we humans cannot play god.
FYI septrin is the anibiotic needed for crying when wee-ing. Baytril generally is rubbish for UTI's and lots of infections now as its becoming overused.
 
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@ Sodapops – But my rodent doesn’t scratch his ear at all, if I hadn’t have looked in there I wouldn’t have known there was an issue.

If anyone here wants to pay my vet bills feel free! But I sure as hell ain’t handing them over to anyone else.

@ Pepperdog – My rodent’s op is quoted at £100 - £120 but lets face it, there’s no guarantee the op will go smoothly and the bill will be that much. In fact I have little faith in him coming through the op or getting well afterwards, I imagine he’ll need on-going treatment and trips back time and time again. Some people on this forum have spent £1000 by keeping on trying to get their pets well, the bills can escalate.

@ hazeyg – Forgot to say, the black rodent may have cancer, the vet said it was a possibility. & with their peeing in pain thing I’ve always thought these last few years it’s a ticking time bomb and one day one may die from it so I’m not certain their life expectancy is 7 years anyway. & is having an op really a good prognosis for my rodent cos I thought polyps have a tendency to regrow or for more to develop? You see this is why I’m hesitant of just going ahead with an op for it all to be redone later. Fudge sure ain’t gonna like that. He's not a rodent that's up for messing with. He doesn't like being grabbed at all, he wants to be left alone.

There’s no way in hell my mother would be up for a 2 hour drive!

I think I can come to terms with putting them down but giving them away is something I could never do. No waaaaay!
 
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@ Sodapops – But my rodent doesn’t scratch his ear at all, if I hadn’t have looked in there I wouldn’t have known there was an issue.

If anyone here wants to pay my vet bills feel free! But I sure as hell ain’t handing them over to anyone else.

@ Pepperdog – My rodent’s op is quoted at £100 - £120 but lets face it, there’s no guarantee the op will go smoothly and the bill will be that much. In fact I have little faith in him coming through the op or getting well afterwards, I imagine he’ll need on-going treatment and trips back time and time again. Some people on this forum have spent £1000 by keeping on trying to get their pets well, the bills can escalate.

@ hazeyg – Forgot to say, the black rodent may have cancer, the vet said it was a possibility. & with their peeing in pain thing I’ve always thought these last few years it’s a ticking time bomb and one day one may die from it so I’m not certain their life expectancy is 7 years anyway. & is having an op really a good prognosis for my rodent cos I thought polyps have a tendency to regrow or for more to develop? You see this is why I’m hesitant of just going ahead with an op for it all to be redone later. Fudge sure ain’t gonna like that. He's not a rodent that's up for messing with. He doesn't like being grabbed at all, he wants to be left alone.

There’s no way in hell my mother would be up for a 2 hour drive!

I think I can come to terms with putting them down but giving them away is something I could never do. No waaaaay!
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When I phoned up the out of hours service I was told the consult - thats just to see the actual vet would be £180 which I dont have lying around - if I did I could just go and get a new sewing machine to replace my now currently broken one. But I had no choice, I was not going to stand back and watch my PET die, it was the wrong price quoted as it turned out and was actually £90 + medications and at the time I didnt know that he wasnt going to be with me a week later, by the day he died I knew but that was experience telling me and I made him as comfortable as possible.

You dont want to pay the vet bills, you dont want to hand them over to a rescue that would take care of them in their hour of need which you wont do. You have even been offered a rescue space which I know is very difficult for the rescues as they are beyond full, so to refuse this is beyond belief

I actually feel that from reading all previous threads you are a big liar and are actually not looking at having any guinea pigs put down, thats even if you have them in the first place, your main aim on this forum is to stir up trouble and get as much attention and reaction from people as possible.
 
Pepperdog said:
your main aim on this forum is to stir up trouble and get as much attention and reaction from people as possible.
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I agree completly. Its just one upsetting thread after another from this poster. I hope that she is a troll and doesn't really have any guinea pigs.
 
I've done 446 posts over a period of a few years, I must be pretty crazy if this is all a wind up. Anyway, ask Niki, she's met me and and my rodents. They exist and they have problems.
 
Then why wont you help them? How can you sleep at night knowing that you have sick animals that you aren't doing everything to can to make their lives better and pain free?
 
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@ Sodapops – But my rodent doesn’t scratch his ear at all, if I hadn’t have looked in there I wouldn’t have known there was an issue.

If anyone here wants to pay my vet bills feel free! But I sure as hell ain’t handing them over to anyone else.

@ Pepperdog – My rodent’s op is quoted at £100 - £120 but lets face it, there’s no guarantee the op will go smoothly and the bill will be that much. In fact I have little faith in him coming through the op or getting well afterwards, I imagine he’ll need on-going treatment and trips back time and time again. Some people on this forum have spent £1000 by keeping on trying to get their pets well, the bills can escalate.

@ hazeyg – Forgot to say, the black rodent may have cancer, the vet said it was a possibility. & with their peeing in pain thing I’ve always thought these last few years it’s a ticking time bomb and one day one may die from it so I’m not certain their life expectancy is 7 years anyway. & is having an op really a good prognosis for my rodent cos I thought polyps have a tendency to regrow or for more to develop? You see this is why I’m hesitant of just going ahead with an op for it all to be redone later. Fudge sure ain’t gonna like that. He's not a rodent that's up for messing with. He doesn't like being grabbed at all, he wants to be left alone.

There’s no way in hell my mother would be up for a 2 hour drive!

I think I can come to terms with putting them down but giving them away is something I could never do. No waaaaay!
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I never witnessed my guinea pig scratching her ear either - i never watched her 24/7, I'm asuming that's what happened as it was clearly irritating her as she didn't want us to touch her ear and would shake her head frequently.

If your vet told you your guinea pig has an ear polyp, then it's exactly the same as what my sow had - if your guinea pigs ear is leaking fluid/puss then it's infected and the problem will not go away.

My sow had her's removed over a year ago now and it's never come back - i was advised that if it did re-appear then they would look in to doing some tests and looking at ALL the options. The vets never actually removed all of the growth from my sows ear as they said it was too far down in to the ear canal - to remove it all they would need to cut away part of her ear canal - a VERY risky op that they were not prepared to do at that stage.

The leaving it and seeing how things go have inevitably led to the situation you are in now. Nevertheless with all that aside you do have a guinea pig sitting in front of you with a condition that is easily sorted with a simple op.

Everything you are feeling right now re. complications is exactly how i felt - however when a guinea pig has a condition that is non life threatening and only requires a simple procedure to put it right - surely its a no brainer really? Your guinea pig has a desire to live as they are still eating/drinking and acting normally - nothing you have suggested screams that this pig is desperately ill, we are not talking life/death situations here - YET!

He will be feeling not so good due to having a huge infected growth inside his ear - eventually that infection will get worse and to the stage where your pig will become so ill that any treatment will be useless.

All your if's and but's are delaying treatment and that WILL see his condition worsen - you do not know how he will be after the op, nor do you have a crystal ball to see in to the future to make assumptions that one op will lead to many.

You say you love them dearly - but is seeing them in pain every day loving them? Do what's right and either get the op done and see how things go or sign them over to someone that can give them the very best treatment
 
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You have been offered the help you need, as with every other thread i sadly suspect you will ignor it. In the mean time i personally am going to step back and i would advise others to do the same. If in fact you are not a troll i do hope you will take up the piggy banks kind offer, in the mean time, just in case...

Dont feed the troll people.
 
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Those poor little pigs did not ask to come to you. You took them on (be it from a shop, rescue or whatever) and you are responsible for them. They are entirely dependent on you and you owe it to them to provide the best possible care. If your situation does not allow for it then as a responsible owner you should take them to someone who is at least willing to fight for them.
 
for having these many (if you ever had) animals in your so called care, you have blatantly if we are to believe anything you have said on here, have infact been in breach of the animal welfare act, http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/45/section/4 and failure to follow the rsoca guidelines of the 5 freedoms protection from and treatment of, illness and injury.

I am very good friends with the rspca, shall I let them know how much you "care" about your alleged animals
 
@ Sodapops – But would your rodent only shake her head whilst you had hold of her and was trying to look in the ear? That’s the only time my rodent shakes its head a lot. I asked the vet I saw last week why he was so against letting us look inside his ear and was he trying to tell us he’s in pain and she said that some animals just don’t like having their heads touched. I think this is rubbish, he’s gotta be in pain. I said he doesn’t like me looking in the dodgy ear but doesn’t seem to mind so much with the other ear. (Gotta be a pants vet.)

Can’t decide what to do but I know if I were to get talked into going ahead with an op on here and it all goes downhill from there I know who I’ll be blaming. My instincts tell me to not let the vets at him.

@ Pepperdog - & what are you going to say to the RSPCA? Are you going to tell them that you know someone who has pets and every time the pets have exhibited health issues she’s taken them to the vets and has had treatment, sought information and advice online and that she’s now thinking of putting them down to save further suffering? You can tell them that if you like, I don’t mind.
 
Sue_P said:
Two, his brother at the same time. That one's got a runny nose and runny eye, had it for a year. Both of them are in pain when they pee too. They're 4 years old.
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@ Pepperdog - & what are you going to say to the RSPCA? Are you going to tell them that you know someone who has pets and every time the pets have exhibited health issues she’s taken them to the vets and has had treatment, sought information and advice online and that she’s now thinking of putting them down to save further suffering? You can tell them that if you like, I don’t mind.
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a year with no progression of treatment or improvement on condition, how long until they were taken to the vets, and with an addition of what is made to sound like a UTI, yet no mention of treatment.

You are openly admitting you care nothing for them during their illness, yet are happy to have them put down for the sake of it. How do we know that your matter of fact husbandry skills have not caused the progression to the point of them having to be destroyed. I know people have tried their best with over the counter flea treatment and their pets have actually had a flea allergy. This is a breach of the animal welfare act plain and simple, even some treatment is not subsitute for proper and full treatment.

But then again as nothing you have said has made any logical sense to any of us that actually do seek veterinary treatment and will do anything we can to help, the vet visits and comments are probably made up too.
 
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No. I love them more than anyone in the world and I'm not willing to give them away.
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This is possibly the most selfish thing I have read, if you love them you;d be seeking the best possible treatment and attempting to care for them no matter what the cost. You cannot love them yet deny them treatment unless you're enjoying their suffering. Those poor poor animals, had they been surrendered I'm sure they would have stood a chance.

As I have said before JUST STOP KEEPING ANIMALS IF YOU DON'T CARE ENOUGH TO TREAT THEM!
 
@ Pebble - I’d forgotten all about that. Was that from some time ago? I think I looked into Holly House Vets at the time and whatever I found out didn’t make me want to rush there. But cheers for the reminder although it is a bit far to go.

@ Pepperdog – I think you should get your facts right before making accusations. The same with anyone else getting worked up again.
 
The facts are there in black and white, you don't want to spend money on them, and you leave them with illnesses without treatment, to get worse. Forgive me if I'm wrong but that doesn't exactly scream 'loving caring owner' rolleyes

You've been given more than enough good advice, end the suffering and act on it.
 
When have they had an illness and I’ve not sought advice from a vet?
Every time there’s an issue I’ve either phoned up and sought advice from the vets or been to see them.
I’ve never not given a medication a vet thinks I should try. They’ve had umpteen stuff over the years. They’ve been to the vets umpteen times. Blah, I can’t be bothered with this. I’ve got enough things on my mind at the mo without having to justify my actions to online strangers.
 
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@ Sodapops – But would your rodent only shake her head whilst you had hold of her and was trying to look in the ear? That’s the only time my rodent shakes its head a lot. I asked the vet I saw last week why he was so against letting us look inside his ear and was he trying to tell us he’s in pain and she said that some animals just don’t like having their heads touched. I think this is rubbish, he’s gotta be in pain. I said he doesn’t like me looking in the dodgy ear but doesn’t seem to mind so much with the other ear. (Gotta be a pants vet.)

Can’t decide what to do but I know if I were to get talked into going ahead with an op on here and it all goes downhill from there I know who I’ll be blaming. My instincts tell me to not let the vets at him.

@ Pepperdog - & what are you going to say to the RSPCA? Are you going to tell them that you know someone who has pets and every time the pets have exhibited health issues she’s taken them to the vets and has had treatment, sought information and advice online and that she’s now thinking of putting them down to save further suffering? You can tell them that if you like, I don’t mind.
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Despite what i may think about your matter of fact attitude towards your guinea pigs i have continued to offer advice within your threads, if you wish to dis-believe what I'm saying then that's up to you.

My only intention was to show you that there is a way your guinea pig does not have to suffer and that his condition is not as black and white as you put it. There will always be risk with any op - no matter how big/small - it's the vets duty to explain these risks so you are aware of them. It the same for human surgery - you will be told about all sorts of risks....

The vets that carried out my sows op stated it WAS a polyp - you have sought vets advice and they have diagnosed your boy with also having a polyp - its the same condition and the end result will be the same - or maybe not depending on how you want to play it.

Everything you are describing was exactly the same as my sow - only difference was that her condition was 'put on hold' so to speak due to incompetent vets prescribing useless antibiotics when what she really needed was an op in the first place.

Part of being a good/responsible pet owner is knowing your limits - if finances are holding you back from giving them the treatment they need, then if you love them like you say you do, you should give them to someone that can provide this for them! Surely as hard as it would be giving them up, it would be less painful than watching your guinea pigs pass away in the most horrendous pain imaginable?
 
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When have they had an illness and I’ve not sought advice from a vet?
Every time there’s an issue I’ve either phoned up and sought advice from the vets or been to see them.
I’ve never not given a medication a vet thinks I should try. They’ve had umpteen stuff over the years. They’ve been to the vets umpteen times. Blah, I can’t be bothered with this. I’ve got enough things on my mind at the mo without having to justify my actions to online strangers.
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If that is the case, don't come on here telling everyone (and upsetting them) that you are going to kill your pets rather than give them treatment that they desperately need.

You are not a 'loving' owner because if you were you would do ANYTHING and pay 'any amount' to make them better, including giving them the chance at a rescue.
 
This is a forum for guinea pig lovers.

I have quite a few piggies and sometimes I'm short on cash. My piggies health and well being go before anything else! I took on all my piggies knowing I can afford to take them to the vet and afford to look after and feed each and everyone of them. I also know if for some reason I am short on money and I need vet treatment I have a back up plan. Without fail if an animal of mine needs vet treatment it will get it! Even if I then have to go without.

If I ever got into a position that I couldn't look after my animals I would never do the selfish thing of having them PTS. I would arrange rescue accommodation for them as I have seen the amazing work rescues do and know they would have a happy life even if I was not there.

Do what is right for your guinea pigs.
 
I vote this thread to be closed. If anyone can think of any alternative vets for Sue_P I suggest they PM her. We have offered, adoption, suggestions of help to syringe feed post op and similar experiences to give her and her piggies hope.
I strongly advice Sue, that you go to the vet and get their opinion on your piggies prognosis and do whats right for your piggies based on your vets opinion.
The way you write stirs things up and although I dont agree with some of your statements and its hard to understand how much care etc is being provided, I have to respect that you have seen the vet and cant afford to do anythign else. I do urge you not to take on no more animals however and after speaking to a good vet make the right decision for your piggie. FYI - some vets will do a telephone consult.
 
I think this thread has run its course so I am closing it.

Please PM me if there are any queries.
 
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