Will It Ever Get Any Easier?

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Sian25

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It's been 4 months since we lost our beautiful little Hugo and I am still really struggling and feel like I need to vent.

Alot of people will know the story about how we spent months researching and deciding what was best for our boys after they fell out and in the end, we had them both neutered and planned to pair them up with a sow each. I thought I had found the perfect vet to do the job but we had problems after problems from day one. Both boys developed abscesses and both had them lanced and drained but Hugos felt as though it had returned and the vet agreed and suggested surgery to remove asap. The surgery went ahead and the vet told me that no abscess was found and that she had just removed dead tissue. Hugo was doing great for the first few days- he acted as though nothing had happened! He was eating and drinking well and my main concern was trying to slow him down a bit while healing as he was even popcorning and standing up at the cage bars!

A few days later, Hugo was his normal self at bed time, enjoyed his night time veg and cuddles in our bed but then come morning time, I noticed something was wrong. He was very quiet and sat in a corner and didn't appear to have touched any of his food. It was a Sunday so we couldn't get him booked in with an exotic vet and had to choose between travelling an hour to the emergency vet practise that is used by his vet or my local vet that I used for my dog.. I decided to use my local vet as neither were exotic vets and I thought it would be more beneficial to get him seen to earlier, especially because I had noticed that he seemed to be starting to get a bit bloated.

We took him to our local vet and I mentioned the fact that he felt bloated but the vet said it seems to be more illius (unsure of spelling). He injected with emeprid and gave us some to take away and he was also injected with a stronger pain killer than metacam and b12. I can't remember the name of the stronger painkiller though. Throughout the day, it was clear that Hugo was really bloating and I immediately got back on the phone to the vet who told me that I would need to give the emeprid time to work. It was honestly the worse day ever because I felt so helpless and couldn't get anyone to help us. Very soon after putting the phone down, Hugo was blowing up like a balloon and the noises he made will never ever leave my mind. I just knew at that point that the only thing I wanted for Hugo at that point was to immediately get him out of that pain and help him on his way to the rainbow bridge. I phoned the vet again and briefly explained the situation and asked him to meet me at the surgery now to put him to sleep (as the vet was back home). He kept avoiding answering me whether he was going to come to the surgery and instead told me that he sounds as though he is choking and had something stuck in his throat and directed me to tip the poor boy upside down. I blatantly refused to do this and emphasised on fact that he was not choking and instear my boy was blowing up to a massive size and I need him put to sleep right now. The vet kept insisting to tip him up and I kept refusing and to be honest, I ended up being very rude to the vet because I was sat with Hugo, watching him in pain and it was the most distressing thing I've ever had to witness. In the end, I told him that I'm leaving now and would like him to meet me at the surgery and he finally agreed but told me he was 20 minutes away. I jumped in the car (my partner was driving) and before we even got out of our road, Hugo started gasping for breath and crossing the rainbow bridge on his own. I took him back inside as I wanted him to pass away at home rather than in the car and we cuddled him until the end. The very end was quick but he must have suffered badly beforehand.

My partner and i were absolutely distraught and she plucked up the courage to phone the vet to explain (while blubbering down the phone) he had already past away. She was told down the phone that we HAD to still bring Hugo to the surgery as we had made the appointment and the vet was on his way. All I wanted to do was cuddle my boy at home and in peace and the last thing on my mind was to face the vet that took too long to agree to meet us there in the first place. My head was all over the place and I wouldn't have normally but I agreed to go to the surgery. When we arrived, the vet basically just told us yes, he's no longer with us and also charged us for the emergency appointment.

I know that loosing a pet is so so so difficult regardless but I can't even put it into words how that day has affected us. I have always been a firm believer that I will NEVER let any of my pets suffer and that day I had to watch it in front of my eyes while not being able to find a vet to help. It also makes it worse because I chose to put him through that neutering and we would still have our happy little boy hear if my decision was different. The guilt is unreal and there's not a day that goes by where I don't think about it all. My boy had to suffer which was probably a twisted gut and I couldn't take him out of that pain. I can't look at his cremation box and I just can't come to terms with the way this happened and not sure whether I ever will?

 
You did the best that you could have done. I have argued with vets in the past about my hamsters. You chose to have Hugo neutered to make his life better, and the issue here is a vet who did not listen to you, despite you being his owner who knew him. Hindsight is not always a good thing because it permits self blame and guilt to grow and fester.

We can only do the best we can do at the time, and Hugo knew that he was loved and cared for throughout his life. It is difficult to get over the death of a beloved pet, but you and your partner really did do everything that you could have done for him.

Hugo has a special place in your hearts, and when you are ready he would approve of you both taking on another piggy to love and cherish as you did him.
 
I'm so so sorry for the loss of Hugo.
Sleep tight little man.
I agree with everything that flamestriker has said.
I think if you got another piggy Hugo would be OK with that, he knows everything was not your fault.
But he knows there is an empty place in your heart, that needs filling. maybe a rescue one that has a rough time. But only you can fill it when your ready.
I don't know if you have got any more piggies.

I don't no what your going to do with your vet. I would report him, refuse to pay his fees, & before you get a piggie, I'd look for a savvy cavy vet.
Thoughts are with you Hun. x
 
I remember Hugo's story and l am sorry it was so traumatic in the end for you and him.
I think the behaviour of the vet was shocking and l think you would be wise to report his behaviour to the practice manager and demand an apology.
Thinking of you xx
 
I remember the whole saga well, and I can not even begin to imagine how awful it was for you and your partner to see your boy suffer like that.
As it was so horrifically traumatic, it is completely understandable that you are both still deeply grieving.
Loosing one of our pets is never easy, but to loose Hugo under the circumstances that you did just makes the whole thing so much harder to move on from.

Having said all of that, everything you did for Hugo (and Milan) was always well thought out, well researched, and in their absolute best interests.
Every decision you made for your boys was always done with their needs being put first.
You clearly love them, and I like to think (hope?) that our animals know this, and carry it with them always.
Even when he was suffering, you were right there to comfort him, and I am sure Hugo knew that and took great comfort from it.
He was never alone or unloved, and you should not overlook how much you were able to give your boy during his time with you.
His life was wonderful, and despite the sad and early ending, it does not take away from all of the great things he experienced being part of your family. :hug:
 
This was a very brave post to write @Sian25.
Grief is multi layered and has many phases. When your love for another being is as strong as yours was for Hugo, and when the end has been as traumatic as Hugo's was, it's no surprise that you still have such vivid memories of the events and such strong feelings. It's important to talk through your feelings and memories as part of the healing process. Don't bottle it up. Hugo was a very special and well loved piggy. I'm sure that he is sorely missed. Some piggies leave a huge hole behind. I know I still miss both Mr Ted and my beloved Connie who I lost earlier this year, too. Big hugs. Be kind to yourself x
 
You did everything you could and more - I have had 2 piggies go because of illius and there really is nothing that can be done when it gets to that stage - as my vet puts it illius is basically the end stage of them shutting down and even emiprid can't help them - Bea blew up like a balloon and the emiprid didn't work,my vet had to shave her on her side and pop a needle in her to release the gas which made her more comfortable,but she was still shutting down - Nuggets started to bloat on the drive back from the vets ,no warning and he had only gone along to hold Noodles paw while she had an operation - again emiprid couldn't get the guts going and he passed in the night - Noodels passed 24 hrs later when she refused to eat any syringe food because she knew Nuggets had died ,When they are ill you want to get them to the vets as soon as possible,you did the right thing - I still cry over Bumble every day and it's been just over a month since he passed - I am sorry that the idiot vet made things more traumatic for you - but Hugo knew how much you loved him - animals are more perceptive than most people realise ,he knew.

big hugs to you both xx
 
I really feel for you Sian. I'm not sure what more I can add to the amazing posts above but I've been through some devastating experiences too with my guinea pigs and I can say that it does get better. Last week I lost Kiwi, who was the most gorgeous guinea pig in every way, and we had only had her for just under a year. I did think about calling one of the pet bereavement phone lines...maybe that's an option for you? I always think of all the ways I could possibly have failed my guinea pig and dealing with that guilt and sense of loss is really hard. I've been "breathing out" my emotions and it helps release them (deep breath out like sinking into a warm bath)...then I had to stop myself from feeling guilty about no longer feeling like my world had ended over Kiwi's parting! It doesn't mean that we love them less to feel less pain ourselves.

It has helped us to buy a new guinea pig. I was still grieving and not sure about getting another because I really wanted to find Kiwi again and I was worried that I wouldn't really like the next guinea pig because they wouldn't be Kiwi. I looked online but didn't find any females who needed rescuing, locally. I wanted another Teddy and felt bad that when we got her I was the one who wasn't sure, because her fur was slightly rough. My daughter and I went to Pets At Home, who are good for guineas, and there was one girl...she'd actually been there for 12 weeks and 13 guineas had been sold before here...maybe the guinea Gods were keeping her on one side for us! And she is a Teddy. She doesn't look exactly like Kiwi but that's a good thing because she is her own piggie...she is adorable, is a real character, and I do love her. I hope things start to become easier for you xx
 
I am so sorry for your loss and can fully understand the sadness you feel. I lost my beloved cat, Chester, under the cloud of a Veterinary saga (although the vets who finally treated him were excellent) . It took me about a year to stop hurting badly and feeling guilty , although I had done nothing wrong. Allow youself to grieve and cry as much as you need but try not to think any of what happened was your fault. We make balanced decisions in the best interests of our pets and out of love but unfortunately things sometimes do not turn out as planned. He was loved and you did your best for him, everything else was out of your control. He is now sleeping peacefully. X
 
Thank you all. I guess the hardest part of it is that I couldn't persuade the vet quick enough to help him over the bridge when he was clearly in agony. Those images are still so raw in my head and it upsets me so much to know he had to suffer. The vet has always been great with my dog (although I don't think I can take him back there again).. I do think that the vet genuinely believed that Hugo was choking although I'm not sure what gave him that idea to be honest. It's just sad how some vets don't have the knowledge for guinea pigs and maybe if it wasn't a Sunday, I would have been able to get better vet care for Hugo and maybe things would have been different.

Sorry for all the horrible details in the post though, I just can't bare to look at his little cremation box but when I'm doing the polishing and dusting around the house then I have to look at it and give it a nice wipe over and that's when I start getting more upset and need to get things off my chest.

We adopted Effie- milan's wife a week after loosing Hugo. It felt so so wrong but Milan needed a friend. Although he and Hugo only lived side by side after their fall out, they communicated through the bars and I could tell that Milan was very lonely and spent his time pretty much sat in the one place. If I'm being honest, I did struggle to begin with once we brought effie home so soon after the loss of Hugo. As in to see her in the cage, I couldn't help but think that should be Hugo. I know that sounds so awful and I can assure you that feeling didn't last very long (she's our little spoilt princess- all our animals have only ever been boys haha) and we are head over heels in love with her and her cheeky personality but getting her so soon after the trauma felt as though she was supposed to be a replacement. It's hard to explain but we do adore her.

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Distressing memories/images do stay with us but there is help available. Counselling may help and there are pet bereavement counsellors you can call at charities. Also, my daughter used to be bothered by a distressing image and she had hypnotherapy...one session resolved it for her. I hope that helps xx
 
Sian, I've just remembered a chap called David Rowan...my daughter has seen him too for help. Here is a youtube clip of something that's easy to do at home, and it's for making something easier to deal with. It may help...
 
Huge hugs hun.Their in my avatar was very special to me and I had to get another a couple of days after losing her as her cage mate was pining.It didn't feel right at first but poppy rose (the pig I got) now holds a very special place in my heart.I took on a dog that needed help three weeks after I lost my other boy of thirteen years.That took some adjusting to as well.We all have the what ifs when we lose an animal and in your case even harder due to the way you lost him.You did the best you could and he will have known that.I agree that pet bereavement councilling could help.
 
Huge hugs hun.Their in my avatar was very special to me and I had to get another a couple of days after losing her as her cage mate was pining.It didn't feel right at first but poppy rose (the pig I got) now holds a very special place in my heart.I took on a dog that needed help three weeks after I lost my other boy of thirteen years.That took some adjusting to as well.We all have the what ifs when we lose an animal and in your case even harder due to the way you lost him.You did the best you could and he will have known that.I agree that pet bereavement councilling could h
 
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