will someone PLEASE HELP ME DECIDE what to do.. help with bullying

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Sodapops said:
Two of my boys were from a breeder (when i didn't know any better) he was shutting down and getting rid of his stock - believe or not he had all manor of pigs - shelties/coronets/teddies/smooth hairs/peruvians/rexes - all were different ages - if he's have told me he 'rescued' on the side he could have easily been believed - but nope he was deffo a breeder - might i add his pigs were all in immaculate condition too - as were their homes - very impressive - but he was still a breeder none the less!!

Asking people to give this woman credit for what she does and then in the same sentance saying she only breeds once a year and also shows on the side is in my eye discussing intentional breeding - something a lot of people come here to get away from...

I dont think anyone had rail-roaded your topic at all and turned it in to something is isn't - just merely pointed out that that this woman you went to is not what most would class a rescue and as such are offended by you saying sh is and should be comended....

You started a thread and openly admitted the person you were dealing with was a breeder and shows pigs in her spare time - on a forum where rescue is the main focus, people will respond with their own views. On a public forum you cannot pick and choose which replies you like and dislike - everyone is allowed an opinion! It just so happens that people dont agree on this one - nothing wrong with that - read/reply/move on simples.....
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I said the lady rescues pigs from my local animal sancuary when they are full! So if they inform me she is a rescue i tend to believe them. And i did not ask people to give her credit i said i feel she should be given credit for taking in unwanted pigs from irresponsible owners.that is not stating that everyone should feel the same way as me is it now? Maybe you should reread through my posts. I am fully aware that people have different opinions to me and thats fine but why are my opinions any less worthy than yours? And why are my opinions being torn into and dismissed? And i know this forum is a rescue based forum and as stated already the abby pig i got from the lady was infact one of her rescue pigs IT HAD BEEN DUMPED ALONG WITH OTHER PIGS IN A BOX ON HER FRONT LAWN she did not breed it or the many other pigs she had. She had no babys no pregnant or feeding sows. The breeding is very occasional and she will be retiring it soon. I only mentiones the breeding as she offered me a rex she had bred herself as well as the rescued abby baby, that is why the topic of breeding was brought up. And my thread has been rail roaded ! Did i ask the forum there thought on breeding or did i ask for a slanging match on a completly irrelevant topic? NO! I asked the forum for help with my two boars bonding and bullying. I feel no reason to further this conversation and any further posts will be seen as you trying to cause an argument or to have another pop at me. This is not the first time we have had a difference of opinions and you have been judgemental towards me so please in future do not post to my threads as your posts have not been helpful in the slightest you have simply had a go at me in every post. End of discussion and yes simples (very mature by the way xx>>> )
 
welshwonderful said:
I really think this thread should stop now as it's getting out of hand and in parts don't make nice reading Nicola x
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I completely agree. In future any issues i have will not be put up on this forum as there are to many judgemental folk on here. Hope your okay and i apologise for the ridiculous posts on this thread and i can assure i will not ** posting to this thread again
 
Lil-Ninnibig said:
I said the lady rescues pigs from my local animal sancuary when they are full! So if they inform me she is a rescue i tend to believe them. And i did not ask people to give her credit i said i feel she should be given credit for taking in unwanted pigs from irresponsible owners.that is not stating that everyone should feel the same way as me is it now? Maybe you should reread through my posts. I am fully aware that people have different opinions to me and thats fine but why are my opinions any less worthy than yours? And why are my opinions being torn into and dismissed? And i know this forum is a rescue based forum and as stated already the abby pig i got from the lady was infact one of her rescue pigs IT HAD BEEN DUMPED ALONG WITH OTHER PIGS IN A BOX ON HER FRONT LAWN she did not breed it or the many other pigs she had. She had no babys no pregnant or feeding sows. The breeding is very occasional and she will be retiring it soon. I only mentiones the breeding as she offered me a rex she had bred herself as well as the rescued abby baby, that is why the topic of breeding was brought up. And my thread has been rail roaded ! Did i ask the forum there thought on breeding or did i ask for a slanging match on a completly irrelevant topic? NO! I asked the forum for help with my two boars bonding and bullying. I feel no reason to further this conversation and any further posts will be seen as you trying to cause an argument or to have another pop at me. This is not the first time we have had a difference of opinions and you have been judgemental towards me so please in future do not post to my threads as your posts have not been helpful in the slightest you have simply had a go at me in every post. End of discussion and yes simples (very mature by the way xx>>> )
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Whatever...lmao I was not the only one to comment on the 'breeding/showing' comments you had made - perhaps you should go back and re-read because yet again you have singled my post out of many others that ALSO disagreed with this woman being classed as a rescue!

Quite personal with your comments aren't you?.....

I think you are the one taking things WAY off topic now - you mentioned going to a breeder - all your posts on this topic mention the words rescue, breeder and showing in almost every post youve made - i didn't make that up it's there in black and white... because of this many people have made comment - i feel it's very relevant to the original topic as this is one of the reasons why your bonding failed - boar bonding is a tricky thing to get right and should only be done by those with experience..

For the sake of putting a stop to this i will appologise for the way my posts have come across (you are obviously reading them in a very deffensive manor) - but i will not appologise for not agreeing that giving my pigs yoghurt drops is acceptable because you say so and that a breeder should be classed as a rescue because she only breeds occassionally....

Enough said - again i will back away it's obvious your threads will end the same way - a heated debate!!
 
No one is saying your opinion is worthless but the FACT of the ISSUE (i.e the breeder) is one that cannot be condoned. It doesn't matter if its every month or every couple of months, breeding at all is adding to the problem of animals in rescue and that ACT is wrong, not peoples opinion of it but the doing part.

People can THINK what they like on the subject but the ACTION is still a problem non the less and any animal charity or genuine rescue will tell you that.

There's also plenty of rex's in rescue, why won't she go and seek out one of them? it isn't difficult.
 
I would like to say, I'm very very fed up of the amount of threads ending like this lately.

This forum clearly states from the outset that it is rescue friendly. It becomes quite clear as a member that the focus is on rescue piggies. We have some very experienced rescues on this forum that work tirelessly to help piggies, and then give what little spare time they have to come and advise folk in need on here.

I can only imagine how depressing it is for them, to come here after a long day nursing sick piggies back to health, and washing those kept in unclean conditions, and dealing with such small babies being pregnant themselves, to see that instead of one of their lovely saved piggies being expertly bonded to another piggy, and getting a loving home, another piggy has gone home with an injury instead. With their owner wanting yet more advice from the lovely rescue people who give their time to help, and if their original advice had been followed the sittuation would never have occured.

I dont know how these guys do it, because i get fed up just reading about it, nevermind doing it myself.
 
my little piggy was getting bullied but i went and baught a new cage to seperate them both and now everyday i let them out to play so they can still enjoy eachovers company
 
I am not reading posts in a defensive manner and no sodapops i am not picking out your post, i quoted your post as you were discussing my post with another forum member in a undermining and patronising way. I never once stated i agreed with breeding pig when there is so many in rescues and i will state one more time that the abby baby i had off this lady was a rescue he was dumped in her garden in a cardboard box. All i said was the lady also has a hobby of showing pigs and so breeds show stock, rexes in rescue centres will not meet show standards 100%. I to do not agree with breeding or showing of my pigs when there are pigs in rescue centres desperate for homes. I wasnt forcing breeding on anyone as i understand this forum is rescue based my original post was asking for advice on boar issues, i had to describe all the circumstances and situation in order to give forum members a clear view of the situation in order for them to offer me advice . Instead i recieve a back lash of comments basically 'having a go at me' for mentioning breeder and rescue in the same sentence. How else could i describe the lady she take in and rehomes unwanted pigs paying for feed and housing and vet bills and she also breeds and shows rexes? So she does breed and rescue. That is all i was trying to say i was not being defensive i did not end my posts sarcastically or with simples so no i am not the one being defensive. The sheer fact soda pops that you brought up the prior altercation regarding yogurt drops proves to me you have an issue with me and so i would appreciate it if you did not comment on my posts and i will do the same for you. You have a right to say what you think just as much as i do, and other members do i picked out and quoted your posts as the wording was offensive patronising and just not friendly. Even another member commented on one of your posts on this thread. Please leave it be now i joined this forum for advice not for an argument
 
At the risk of getting told off...

I know this is a rescue friendly forum - but not everyone has the option of a rescue...

And while it is rescue 'friendly' it doesn't say rescue compulsary.

I find it a bit dissapointing to read these sorts of threads, this forum should be for advice, and it gets clouded sometimes with where the pig came from which overtakes the entire topic...

But I am keeping out. Was just saying. :x
 
PAMELAKT said:
At the risk of getting told off...

I know this is a rescue friendly forum - but not everyone has the option of a rescue...

And while it is rescue 'friendly' it doesn't say rescue compulsary.

I find it a bit dissapointing to read these sorts of threads, this forum should be for advice, and it gets clouded sometimes with where the pig came from which overtakes the entire topic...

But I am keeping out. Was just saying. :x
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thankyou :-) i feel the same way and feel my original post has been disregarded and the fact of where i got the pig as you say from overloads the original question regarding boars and bullying. Thankyou for your support.
 
Lil-Ninnibig said:
completely agree. All i wanted was advice regarding bullying between newly bonded boars and this thread is the result of asking for advice from a friendly forum.
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I think that you've been given far more constructive advice than most. There are plenty of other forums out there that are pro breeding if this one is a problem for you.
 
This is a bit like reading a playground argument...'he said...she said...'

For goodness sakes, everyone just grow up!

I am extremely fed up with this forum...I am losing the enjoyment of talking to like minded piggy owners, because of all the 'mud slinging' that happens.

We ALL love piggies otherwise we wouldn't be on this forum in the first place! It does clearly state in the forum title that this is a Rescue friendly forum and any talk of breeding is not allowed. This is because there are so many unwanted, neglected cavies out there looking for their forever homes and to intentionally add (hobby or not) to the ever growing piggy population is irresponsible.

I am taking a break from here...a lot of recent posts really annoy me and for sanitys sake I'm giving it a rest for a while.
 
Lil-Ninnibig said:
I am not reading posts in a defensive manner and no sodapops i am not picking out your post, i quoted your post as you were discussing my post with another forum member in a undermining and patronising way. I never once stated i agreed with breeding pig when there is so many in rescues and i will state one more time that the abby baby i had off this lady was a rescue he was dumped in her garden in a cardboard box. All i said was the lady also has a hobby of showing pigs and so breeds show stock, rexes in rescue centres will not meet show standards 100%. I to do not agree with breeding or showing of my pigs when there are pigs in rescue centres desperate for homes. I wasnt forcing breeding on anyone as i understand this forum is rescue based my original post was asking for advice on boar issues, i had to describe all the circumstances and situation in order to give forum members a clear view of the situation in order for them to offer me advice . Instead i recieve a back lash of comments basically 'having a go at me' for mentioning breeder and rescue in the same sentence. How else could i describe the lady she take in and rehomes unwanted pigs paying for feed and housing and vet bills and she also breeds and shows rexes? So she does breed and rescue. That is all i was trying to say i was not being defensive i did not end my posts sarcastically or with simples so no i am not the one being defensive. The sheer fact soda pops that you brought up the prior altercation regarding yogurt drops proves to me you have an issue with me and so i would appreciate it if you did not comment on my posts and i will do the same for you. You have a right to say what you think just as much as i do, and other members do i picked out and quoted your posts as the wording was offensive patronising and just not friendly. Even another member commented on one of your posts on this thread. Please leave it be now i joined this forum for advice not for an argument
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I walked away from this thread 6 days ago and yet the posts mentioning my name are bought up and ripped to shreds again - i have never once made comments about you or how you come across.

You bought up certain topics within your post replies and i responded - on a public forum i do not have to agree with what everyone says - i have a right to say i disagree with you - what you do with that information is up to you. I was not the only person to make comment on your posts - yet I'm the only one you have singled out.

I'm 32yrs years old - i can get a long with everyone i meet - i rarely come across people i cannot get along with. i have met several members off this forum and each will tell you that i am very easy to talk to - they dont don't spend 5hrs at my home talking to me if I'm patronising, un-friendly and undermining!

I am certainly not going to avoid your threads just in case i say something you dont like - if i have an opinion i will post it! i would think that we are adult enough to have a difference of opinion, have our say and then move on - it's posts like this telling me that you are going to stay away from my threads and that i should do the same that give the forum a bad name.

I'm not going to be part of a forum whereby i have to tread on egg shells and avoid certain people's posts - that would defeat the object of me being part of a public forum!

This is a friendly forum that ive been a part of for a few years and will continue to be a part of regardless....

Each of my posts are carefully thought out and i spend a lot of time re-editing them to make sure i do not offend, however i can not appologuise for the way my posts are read by the person reading them!
 
Reading all this I am getting quite nervous! one of my pigs had babies a year or so back which was my choice.. does this mean I'm not allowed on here?! I have no guinea rescues to help out near me that I know of.. and the RSCPA had no guineas at all! I've rescued a guinea as well but I didn't realise how defensive people got. I also don't agree with people which INbreed and mass produce pigs that way, I think it's disgusting, but I don't want to be frowned upon because one of my pigs had beautiful babies! :...?/
 
Miss Figs Pigs said:
Reading all this I am getting quite nervous! one of my pigs had babies a year or so back which was my choice.. does this mean I'm not allowed on here?! I have no guinea rescues to help out near me that I know of.. and the RSCPA had no guineas at all! I've rescued a guinea as well but I didn't realise how defensive people got. I also don't agree with people which INbreed and mass produce pigs that way, I think it's disgusting, but I don't want to be frowned upon because one of my pigs had beautiful babies! :...?/
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Not at all - the debate here was a breeder being classed as a rescue - everyone is allowed to post on this forum as long as the forum rules are followed and that intentional breeding/showing is not discussed.

The forum has a very strong rescue ethos - yes it's recognised that not all people can/have the ability to rescue, but that doesn't mean they are not welcome here....

This thread is one out of hundreds where opinions got a little heated - this forum is a very friendly place to be - dont let this one thread put you off sticking around - this type of debate doesn't happen too often thankfully!
 
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ahh okay thats cool then thanks for that :) I could never breed and sell, I'd worry too much about the home they were going to and wouldn't be able to part with them. I let my lady have babies knowing I would keep them all and give them the lovely home they have :)
 
SODAPOPS please read my other thread apologising for debates such as this and apologising for any offence caused. i would like to end this thread with apologies,
 
I think this thread has run its course so I am now closing it. Please PM me if you have any queries.
 
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