2 Girls Piggies Need Help.

Hello everybody.
Been ages and lots has happened but settling down now. Me Mrs Dougal won a hairy piggie comp and I'm good.


20190225_210814.webp20190423_001200.webpDaddy says I need hair cut because me and Florence are going to a new home Wed am
Some piggies called Chloe and Heidi live there.
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We heard them and hope we all become friends. (daddy does)
Keep Happy all. :luv:
 
Betsy said:
Hope the bonding goes well Dave! Have you been swapping stuff over so that they all get used to their different scents?
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no but will do now. Am I right to clean the whole set up or part of it.
I'm going to use some c c for a while. did it a month ago and Heidi battered it down. . They meet and started sniffing but I was not ready. Now I am
 
Good luck. Just have the intros done on completely neutral territory (eg a run) and if all goes ok transfer them into a completely clean and rearranged c and c. But better have plan B ready in case they don’t hit it off.
 
VickiA said:
Good luck. Just have the intros done on completely neutral territory (eg a run) and if all goes ok transfer them into a completely clean and rearranged c and c. But better have plan B ready in case they don’t hit it off.
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You beat me to it Vicky. I was going to advise the same thing!
 
Countdown It's here. Big clean and lots new clean covers. I'm using @Flutterby blankets as all 4 have in the past and hopin her piggie skill rubs off. x20190424_121023.webp
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c and c back.
Heidi and Chloe in top
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Put a c c across and Mrs Dougal Florence bottom 1556106434114-1399051606.webp
been hour or so and all 4 are buzzing talking and I've missed some great photos Mrs Dougal and Heidi kisses through c+c. Florence stood alone with a beautiful squeeeeeek that I'm no expert but was joy.
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I know photo could be better but when I move all scatter . .
All munching away and keep talking.
I'm very very chuffed so far.
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Was going to leave them for a day.
Nope signs good and I've put them together
Heidi as expected told Mrs Dougal she's boss and it's a bit up and down. Chloe is watching and well I'm shocked at this Florence is in a cube without a care after 3 months with one not once going into it.
All 4 keep walkin and bumping into other and in piggie voice saying (opps sorry)
 
Sadness. I've had to separate them. It was getting very tense. very. I know perhaps should left them but honestly was hard to see loved piggie gettin chased etc. Mrs Dougal was the victim even Chloe was gettin in on the act it was gettin worse every 5 mins. Florence was fine. x
I'm not givin up shall read up on it again and decided.
I took the divide down far too early and as read should given all 4 piggies more time to meet and greet through bars.
Stupid David.
 
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When we bonded Georgie with the girls there was a lot of chasing around and loud squeaking. It is all part of them working out the hierarchy. We left them in the bonding pen overnight before moving them into the clean cage. It wasn't easy to watch but unless blood is drawn you probably just need to leave them to work it out.
 
YvonneBlue said:
When we bonded Georgie with the girls there was a lot of chasing around and loud squeaking. It is all part of them working out the hierarchy. We left them in the bonding pen overnight before moving them into the clean cage. It wasn't easy to watch but unless blood is drawn you probably just need to leave them to work it out.
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I stupidly put them together too early. can't belive I did after all I've read. tho I knew best but I didn't. All 4 now asleep . .
 
I’ll be honest. I’ve bonded loads of piggies and 2 pairs of mature sows is a difficult bond. In each pair there will be a top sow. Those 2 top sows can be very tricky. I haven’t met Florence and Mrs dougal but I have met Heidi and Chloe, and Heidi is a very dominant ( but gorgeous) sow.
 
VickiA said:
I’ll be honest. I’ve bonded loads of piggies and 2 pairs of mature sows is a difficult bond. In each pair there will be a top sow. Those 2 top sows can be very tricky. I haven’t met Florence and Mrs dougal but I have met Heidi and Chloe, and Heidi is a very dominant ( but gorgeous) sow.
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She is but Mrs Dougal is also . .. Vicki I've boobed as should let them see each before I put them together. signs were good and expected Heidi and Mrs Dougal to sort it. but Chloe backed up Heidi and Mrs Dougal would not back off.
I hope not to upset them as all 4 are beautiful and special. Florence was great and ate good and was happy to watch.
I need to read about age. x
 
Even allowing to see through the divider is no guarantee of success David. They can be very happy living alongside each other but still not want to live together.
From what you describe Florence would accept 4th position. If Chloe was involved in scuffles with Mrs Dougal as well as Heidi then it sounds like she wouldn’t want to give up her 2nd place to Mrs D even if Heidi and Mrs D worked it out.
Depending on what you saw in terms of full on aggression or just a dominance scuffle I would be wary of further intro unless it was in an empty neutral bonding pen. A cluttered cage with houses is never a good idea. Have you read the bonding guides?
I will tag @Wiebke
 
I thank you Vicki for taking time and i will now put all into a neutral ares next.
It does look cluttered but they have room.
This am all piggies were ok and again eating and looking close to each other none showing signs of distress etc.
Yesterday I stupidly was far too quick at removing the divide. 1 hour
Yes read threads about bonding and will take time etc. x
 
David Piggie Lover said:
I thank you Vicki for taking time and i will now put all into a neutral ares next.
It does look cluttered but they have room.
This am all piggies were ok and again eating and looking close to each other none showing signs of distress etc.
Yesterday I stupidly was far too quick at removing the divide. 1 hour
Yes read threads about bonding and will take time etc. x
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Don't be too hard on yourself David - we have all made mistakes when trying to bond, and it is so easy to misjudge a situation.
You separated them before anyone was hurt and that is the main thing.
 
Swissgreys said:
Don't be too hard on yourself David - we have all made mistakes when trying to bond, and it is so easy to misjudge a situation.
You separated them before anyone was hurt and that is the main thing.
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Every bonding is different and has its own dynamics due to the personalities involved. Unfortunately merging pairs or small groups is very tricky and often fails in my experiences. I have t-shirts falling out of my stuffed cupboard on that score! :(
 
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