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Bladder sludge

furryfriends (TEAS) said:
It just seems strange in nearly 20 years of piggy keeping that I’ve never had any bladder issues, by feeding in this way. My vet says in the wild they’d eat a much wetter diet than we typically feed, as they’d eat a lot of vegetation.
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i agree! i’m really stressing
 
so i’ve decided to follow vets advice today, no grass (hoping one day without wont do harm) and phone up tomorrow and just say i am concerned about dellas water intake and obviously wanting to increase water to help with the sludge, how do i ask if removing leafy greens and grass is definitely the right thing to do without sounding like I'm questioning her?
 
piggiemummy03x said:
so i’ve decided to follow vets advice today, no grass (hoping one day without wont do harm) and phone up tomorrow and just say i am concerned about dellas water intake and obviously wanting to increase water to help with the sludge, how do i ask if removing leafy greens and grass is definitely the right thing to do without sounding like I'm questioning her?
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Just say you’ve been doing some research and you’ve seen that some vets are suggesting upping the grass and leafy veg/salad intake, with good results. John Chitty talks about it in the webinar. He’s a very well known exotic vet.
 
furryfriends (TEAS) said:
Just say you’ve been doing some research and you’ve seen that some vets are suggesting upping the grass and leafy veg/salad intake, with good results. John Chitty talks about it in the webinar. He’s a very well known exotic vet.
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thanks so much! will they be okay going without today?
 
piggiemummy03x said:
thanks so much! will they be okay going without today?
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Yes, if you feel more comfortable waiting until you’ve spoken to your vet. Also, animals are very good at picking up on our anxiety and stress can play a big part in bladder issues, so try and walk away from the cage and find something else to do, to try and reduce your stress levels xx
 
furryfriends (TEAS) said:
Yes, if you feel more comfortable waiting until you’ve spoken to your vet. Also, animals are very good at picking up on our anxiety and stress can play a big part in bladder issues, so try and walk away from the cage and find something else to do, to try and reduce your stress levels xx
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thankyou, i just don’t want to go against her word, currently listening to this webinar by john chitty.. i feel like a monster, i thought bringing them in was better but now i feel like everything i’ve done for my babies is wrong😭😭😭😭 i know i feel like my anxiety is causing dellas problems and i feel like such a bad mummy to them i dont know what to do anymore😭
 
piggiemummy03x said:
thankyou, i just don’t want to go against her word, currently listening to this webinar by john chitty.. i feel like a monster, i thought bringing them in was better but now i feel like everything i’ve done for my babies is wrong😭😭😭😭 i know i feel like my anxiety is causing dellas problems and i feel like such a bad mummy to them i dont know what to do anymore😭
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You’re a very caring owner trying to do right by your little ones! Please don’t doubt yourself! John Chitty explains how to best keep piggies indoors! xx
 
piggiemummy03x said:
vet has suggested to cut out leafy greens,
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I think this might be a bit of a misunderstanding...
Lots of vets will give advice for a piggy with bladder issues but I think he perhaps meant dark green leafy veg like kale and spinach. This is very common vet advice - these dark veg are among the highest in calcium. I don't really see how grass - which is essentially hay with added water - is going to be a problem. Or lettuce - again essentially water. I've not been advised to avoid these before. If she's an IC piggy I don't know if they're looking at trigger foods (not something I know about) but I bet it was just the dark green veg and he maybe forgot to specify. I bet if you phone or mail them that's what they'll say.
 
furryfriends (TEAS) said:
You’re a very caring owner trying to do right by your little ones! Please don’t doubt yourself! John Chitty explains how to best keep piggies indoors! xx
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i honestly feel awful, i love my girls so much but i am now questioning everything i have ever done for them.. i honestly feel soso bad, i haven’t got to that bit yet i don’t think, i’m going to follow everything he says, i just want whats best for my babies!
 
Free Ranger said:
I think this might be a bit of a misunderstanding...
Lots of vets will give advice for a piggy with bladder issues but I think he perhaps meant dark green leafy veg like kale and spinach. This is very common vet advice - these dark veg are among the highest in calcium. I don't really see how grass - which is essentially hay with added water - is going to be a problem. Or lettuce - again essentially water. I've not been advised to avoid these before. If she's an IC piggy I don't know if they're looking at trigger foods (not something I know about) but I bet it was just the dark green veg and he maybe forgot to specify. I bet if you phone or mail them that's what they'll say.
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going to phone up tomorrow and ask! i thought it may be what you say about trigger foods as nothing else seems to be working!
 
piggiemummy03x said:
oh my gosh, the girls are in our room too but della (touch wood) has never woke us! bless her heart they must be so loud!

ooo i might start increasing how much cucumber we give, slowly of course checking for wet poos!
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It is really upsetting. I didn't get a chance to speak to the vet this afternoon, annoyed with myself for not remembering to ask about cartophen this morning while I was there. But I have the gabapentin. I'm going to email my vet start of next week to ask about the injections.

In regards to the grass/leafy veg. I do think it's about trigger foods. I've read (can't remember where mind) that for some pigs grass and leafy veg can make IC worse.
 
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