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Blood in Urine - Post op update

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My dad took Buttercup to the vets this morning as I had to work. As soon as I got to work the vet phoned me to say they had done the x-ray without an anaesthetic and she could see one stone which she had practically passed. She said it was very close to the vulva and she could actually see it. She said they would need to give Buttercup an anaesthetic to get it out but it would only probably take a couple of minutes and they would try and push it out or else they might have to make a very small incision. Anyhow the nurse phoned me back after the op and said Buttercup was awake and very chirpy and had come round very fast after the anaesthetic. I have just got home and I have 5 stones in total all of which Buttercup was in the process of passing so they didn't have to go into the bladder to get them out. The first stone is about 5mm in size. After that all the other stones were very small and she probably would have passed them eventually herself. The vet could see no more stones. I have some Metacam to give her and I have been told to finish the Baytril that I currently have and need to take Buttercup for her checkup on Thursday or Friday. I cannot tell you how relieved I am. She hasn't touched her greens yet but she has been nibbling hay since she got home and she gave me some licks.

Can I just say thank you to everyone who offered advice and comforting words yesterday when I was panicking like mad, it really does mean a lot to speak to people who have gone through the same thing. If I can manage to work out how to post a photo I will take a picture of the stones that were removed.

Buttercup sends you all little licks.

Joy xx:)
 
I'm so relieved for you. It sounds as though your vets practise know their stuff.. I'm sure she will come on fine now. Just keep an eye on her eating and drinking but she sounds like she is doing great. Buttercup couldnt be in better hands with the care you are giving her and when shes up to it, it would be nice to see pigtures.
 
I have just been to Tesco and got some Finest Tenderstem Brocolli and Buttercup is tucking into the brocoli as we speak and so is Robbie my other guinea pig and my rabbit Honey. Spoilt rotten they are.

Joy xx
 
Buttercup hasn't eaten much tonight, she has been nibbling hay and the odd leaf. Getting the Metacam into her was a nightmare because the syringe they give you is so stupid and the stuff doesn't come out. Can you believe it, in the end I put it on my finger and she just licked it off...I thought she would run a mile once she had a sniff of it lol. I am really hoping that she picks up soon, she needs to eat a decent amount of food. She has her nuggets and lots of veg so she can take her pick. I am hoping it is just the side effects of the anaesthetic and that she feels better tomorrow although I am sure her back end will be sore for a few days.

Joy xx
 
Can you mash down some of her pellets and mix with some water and syringe feed her some of this, ( Unless you have critical care sachets). After my piggie had his general anaesthetic I fed him some critical care every hour just to keep his system moving. Can you get any grass or dandelion leaves as these would be a tasty snack for Buttercup. It takes a while to fully come round from the anaesthetice and Buttercup may still be a bit groggy. She may not have a great appetitie but as long as she hasnt stopped eating altogether should be ok. Let me know how she doing
 
Yes I do have Critical Care, I mix this with organic vegetable baby food and she has taken a little of it and I did syringe her a little of that also, she will usually take that straight off the spoon. I think she is just feeling a little off, she picks up a leaf, eats half of it and then drops it as though she can't be bothered. I will let you know how she gets on.



Joy xx
 
Sending healing wheeeeks and loves from us all xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xx>>>xx>>>xx>>>xx>>>
You've done really well, make sure she's got all the hay, pellets and water i'm sure once she's feeling better in the morning (those drugs do take it out of them ) she'll want her veggies too :)
 
Sorry - I have been looking at your thread, but with guests in the house, I didn't get around to answer.

I am so glad for you that Buttercup didn't need a big operation! You will see that she'll pick up soon, either today or tomorrow, and will be much the better for it! No wonder did she go off food with that stone stuck in her urethra!

Wishing you all the best!

PS: It might be worth for you to have a good read through the Calcium : Phosphor - ratio thread by CCC4 at the top of the food section. It's based on the recommendations in the guinealynx health website and may help to prevent/slow down the formation of another stone in Buttercup.
 
Thanks for your replies. I have just got back from work, mum and dad have been at home all day with Buttercup and they got her some lovely grass and dandelion leaves and she has had a few of them. I will keep an eye on her this evening to see how she is, she's eating hay at the moment. I was up before 6 this morning giving her some Critical Care in baby food to start her off and I have just seen her have a drink so that's is ok. I will keep you all updated.

Joy xx
 
If she's eating, she's OK! She'll perk up with every day now...
 
I am so glad to hear the operation went well and Buttercup is recovering, huge healing wheeks from everyone here. Might be worth checking out the ratewatchers diet to help prevent further stones forming, Chrissy at gorgeous guineas also had a guinea with bladder stones so it is worth checking out the page on her site. I found it very useful. Good luck toyou both and wishing Buttercup a good recovery.
 
Hi, I was really worried because she was still hardly eating yesterday. I have been syringe feeding as much as I can but I am at work all day so evening and early mornings I have been very busy but mum and dad have been trying her with grass and dandelions during the day. She is going back to the vet tomorrow for her check up but luckily today she has eaten a bit more and was even wanting a treat earlier because she started biting the bars when I went in to see her which is a good sign. I gave her a little treat because she has been suffering poor thing and I thought she deserved one for being a good girl. Fingers crossed she continues to improve. I am still going to give her some syringe food to make sure that she continues on the right track until I know she is eating enough. I will have a good chat with the vet tomorrow and see what they say.

Joy xx
 
Good luck at the vets. Buttercup might still be feeling the effects of the anaesthetic and that could be why she not quite herself. Keep watching over your little princess and let us know how you get on..
 
Thanks everyone. She's definitely eaten more today I just hope it continues. I syringe fed her a little food earlier and then she ate a few leaves on her own and tonight when it was feeding time she was waiting with her feet on her food bowl, she didn't eat loads but it's all good signs. She still has a little squeak sometimes when she goes for a wee or poo but perhaps she just needs some antibiotics as we haven't had any since the op. I am convinced she is a little constipated because it seems like she is straining sometimes but then she hasn't been eating much. I am hoping that as she is eating more now that will improve, I am sure the anaesthetic and antibiotics she was on before her op contributed to this constipation though but she is still going, that's the main thing.

I will let you know what happens at the vets tomorrow.

Joy xx
 
Can you try some probiotic to stimulate her appetite? I hope all goes well with the recovery; it takes a few days for everything to settle down!

Keeping my fingers crossed!
 
I am syringe feeding her Science Recovery mixed with organic baby food inbetween meals. She hasn't eaten as many leaves today but she is very chirpy. The vet is very happy with her, she has lost a little weight so we just need to concentrate on getting weight on her now. She is pooping normally now again and drinking plenty of water, if only she would eat like she used to.

Joy xx
 
I haven't yet posted on this thread but have been following it!
Am really glad your piggie is getting better and got the all clear from the vet - such good news for you and a massive relief i imagine! Although under completely different circumstances my piggie is sick to and it is so worrying seeing them loose so much weight and not eat anything. Dont think i have ever cried so much this week, watching her be so ill and possibly be put to sleep. Back at the vets again tomorrow! 5th time this week, so am thinking i should just camp there!
Good luck with getting your piggy back to full health
Jenny x
 
Thanks very much, I hope your little piggy gets well very soon.

It is really like a rollercoaster ride, one day is good and then the next bad. I have had to phone the vet today again cos Buttercup has blood in her urine still and was squeaking again when she was going to the loo and again she is hardly eating, I am having to syring feed her. The vet has given us some stronger pain relief which can make her dozy and has also given us some antibiotics at 0.4ml twice daily which I have started her on. I don't know if this is just another infection or whether she still has some stones that she is trying to pass. The vets said they couldn't see or feel anymore but that if she did have any they would be very small and she could pass them herself. The new pain relief has stopped her squeaking when she goes to the loo, I think we haven't seen the end of this yet though.

I know exactly how you feel Jenny, I have been in tears many times thinking that I was going to lose Buttercup and really it is still a possibility if we cannot get to the bottom of what is happening. She is still very chirpy thankfully, when I syringe feed her (which she doesn't like) she takes it out on her bed by biting the side and pulling it about, she is funny to watch but she gives me lots of licks too which is nice.

I am keeping everything crossed that perhaps this is just an infection/cystitis but knowing my luck it won't be. I will keep you all updated, please send healing thoughts our way.

Joy xx
 
Buttercup is still on Bayril. I did ask about Septrin but she said they only prescribe it for gut problems.
 
Was just syringe feeding Buttercup when I had to see my brother out so took Buttercup with me and we sat on the grass and she was eating it like a right trooper but unfortunately it started to rain so we're going out again tomorrow so she can get her fill lol. That's a bonus if she continues to eat like she just was.

She is still passing blood and I think the painkiller she had earlier today is wearing off a bit but she is due some more tonight.

Joy xx
 
Right, I have had enough, I am speaking to the vets tomorrow. Poor Buttercup is squeaking so much when passing urine and it is bright red again just like it was before the op. I am convinced she has another stone(s) which they didn't see. They said they couldn't see or feel anymore but that if she did have some they would be small and she could pass them herself. When she is going for a wee she is really straining and lifting her back legs up like she is trying to push something out, I try and comfort her but this is with the stronger painkillers they gave her on Saturday which is morphine based, it doesn't work. I am at my wits end syringe feeding her, luckily she is eating a bit of grass too but it is not enough. I know having another op would not be good for her but she cannot go on living like this, I should think the pain would kill her in the end. I am going to tell the vets they cannot just throw antibiotics and painkillers at the problem and that they need to do something. In fact I am ringing the emergency vet now because she is straining again and the poor little thing is in pain...I am so angry now.

Joy xx
 
Poor Buttercup and poor you :( You are doing exactly the right thing and I would be angry too. It is really frustrating when we see our piggies in pain and there isn't a lot we can do about it :( When Connie was having her problems, she strained and lifted her back legs up too so I know how heartbreaking it is to watch :( Let us know what the vet says xx
 
Ok, I have spoken to the emergency vet, she said that whilst the Vetergesic painkiller she is on is a good painkiller (not) it isn't a anti inflammatory so maybe we should try her on steroids. If that was the case and she needed an anti inflammatory why haven't they given it to her previously. I told her I didn't want to keep chucking drugs at the problem and would rather pay to have another x-ray so Buttercup is going back tomorrow to be reassessed by Becky the vet who did the op last week and she is the exotics specialist. I explained that although I knew I wasn't a vet and cannot see what is going on inside to me it seems as though she is trying to push something out, she is doing exactly the same as she did before the last op. Obviously if she does need other drugs I am more than willing to pay for them but I want them to know for sure that she doesn't have more stones, no amount of drugs will make them go away. I could scream at them. Unfortunately I have to work tomorrow so my brilliant mum and dad are dropping Buttercup off in the morning. Oh and another thing, she said we will give her an anaesthetic to do the xray and I said, no you won't because she doesn't need an anaesthetic for an xray, she is very good and will just sit wherever you put her. That told her. Now let me scream.....Arrrrggghhhhh!

Sorry for ranting on, I am sure some of you will know exactly how I am feeling right now.

Joy xx
 
Give your pig a Buscopan tablet, crushed and added to water. It is not a pain-killer however it will relieve the muscle spasms which cause the pain.
Cranberry juice will also help ease the discomfort she is experiencing.
 
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