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Bonding male boar with females

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Thank you! Hopefully staying side by side will help for a couple of days. The alpha pig and the male have interacted through the bars but she will still teeth chatter and hiss and he will rumble strut
 
Hi everyone!

Long time no post! So whats happened is I’ve got four girls who are bonded really well. Today I have adapted a neutered boar who is around 2 years old (older than them). Due to covid we were unable to have any bonding sessions. From 9am today until 2pm we kept them separated with a grid between them so they could socialise etc. That was completely fine, no aggression etc. We decided to remove the barrier around 3pm and all was fine for about 10 minutes and then the teeth chattering, rumble strutting occurred. The main issue is between the alpha female and the male. Everyone else is fine and tends to stay out. There have been physical altercations but only chasing and nipping, no blood has been drawn. There is mainly moaning now all is okay and then it gets hectic. We think she needs to accept him (if she does) and that is the problem. He does seem a little dominant but only when she is. It is still early days and we will probably have to keep them separate tonight/ rest of this week as we are all working. Any suggestions?
Thought I’d give an update. Whenever he comes out of his hideys they all run away and when him and the alpha pig get close there is lots of hissing through the bars, rumble strutt and chatter
 
Thought I’d give an update. Whenever he comes out of his hideys they all run away and when him and the alpha pig get close there is lots of hissing through the bars, rumble strutt and chatter
We think some issues may be where they are a strongly bonded group and accepting him may be tricky. He is a really relaxed guy, but most of the problems stem from the alpha male. Sometimes when he comes out he does a lot of rumble strutting and normal dominance for a male, which maybe they are not use to
 
We think some issues may be where they are a strongly bonded group and accepting him may be tricky. He is a really relaxed guy, but most of the problems stem from the alpha male. Sometimes when he comes out he does a lot of rumble strutting and normal dominance for a male, which maybe they are not use to
I can’t upload a video but basically this
 

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Lying near the divider is territory marking and not a good sign as some think.
 
Lying near the divider is territory marking and not a good sign as some think.
Oh yeah I’m aware of that. There’s been some improvement. There’s no teeth chatter now, both with lie near and even the rest of the heard, the alpha pig and him are interacting through the bars and whenever he does his little rumble strutt she mainly ignores it now. Whenever I do anything (food etc) I always start with them first a
 
With a group bonding, the hierarchy between the top 2 piggies is always the first hurdle to overcome. It sounds as though your neutered male and alpha sow are going to have to work it out between them. Then every other pig has to work out where they come in the group. A group bonding can take a lot of time and can be very lively with even closely bonded piggies kicking off as things get sorted.

I would definitely plan to have perhaps a whole day and night in the bonding pen if you can manage it before trying to transfer them to their cage. Plenty of open space, hay and regular small distractions with veggies to share. Nothing and nowhere anyone can get trapped. If you put beds in please put in one for each piggy and make sure it is a cuddle cup or donut shaped bed rather than a house with entrances and exits.

If you can take a video and upload to youtube and then share the link here we can see how they interact when you introduce them without the barrier. Bonding is definitely not for the faint hearted.
 
With a group bonding, the hierarchy between the top 2 piggies is always the first hurdle to overcome. It sounds as though your neutered male and alpha sow are going to have to work it out between them. Then every other pig has to work out where they come in the group. A group bonding can take a lot of time and can be very lively with even closely bonded piggies kicking off as things get sorted.

I would definitely plan to have perhaps a whole day and night in the bonding pen if you can manage it before trying to transfer them to their cage. Plenty of open space, hay and regular small distractions with veggies to share. Nothing and nowhere anyone can get trapped. If you put beds in please put in one for each piggy and make sure it is a cuddle cup or donut shaped bed rather than a house with entrances and exits.

If you can take a video and upload to youtube and then share the link here we can see how they interact when you introduce them without the barrier. Bonding is definitely not for the faint hearted.
Thank you!

We tried the first time and it failed, but we plan to try again on the weekend so fingers crossed.

They are currently in a cage at the moment with a divider just to calm things and get use to everything before we try again. Like I said in my comment above, behaviour has definitely improved and is a lot calmer now with more neutral interactions and less agression.

I don’t actually have any cuddle cups, where can I get them from?
 
Thank you!

We tried the first time and it failed, but we plan to try again on the weekend so fingers crossed.

They are currently in a cage at the moment with a divider just to calm things and get use to everything before we try again. Like I said in my comment above, behaviour has definitely improved and is a lot calmer now with more neutral interactions and less agression.

I don’t actually have any cuddle cups, where can I get them from?

I've bought mine from numerous sellers on Ebay/Etsy/Facebook over the years. @Bill & Ted makes some and auctions for charity, @artcasper also makes them
YouTube has tutorials on making them. Here's a link to a thread where various sellers are identified. Members recommended UK and US sites for fleece cage liners and accessories
 
With a group bonding, the hierarchy between the top 2 piggies is always the first hurdle to overcome. It sounds as though your neutered male and alpha sow are going to have to work it out between them. Then every other pig has to work out where they come in the group. A group bonding can take a lot of time and can be very lively with even closely bonded piggies kicking off as things get sorted.

I would definitely plan to have perhaps a whole day and night in the bonding pen if you can manage it before trying to transfer them to their cage. Plenty of open space, hay and regular small distractions with veggies to share. Nothing and nowhere anyone can get trapped. If you put beds in please put in one for each piggy and make sure it is a cuddle cup or donut shaped bed rather than a house with entrances and exits.

If you can take a video and upload to youtube and then share the link here we can see how they interact when you introduce them without the barrier. Bonding is definitely not for the faint hearted.
I think things have improved. There is no agression now and whenever they come up to the bars and he starts she just ignores it. He keeps rumble strutting up and down the bars and pop Corning but I think that’s just normal boar behaviour. The other piggies mainly ignore him
 
I think things have improved. There is no agression now and whenever they come up to the bars and he starts she just ignores it. He keeps rumble strutting up and down the bars and pop Corning but I think that’s just normal boar behaviour. The other piggies mainly ignore him
The youngest piggies just ignore him, the alpha pig ignores him and sometimes does a whining sound but the next pig down has done a whining sound but she mainly ignores him or runs away
 
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