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Yasmin Marie

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So all was going well being a new Piggie Mum and I spoiled my boys rotten.
It wasn't to long after they started maturing *ahem* that we started having problems.
I noticed that they weren't sleeping together any more, thought it could be too warm.
Then they started fighting more and chattering a lot and chasing each other.
When on a trip to the vets I asked for some advice and she said it can happen with boys when they become teenagers and to keep an eye on it.
I was devastated at the thought of spiltting them up, but needs must.
You can see on the attached picture of Tyrion he was getting beat up by Lupin and had little cuts all over him.
It was so awful but the vet advised once I had split them up it would be for good.
The final straw came when I was getting them out of their hutch to go to the vets and Lupin had near enough ripped Tyrions ear off on the bottom!
I felt so awful and the worse Piggie Mum. Vet said it was a bad one but not the worse that she had seen.
This is when I separated them, the outdoor cage was ok as it was a double tier one so it just got boarded up where the run was.
You could see that Tyrion was always desperate to get to Lupin and you could see that he was lonely.
This is when we started the process of getting them some girlfriends!
So it wasn't all bad but just wanted to share to make other new piggie mums aware, even though they were bought from Pets At Home and in the same pen and advised they will be fine together,
It is never a guarantee. Especially when they are evidently from different litters, something I was too naive to even notice!
But I love my boys no matter what and will do anything for them so got them some beautiful ladies who i formally introduce in a new post!
Thanks :) xx10364275_10203388265340364_1282075963_o.jpg10706428_10204317272484962_82837706_n.jpg10959281_10206061279313762_1680967153_n.jpg
 

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Poor lads, sorry they have fallen out but you've done your best for them. I hope that their girlfriend journey goes well! :)
 

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I still look at these pictures and feel bad! Its going really well thanks! I will post a new thread with them in! Girls are so much more different! :)
 

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Glad it's going well. Are you getting the boys neutered?
 

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Hi!

I am very sorry about your distress. It doesn't matter wether boars are are related or not, if they are not carefully bonded as to character compatibility, then they are likely to clash; especially shop boars that are just chucked together and are only sold for looks. Young boars go through a hormonal phase between 4-14 months old which is putting their bond under real stress. Lack of space can acerbate any issues. You were right to separate. Sadly for you, pet shops are not a good place to get bonded boars or competent advice from. :(

There are several good guinea pig rescues in Yorkshire that allow to you to bring your boys to date suitable companions under expert supervision at the rescue; that way, you come home only with a new friend if their has been success. Alternatively, you can think about having them neutered, so they can live with a girl each after a suitable full 6 weeks post op safety wait so they 100% to go with girls. Cross gender bondings are the most stable, but they very much hinge on finding either a general vet with lots of experience in piggy neutering or a specialist with practice in small in furry operations in order to minimise the otherwise rather high risk of post operation complications. I would also recommend to date any sows at one of our recommended rescues, so you can be sure that initial accpetance happens and that any sows are healthy and guaranteed not pregnant.

https://www.theguineapigforum.co.uk/threads/boars-a-guide-to-successful-companionship.76162/
https://www.theguineapigforum.co.uk/threads/dominance-behaviours-in-guinea-pigs.28949/
https://www.theguineapigforum.co.uk/pages/guinea-pig-rescue-locator/
https://www.theguineapigforum.co.uk/pages/guinea-pig-vet-locator/

PS: I am moving your thread from the photo section to the behaviour section.
 

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Hi!

I am very sorry about your distress. It doesn't matter wether boars are are related or not, if they are not carefully bonded as to character compatibility, then they are likely to clash; especially shop boars that are just chucked together and are only sold for looks. Young boars go through a hormonal phase between 4-14 months old which is putting their bond under real stress. Lack of space can acerbate any issues. You were right to separate. Sadly for you, pet shops are not a good place to get bonded boars or competent advice from. :(

There are several good guinea pig rescues in Yorkshire that allow to you to bring your boys to date suitable companions under expert supervision at the rescue; that way, you come home only with a new friend if their has been success. Alternatively, you can think about having them neutered, so they can live with a girl each after a suitable full 6 weeks post op safety wait so they 100% to go with girls. Cross gender bondings are the most stable, but they very much hinge on finding either a general vet with lots of experience in piggy neutering or a specialist with practice in small in furry operations in order to minimise the otherwise rather high risk of post operation complications. I would also recommend to date any sows at one of our recommended rescues, so you can be sure that initial accpetance happens and that any sows are healthy and guaranteed not pregnant.

https://www.theguineapigforum.co.uk/threads/boars-a-guide-to-successful-companionship.76162/
https://www.theguineapigforum.co.uk/threads/dominance-behaviours-in-guinea-pigs.28949/
https://www.theguineapigforum.co.uk/pages/guinea-pig-rescue-locator/
https://www.theguineapigforum.co.uk/pages/guinea-pig-vet-locator/

PS: I am moving your thread from the photo section to the behaviour section.


Thanks so much for the advice! The vet that I see is wonderful and is a guinea pig breeder so I got my girls from her, so far so good with them all!
I was so so nervous for their operation but the vets I used were just AMAZING! They sent me pictures of them both as soon as they came round with them munching on the pack lunch I had made them! I'll post a new thread about the girls and also the boys op. Also thank you for moving my post!
 

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Glad that all has gone well for your boys and that they are happy again! Our behaviour section is sadly littered with fallen-out shop or breeder boys...

PS: Please be aware that we are a pro-rescue non-breeding forum. Here is our forum stance re. intentional breeding, so you can avoid getting into any unintended awkward situations on here and very much enjoy our friendly community. ;)
https://www.theguineapigforum.co.uk/pages/terms-and-rules/
https://www.theguineapigforum.co.uk/threads/why-are-guinea-shows-looked-down-upon-on-here.118936/#post-1612979
 
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