COVID-19 Coronavirus

On the plus side all the meetings and decisions can be made by them through conference calls, video conferencing etc so he will still be able to work but I do feel for his partner who is pregnant and therefore high risk. It must be a real worry for both of them
 
Well my hubby's work colleague has returned from holiday and has been blue lighted to hospital with respiratory problems. He has asthma so is more at risk. It's not confirmed as Covid-19 yet but it's unlikely to be anything else. Luckily hubby hasn't been in the office for over 3 weeks now
 
Saw earlier that there was a conspiracy theory going around about a Japanese TV show from a few years ago (season 10 of something I can't remember) featuring a coronavirus outbreak, dad showed it to me, his colleagues were going a bit mental about it, had to explain there are a lot of coronaviruses, if this is just a small example of what's floating around on other platforms then it's rather depressing, I know we've already had the garlic cure, the bioweapon theory, the 5G theory (saw someone claiming that the body naturally releases viruses as part of an immune reaction to electromagnetic radiation wtf). It's sort of how we sometimes despair advice on the mainstream platforms in groups where the GP care advice is sometimes bonkers, but in this situation it's potentially quite dangerous.
 
The whole situation is a bit bonkers but everyone should remember that no-one could have predicted this even a few weeks ago... our most familiar coronavirus causes the common cold (along with some rhinoviruses) so how could anyone ever know this was the big one?
 
PigglePuggle said:
The whole situation is a bit bonkers but everyone should remember that no-one could have predicted this even a few weeks ago... our most familiar coronavirus causes the common cold (along with some rhinoviruses) so how could anyone ever know this was the big one?
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Looking back at my work calendar... 21st February I gave a lecture to our first year students on immunology and pathogens and I added a couple of slides on coronavirus because it was new and interesting and I remember asking my boss because his wife is a public health researcher and advisor on infectious diseases... and her advice based on the best epidemiology research available then was "tell them not to panic its just a bad cold". That's just 5 weeks ago!
 
The whole world just seems so surreal at the moment 😥 I keep seeing so many stories of healthy young people dieing and then lots of celebrities with mild cases, it doesn't make much sense it seems so completely random, and rather scary! We are almost completely out of food so daddy pig has to go to the supermarket tomorrow and also has to go to the vets to pick up medicine for princess and babybelle. Then back to hibernating 💖
 
Emx93 said:
The whole world just seems so surreal at the moment 😥 I keep seeing so many stories of healthy young people dieing and then lots of celebrities with mild cases, it doesn't make much sense it seems so completely random, and rather scary! We are almost completely out of food so daddy pig has to go to the supermarket tomorrow and also has to go to the vets to pick up medicine for princess and babybelle. Then back to hibernating 💖
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Not sure if it's helpful but due to statistical modelling telling us we're overdue a pandemic, NHS trusts have been putting together crisis plans for this for several years. It's been expected and so isn't random.
 
Black piggies said:
Not sure if it's helpful but due to statistical modelling telling us we're overdue a pandemic, NHS trusts have been putting together crisis plans for this for several years. It's been expected and so isn't random.
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I meant the virus itself, the way some people don't even know they've had it and other young healthy people can die- scary
 
Emx93 said:
I meant the virus itself, the way some people don't even know they've had it and other young healthy people can die- scary
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It is. The way I feel is that around the world random and unexpected terrible things happen to some poor people all the time, but they're not common and won't happen to me or my loved ones. I feel this could affect my parents but me and my son will be fine. Some of the headlines of the younger people affected, they had previous serious lung problems or issues. The rest seems terrible bad luck and isn't typical.
 
Black piggies said:
It is. The way I feel is that around the world random and unexpected terrible things happen to some poor people all the time, but they're not common and won't happen to me or my loved ones. I feel this could affect my parents but me and my son will be fine. Some of the headlines of the younger people affected, they had previous serious lung problems or issues. The rest seems terrible bad luck and isn't typical.
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I have fallen into the 1% on the scale of luck before, pregnant on the pill, pregnancy complications that affect 1% of pregnancies but then not reoccurred when the chance of reoccuring was around 90% so I've fallen on both sides, like i said I wouldn't want anyone in my family to take their chances with it 💖
 
Yes it makes sense to be careful. I don't believe that the young people who have died didn't have underlying health conditions. The headlines are misleading. The risk of our children dying is nowhere remotely close to 1%. That would be several kids from each school and that's not happening anywhere in the world.
 
Black piggies said:
Yes it makes sense to be careful. I don't believe that the young people who have died didn't have underlying health conditions. The headlines are misleading. The risk of our children dying is nowhere remotely close to 1%. That would be several kids from each school and that's not happening anywhere in the world.
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I know what you mean but it's still scary for everyone, because it's so random it really could happen to anyone 💖
 
I am constantly thinking I have COVID19 immediately after I scratch my nose, rub my eyes, and touch my face by habit.
I might be beyond just slightly paranoid because I wash my hands like 15 times a day.
 
I'm maybe good at deluding myself. I just don't think healthy people die of it, or it's so rare it's off my radar. I only want to self isolate to protect elderly and unwell.
 
It's likely that lots of people have had it with only relatively mild symptoms and don't know it, a lot of the press reporting is quite sensational in nature, a lot of the younger deaths were due to underlying conditions - I recall one where at the bottom of the article it finally mentioned they had leukemia. Some will be perfectly healthy with no underlying conditions, but more accurately it should be no known underlying conditions. There have also been quite a few 'with no underlying conditions' that realistically had a BMI over 30, which is just generally bad in a wide variety of ways. There will be some genuinely healthy younger people that have died due to the virus, but that's really just down to pure bad luck, like most cancers.

We're doing this to try and minimise the spread, and protect those vulnerable groups.

It's important to note that the way the UK records deaths includes deaths of patients that died positive of the virus, but may have died of another cause, a lot of our deaths are in hospitals, are 80+ and are usually in treatment for something else.

On a positive note though, there are likely to be fewer deaths from most causes, including traffic accidents, and as has been seen in other countries, deaths from other diseases like influenza will be lower, given the measures we're taking to minimise the spread of COVID19.
 
I have realised some users have a great deal of anxiety over this virus, so I've unilaterally decided to add a default thread prefix "COVID-19" which will appear by default before new thread titles here, so that users that would rather not read threads in this section can avoid them, I can't add the option to not see the threads at all however. The only other prefix is "Self Isolation", which appears in red. I would, however strongly encourage members to keep up to date on the situation through reputable news sources in their own respective countries, but try not to obsess, I think most of us are only checking once a day or so.
 
Not sure where to post this: I’m in America right now and my mum can’t go out to get her shopping as she’s very vulnerable and my stepdad is very old. Apparently they’re going to get letters to say that they’re vulnerable so they can have people shop for them? But don’t know how long these will take and apparently online shopping is next to impossible. What are people here doing in terms of this? She doesn’t know anybody who can shop for her currently
 
Sorry I don't know what is available in the States.

Here in ordinary circumstances, you could contact care agencies or Age Concern to pay a carer to help you. If you couldn't afford it, you contact your local council adult social care dept and have an assessment of need, and carers are provided free if you have no savings and are eligible.

There are existing 'good neighbour' organisations where screened volunteers help with shopping.

In the current crisis multiple groups have set up on Facebook for example. My local neighbour app has this going on. My street has a WhatsApp to help each other. If they're not able to Google what's about, could you do that for them?

If I was desperate for food and elderly, I'd knock on the door of a young, friendly looking, neighbour and ask if they were aware of local volunteer groups which have set up on the Internet.

Perhaps google some of these listed above plus the area your parents live, in the search field. Do you have support?
 
Seven7 said:
In New York City, there was a man who jumped to his death from top of his luxury apartment.
He had no medical history of illness so people concluded that this current lockdown was too much for him to handle. Some people have hard time dealing with such a lockdown I assumed. It gets you psychologically.
I couldn’t live in New York City because it is really crowded with too many people and spaces are really tight.
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I think there's going to be a lot more of this happening sad to say.
 
Black piggies said:
Sorry I don't know what is available in the States.

Here in ordinary circumstances, you could contact care agencies or Age Concern to pay a carer to help you. If you couldn't afford it, you contact your local council adult social care dept and have an assessment of need, and carers are provided free if you have no savings and are eligible.

There are existing 'good neighbour' organisations where screened volunteers help with shopping.

In the current crisis multiple groups have set up on Facebook for example. My local neighbour app has this going on. My street has a WhatsApp to help each other. If they're not able to Google what's about, could you do that for them?

If I was desperate for food and elderly, I'd knock on the door of a young, friendly looking, neighbour and ask if they were aware of local volunteer groups which have set up on the Internet.

Perhaps google some of these listed above plus the area your parents live, in the search field. Do you have support?
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I’ll definitely ring around for her, she’s under varies mental health teams and she could probably get help with most things if we rang the right people. Will have a look for her
 
Rivervixen said:
Sorry @Black piggies I forgot to specify she’s in the uk :)
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Try facebook. Someone in the US managed to get a whole heap of help for their mum by finding the town Facebook page. They joined, sent a message asking if anyone knew what to do in their particular village and they were inundated with offers of help.
 
Black piggies said:
Sorry I don't know what is available in the States.

Here in ordinary circumstances, you could contact care agencies or Age Concern to pay a carer to help you. If you couldn't afford it, you contact your local council adult social care dept and have an assessment of need, and carers are provided free if you have no savings and are eligible.

There are existing 'good neighbour' organisations where screened volunteers help with shopping.

In the current crisis multiple groups have set up on Facebook for example. My local neighbour app has this going on. My street has a WhatsApp to help each other. If they're not able to Google what's about, could you do that for them?

If I was desperate for food and elderly, I'd knock on the door of a young, friendly looking, neighbour and ask if they were aware of local volunteer groups which have set up on the Internet.

Perhaps google some of these listed above plus the area your parents live, in the search field. Do you have support?
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I am in the US and there are neighborhood people offering help to others who wish to have their groceries delivered.
There are grocery stores that offer Curb-side pick up so you can just drive through and pick up your groceries. Costco always have grocery delivery services in two days time also.
 
Rivervixen said:
I’ll definitely ring around for her, she’s under varies mental health teams and she could probably get help with most things if we rang the right people. Will have a look for her
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Is she under wellbeing or secondary care older people community mental health team (CMHT)? They can tell you where to get help locally and it's good to work with them as a family member to manage risk. Their numbers are usually available on Google. If you can't find the numbers, I could help with finding numbers if you wanted to PM me where they live.
 
Black piggies said:
Is she under wellbeing or secondary care older people community mental health team (CMHT)? They can tell you where to get help locally and it's good to work with them as a family member to manage risk. Their numbers are usually available on Google. If you can't find the numbers, I could help with finding numbers if you wanted to PM me where they live.
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I know she has a CPN and she’s under the mental health services but that’s all I know. She’s in Barnsley, I don’t mind putting that here as everybody here is lovely :)
 
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