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Dental procedure-post anesthesia help

Just wanted to update you guys because I am excited (cautiously). First time ive seen him try to eat himself happily in over a week. He really likes these condense hay rounds we have. I think because he can easily get it and it comes in short pieces. He has been munching away for 10 minutes @furryfriends (TEAS) @Wiebke @alpacasqueak
 

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Just wanted to update you guys because I am excited (cautiously). First time ive seen him try to eat himself happily in over a week. He really likes these condense hay rounds we have. I think because he can easily get it and it comes in short pieces. He has been munching away for 10 minutes @furryfriends (TEAS) @Wiebke @alpacasqueak

Great news indeed!
 
Question- can guineas have cat grass? Was thinking grass might be easier for him to eat but I could only probably by cat grass quickly
 
He still isn’t really anything hard like his pellets or vit c tabs :( glad he is eating some hay though. We are still syringe feeding. Hopefully he comes around.
 
Weigh him daily at the same time if you can, then you can keep an eye on his weight. This is a good indicator of how much he is eating and hopefully maintaining his weight or putting it back on if he has lost any.
Cat grass is fine for piggies, we call it orchard grass here in the UK it’s quite tufty and will be good for his teeth x
 
He is still not eating :( I am so frustrated. We are continuing to syringe feed round the clock. He is maintaining his weight. I am scared to take him back to the same vet but it’s really the only option we have here unless anyone dan recommend someone in Quebec/Nova Scotia that we could travel too :(
 
The problem with guinea pig teeth is, they have to be just right for the piggy to eat, so unless the vet is really experienced with guinea pig teeth the outcome isn't always good. I think you may need to try and find a more experienced vet in your area. So sorry you are going through this xx
 
So sorry you don’t have more vets where you are to help, hope you can find a good one ASAP. He’s lucky to have you feeding him so well and great he’s keeping his weight up. Hope you see some improvement soon x
 
So sorry you don’t have more vets where you are to help, hope you can find a good one ASAP. He’s lucky to have you feeding him so well and great he’s keeping his weight up. Hope you see some improvement soon x

thanks! It is truly frustrating. I am calling all around to try and find help including Montreal but that is an 8 hour drive :( I don’t think I can own guineas anymore without help around, it is much too stresful
 
I’m so sorry you’re having such a tough time, I know what it’s like to have such trouble with these piggies (and my rainbow bridge chinchillas) but thankfully I found a good vet otherwise I would have felt the same. Teeth trouble is a nightmare so I feel for you, had it with one of my pigs and both of my chins.
Keep trying different foods to see if you can spark an interest in munching again and keep going, you’re doing an amazing job xx
 
Weigh him daily at the same time if you can, then you can keep an eye on his weight. This is a good indicator of how much he is eating and hopefully maintaining his weight or putting it back on if he has lost any.
Cat grass is fine for piggies, we call it orchard grass here in the UK it’s quite tufty and will be good for his teeth x

he loves the cat grass. First time I’ve seen him chomp in two weeks!
 

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Hi guys,

We had to delay our trip to Quebec due to weather (welcome to Canada) we are now going tomorrow. Today while feeding his critical care I noticed he had a lump on the right side of his chin :( I am devastated, either the initial vets missed or he has now developed an abscess while we have been trying to find someone to help us. I am just hoping to get your advice on what questions we should ask the vet tomorrow if it is infact an abscess? @Wiebke @furryfriends (TEAS)
 
Hi guys,

We had to delay our trip to Quebec due to weather (welcome to Canada) we are now going tomorrow. Today while feeding his critical care I noticed he had a lump on the right side of his chin :( I am devastated, either the initial vets missed or he has now developed an abscess while we have been trying to find someone to help us. I am just hoping to get your advice on what questions we should ask the vet tomorrow if it is infact an abscess? @Wiebke @furryfriends (TEAS)
This will be the cause of the dental issue, that your previous vet missed. The abscess will need to be marsupialised (opened, drained and stitched open for twice daily flushing. He’ll need a really good antibiotic, such as Zithromax (azithromycin). The teeth will need sorting too!
 
Hi guys,

We had to delay our trip to Quebec due to weather (welcome to Canada) we are now going tomorrow. Today while feeding his critical care I noticed he had a lump on the right side of his chin :( I am devastated, either the initial vets missed or he has now developed an abscess while we have been trying to find someone to help us. I am just hoping to get your advice on what questions we should ask the vet tomorrow if it is infarct an abscess? @Wiebke @furryfriends (TEAS)

An abscess can cause pain long before it comes up fully, as I know from my own piggies (any my own toothache). It is not at all easy to find or notice before blowing up.

If the abscess has developed a pouch, then it needs lancing and very thorough flushing by the vet. It also needs to have to be marsupialised (the exit stitched open) for twice daily flushing at home for as long as possible, ideally at least 5 days but the closer you can come to 10 days the better to allow any last bit of infection to come out. In the later days you may have to work off the scab that is forming in order to the get last bit of pus out that could cause the abscess to return.
Your vet will have to give you a syringe with needles so you can create enough pressure to get the mildly antiseptic mix in deep enough (saline solution, f10 or hibiscrub all work) by holding the needle into the opening and then pushing the fluid into the hole. An abscess needs to heal from the inside out.
It is not a pleasant job - except for when you are our Abscess Queen, @furryfriends (TEAS) ! But it is necessary...

My dental abscess piggies have also been put on maximum dog metacam (0.25 ml twice daily for a ca. 1 kg piggy) and been prescribed a course of zithromax (azithromycin), which is the antibiotic most effective to cut through an abscess. The dosage is 0.1 ml per 100g of body weight. It is however not officially licensed for guinea pigs but I hope that your vet may be open-minded.

Your vet will also have to correct any teeth; he will find that one side is likely overgrown because of one-sided chewing.
The good news is that the pain from the abscess will stop instantly as soon as it is lanced.

Please make sure that you have probiotics and syringe feed at home in case your boy is not eating straight away or a strong antibiotic is impacting on the gut microbiome and killing off the appetite.

Good luck!
 
This will be the cause of the dental issue, that your previous vet missed. The abscess will need to be marsupialised (opened, drained and stitched open for twice daily flushing. He’ll need a really good antibiotic, such as Zithromax (azithromycin). The teeth will need sorting too!
Thank you once again! In your experience, what is the recovery like?
 
Thank you once again! In your experience, what is the recovery like?
Some heal quickly, but I won't lie, some can take a lot of hard work and time. You need to be quite aggressive in how you deal with the abscess. You must keep it open and peel off any scab that starts to form. I find the flat cotton wool pads are the best for cleaning the abscesses. Make sure your vet gives you a large syringe, with a needle attached, for flushing. You hold the needle just away from the opening of the abscess and direct the flow into the hole!
 
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Some heal quickly, but I won't lie, some can take a lot of hard work and time. You need to be quite aggressive in how you deal with the abscess. You must keep it open and peel off any scab that starts to form. I find the flat cotton wool pads are the best for cleaning the abscesses. Make sure your vet gives you a large syringe, with a needle attached, for flushing. You hold the needle just away from the opening of the abscess and direct the flow into the hole!
Thank you. I am so scared about the recovery. I am a physician with a hectic schedule and my partner has already taken so much time off :( it’s been hard. Do you have any pictures of what it will look like post op so I’m not completely thrown off when I see it
 
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An abscess can cause pain long before it comes up fully, as I know from my own piggies (any my own toothache). It is not at all easy to find or notice before blowing up.

If the abscess has developed a pouch, then it needs lancing and very thorough flushing by the vet. It also needs to have to be marsupialised (the exit stitched open) for twice daily flushing at home for as long as possible, ideally at least 5 days but the closer you can come to 10 days the better to allow any last bit of infection to come out. In the later days you may have to work off the scab that is forming in order to the get last bit of pus out that could cause the abscess to return.
Your vet will have to give you a syringe with needles so you can create enough pressure to get the mildly antiseptic mix in deep enough (saline solution, f10 or hibiscrub all work) by holding the needle into the opening and then pushing the fluid into the hole. An abscess needs to heal from the inside out.
It is not a pleasant job - except for when you are our Abscess Queen, @furryfriends (TEAS) ! But it is necessary...

My dental abscess piggies have also been put on maximum dog metacam (0.25 ml twice daily for a ca. 1 kg piggy) and been prescribed a course of zithromax (azithromycin), which is the antibiotic most effective to cut through an abscess. The dosage is 0.1 ml per 100g of body weight. It is however not officially licensed for guinea pigs but I hope that your vet may be open-minded.

Your vet will also have to correct any teeth; he will find that one side is likely overgrown because of one-sided chewing.
The good news is that the pain from the abscess will stop instantly as soon as it is lanced.

Please make sure that you have probiotics and syringe feed at home in case your boy is not eating straight away or a strong antibiotic is impacting on the gut microbiome and killing off the appetite.

Good luck!
thank you again so much. I really appreciate the help and experience. Please keep your fingers crossed that all goes ok. I know the risks of anesthesia and also the stress of the travel is quite stressful for us but I think we need to do everything we can for him as long as he is not suffering too badly
 
So sorry your baby has an abscess, hope the vet can treat it and sort out his teeth x
So glad he is liking his cat grass. We travel around 400 miles each way to see our dental piggie vet, we are so lucky in the U.K. to have such a marvellous vet, I feel for you, I know how dreadful it is when you can’t trust your local vets to do piggie dentals correctly, this happened to us
Hope you can get him sorted and better x
 
Some heal quickly, but I won't lie, some can take a lot of hard work and time. You need to be quite aggressive in how you deal with the abscess. You must keep it open and peel off any scab that starts to form. I find the flat cotton wool pads are the best for cleaning the abscesses. Make sure your vet gives you a large syringe, with a needle attached, for flushing. You hold the needle just away from the opening of the abscess and direct the flow into the hole!
@furryfriends (TEAS) Do they need to go under anesthesia for this or can it be done under local freezing? Although I suspect for the teeth they will put him at least under with gas :(
 
@Wiebke how do I go about giving him human vet c tabs

Best dissolve 1/8 - 1/4 in 2 ml of water and syringe that. That makes sure that he gets the full benefit and it all goes in even if he doesn't like the taste (which many piggies don't).
 
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