dont have a problem with P@H but..

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Went to P@h sunday to get guinea pig food had a little look at the adoption bit and saw a very cute guinea pig.

as i have been looking for a little girl to live with one of my girls i thought i would ask about it

i ask the man if he could tell me if it was a girl or boy he got the piggy out and say i think it is a girl i made sure i had a look as well and guess what yep it was a boy you could tell as he was not a young boy so you could see his bits lol



he was a little stunner wish i could of given him a home but no room for a boy :(

I then ask did they have any girl up for adoption and was told not yet but we will by the end of the day grrrr
 
Bailey said:
Please consider a Proper rescue centre over P@H "adoption" :(
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I dont think there is anything wrong with adopting from p@h it is still a guinea pig looking for a home.

and this thread was to say about them not sexing piggy right not where i adopted a pig from.
 
All he would have been was an impulse buy, and if they can't tell his sex what else can't they tell you.

I know its personal choice, and If people go to pets at home for there animals I will never understand why though.

I have adopted a pig from p@h when I didn't know better but daily I see the rescue piggies on here and would much rather help them now I know better, so the rescues can continue to rescue.

Imagine you couldn't sex him. You then put them with your girls and hey presto babies just one example of why we shouldn't support pets @ home.
 
flintstones said:
All he would have been was an impulse buy, and if they can't tell his sex what else can't they tell you.

I know its personal choice, and If people go to pets at home for there animals I will never understand why though.

I have adopted a pig from p@h when I didn't know better but daily I see the rescue piggies on here and would much rather help them now I know better, so the rescues can continue to rescue.

Imagine you couldn't sex him. You then put them with your girls and hey presto babies just one example of why we shouldn't support pets @ home.
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I think the rescue pigs in P@H deserve a good home just as much as ones in a rescue center.
 
Deadgirl said:
there is and thats what I'm planning but it was one of those things i was there was able to give it a home if it was a girl .
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I know you probably feel like you are getting bashed for thinking P@H is a suitable place to get a piggy. :(

If I could just add a little from a rescue's perspective I hope to encourage you to continue in your aim to adopt a rescue piggy.

All the pigs in petshops (whether in the pet section or adoption) are safe, fed and indoors. There are 100's of pigs that aren't in those conditions just waiting for help. P@H and other petshops do not actively rescue - they don't go out in all weathers to rescue dumped animals (like the farm rescue pigs here at the moment), they don't trawl the free ads for the most vunerable pigs.

Rescues all around the country have little or no cage space and unless people come forward to help rehome the ones that are there waiting then we can't help the next pig that desperately needs help. By rehoming through a rescue not only are you helping that individual pig but also the one that can be saved from it's current situation once there is a cage available.

Thank you reading, I know you are dedicated to helping pigs as your desire to help the lethal boys showed when their appeal was featured on the forum - I'm very happy to say they are doing very well, still waiting to move to their forever home but continuing to thrive and grow.

Suzy x
 
But suzy that's not one hundered percent true, we've had countless threads about how the pets in some pet shops and pets at homes, are endangered. Not given the right amount of things that they need, that are pregnant and they don't even know what to do with them...

It's an animal, It is my opinion that it deserves as much a good home as any other. I'm very proud and thankful rescues doing what they do. But that doesn't mean that all animals are any less deserving because they were born into crappy circumstances.

:) x
 
This thread, I believe, was started as a non happy comment (yet again about P@H) being crap at yet another aspect of guinea pig care, yet people on here still give them their money for both pets and supplies. With respect, either stop giving them your money or get over it and stop complaining about them. Where else would you complain bitterly about a business on the one hand then give them money with the other?
 
lexybee91 said:
But suzy that's not one hundered percent true, we've had countless threads about how the pets in some pet shops and pets at homes, are endangered. Not given the right amount of things that they need, that are pregnant and they don't even know what to do with them...

It's an animal, It is my opinion that it deserves as much a good home as any other. I'm very proud and thankful rescues doing what they do. But that doesn't mean that all animals are any less deserving because they were born into crappy circumstances.

:) x
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Animals deserve a loving home yes, but stores like p@h and other pet shops. Are breeding animals out of control there are to many animals without homes. This is were your ethics come in do you wish to support mass-breeding in horrid conditions or would you rather stand up and say no its not on!

The best wait to stop this cycle continuing is to vote with your feet. If you continue giving them your business the cycle will continue.

Being a Guinea Pig forum, and the fact we care about animal welfare for me this is a huge issue.

Which I why I don't support Pets at Home ofcourse this is just my opinion, perhaps research breeding mills and the conditions animals are kept in.

I want to save all the animals not just one and to do that you have to stop supporting pet shops that sell animals, so they will stop churning animals without any concern for there welfare.

They stopped selling dogs in pet shops, so it just goes to show things can change.

Dead Girl I'm sorry for ranting on your thread this comment is aimed at everyone, this is an issue I feel so strongly about. I do hope you do adopt a piggy, as I know you will give them a fabulous home. X
 
Karen (Reading Guinea Pig Rescue) has got a great set up, have you met her? Not sure who she's got at the moment but I'm sure she could help you find a lovely girl to pair up with yours. x
 
nutmeg said:
This thread, I believe, was started as a non happy comment (yet again about P@H) being crap at yet another aspect of guinea pig care, yet people on here still give them their money for both pets and supplies. With respect, either stop giving them your money or get over it and stop complaining about them. Where else would you complain bitterly about a business on the one hand then give them money with the other?
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your right i but i get there nuggits from p@h as they seem to really enjoy them and I'm happy to keep giving them so i have to go in to get them there food
 
A life is a life but you have to draw the line somewhere - are you going to buy the ones that take their place as well?

The way I see it, the Pets at Home adoption section is a bit like the section in Tesco where they reduce all the almost out of date stuff. It won't sell, they reduce it, move it to a special section to shift it quickly so they can make room for more stock. One might be an out of date cucumber, one might be a guinea pig but it's the same idea and that doesn't sit right with me.
 
katiepops said:
Karen (Reading Guinea Pig Rescue) has got a great set up, have you met her? Not sure who she's got at the moment but I'm sure she could help you find a lovely girl to pair up with yours. x
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That is where i plan to go .
 
Deadgirl said:
your right i but i get there nuggits from p@h as they seem to really enjoy them and I'm happy to keep giving them so i have to go in to get them there food
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I'm sorry we don't 'have to' do anything we choose to. If you choose to buy from pets at home that is your choice, no one is forcing you to.

There are plenty of food supplies, who don't add to the millions of already neglected and homeless animals to choose from.
 
why is it this forum gangs up on someone who has a diffrent opinion to most on here.

I feel really unwelcome and am made to feel like I'm doing wrong when I'm not.
 
It's really not so black and white as some people make it.

Like pet shops are bad and rescues are good. We all know that, but then it's difficult to know what to do in a situation like the adoption section (those animals need a home, what happens if nobody will take them, what happens in shops that don't have adoption sections?) or like if an animal is in danger or being seriously neglected in a pet shop (IMO that animal needs out, even if you have to pay for it, but other people have their own opinions of course).

It's easy to judge and to say that you shouldn't do things, but everyone has their own opinions and nobody can say there's is right just because a forum says so or whatever.

Like say there could be another forum that says that guinea pig cages should be 6'X2' and they could come on here and say we're all cruel! Or that guinea pigs shouldn't be confined at all, etc.

Basically I'm just saying that we have to make up our own minds what to do in situations, and not judge each other, because we all have the animals' best interests at heart :)




And as for buying supplies in pet shops, that's another difficult point. Sometimes I think that's as bad as buying pets, sometimes I think it's better because it's only giving them money for supplies, so not encouraging them to breed more or sell more pets, but actually showing them they make more money from supplies.

I prefer to avoid pet shops (except one good pet shop I know or ones that don't sell pets) because I really don't like them. But if you haven't really thought about it and don't really know where the animals came from, it doesn't seem that bad . . . live and learn.
 
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Deadgirl said:
why is it this forum gangs up on someone who has a diffrent opinion to most on here.

I feel really unwelcome and am made to feel like I'm doing wrong when I'm not.
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Deadgirl, please do not feel unwelcome. This is a contraversial topic, and people feel strongly about it. You did nothing wrong!

Everyone is entitled to their views and opinions, so are you.
It is verry hard to walk away from any piggy, let alone petshop piggies!

We are all here because we are passionate about the same thing-piggies.
I also believe that no-one tried to make you feel bad, or wrong, people are only trying to save what we are all so passionate about, Guinea piggies. :))
 
Deadgirl said:
why is it this forum gangs up on someone who has a diffrent opinion to most on here.

I feel really unwelcome and am made to feel like I'm doing wrong when I'm not.
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I know a lot of forums can make people feel like that. I'm sure that the people are not purposely trying to make you feel like that, they just care about animals so much, but I understand why you feel that way.
 
Deadgirl said:
why is it this forum gangs up on someone who has a diffrent opinion to most on here.

I feel really unwelcome and am made to feel like I'm doing wrong when I'm not.
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I know that on a pro rescue/rescue friendly forum such as this, it is not the opinion of 'most' to buy guinea pigs from a pet shop. I'm sure it's not. We would be failing in our basic aim if that were the case. However, I'm really sorry you feel ganged up on. A new guinea pig is just wonderful, wherever he is from, but as I said previously that is talking at 'pig' level. We are talking here about supporting a big business and all that entails, which has already been well documented.
 
Deadgirl I'm sorry if you feel your been ganged up on, your not the only one that uses pets at home. I was merely just pointing out you don't have to shop there and that everyone has a choice.

I'm afraid, I will never agree with pets at home or pet shops that sell animals and will never support them.

Granted I may have bee a bit passionate in my replies, but I did not mean to make you feel unwelcome. We will just have to agree to disagree. X
 
I agree that pet shops should not sell animals for profit, however, I can't see a big problem with the adoption centre. None of the money they get for an adopted pet goes into their pockets, in fact according to their site, it says this "it’s a sad fact that thousands of pets end up homeless in the UK every year, through no fault
of their own. Support Adoption For Pets provides financial support to the many rescue centres which do a tremendous job of finding new homes for these deserving pets.
Thanks to their efforts, hundreds of animals are given a second chance of happiness every day" This is the link http://www.petsathome.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Info_10601_support-adoption-for-pets_-1_10551

Before I got my piggies I hadn't even heard of guinea pig rescues. A lot of people haven't. If it weren't for pets at home adoption I hate to think what might happen to unwanted animals if the owner didn't have a place to take them. I know through talking to a girl who works there, who boards small animals that they have had animals dumped on their doorstep. I wonder what would have happened to those animals if they hadn't been.

Rescues are not around every corner and maybe not so accessible for some people. PAH adoption centres maybe their best option. As I have said, I agree that shops should be banned from selling animals and making a profit. But do you honestly think adoption centres are bad? Surely they are saving a live in this instance. I plan in the future to rescue because I now know about them, having said that, I cannot hand on heart say that I would definitely not adopt. My heart rules my head a lot of the time and I put my emotions onto the animals.

I haven't responded to posts such as this because I have seen how others are treated if their opinions differ. I might and probably will get shot down for this, I don't know.

I love all animals, I cry each time I read that someone has lost their pet. I'm not a bad person because I have an opinion that will probably not be liked xx
 
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