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Dot, gurgling tummy.

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Freshly laid poop reminds me of when I used to do research on goat parasites, the goats had to wear a nappy for a couple of hours to make sure we got a really fresh poop sample... not suggesting that for Bernie of course, it just reminded me of all the bruises I suffered trying to persuade a chunky boer billy goat to wear his goat knickers for the afternoon!
 
PigglePuggle said:
Freshly laid poop reminds me of when I used to do research on goat parasites, the goats had to wear a nappy for a couple of hours to make sure we got a really fresh poop sample... not suggesting that for Bernie of course, it just reminded me of all the bruises I suffered trying to persuade a chunky boer billy goat to wear his goat knickers for the afternoon!
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I can imagine that! Attempting to milk a Nanny goat is bad enough without the bucket being kicked over. Putting a nappy on a Billy Goat ..... well you are braver than me! A nappy on a guinea pig? now that is something you should never see!
 
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SkyPipDotBernie said:
So no hunching whilst pooing or straining with crackling bum hole noises? Sorry sounds horrid, but its what happens
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I wouldn't say that Ellen (or Emma) hunches and strains or makes cracking bum hole noises but she definitely squeaks whilst weeing. I wouldn't worry about the hunching up though, she's doing that as it's painful when she wees / poos
 
Dot is doing great tonight, havnt see a hunch yet or strain. I have cut out coriander. If anything, its Bernie just lazing in his bedroom, i think he has been keeping away from Dot, the pain has made her a bit sensitive
 
I have just found sort of a light brown grey gunk on dots private area..now I'm thinking bladder sludge. This is what i feed her daily....

1 slice of red bell pepper morning and evening

1 coriander spring

1 slice of cucumber .

Carrot once a week
Kale twice a week
Red luttuce mix sometimes.

Anyone think it might help to syringe Dot a as much water as she is willing to take when i get home later?
 
SkyPipDotBernie said:
Will pro c help? And some poop soup from Bernie? Ive never seen fiberplex in pets at home. Dots anus opening in also a little tiny bit sort of mucusey, but as i said she is still pooing good.

Her food portion size is ok, its her stealing Bernies food thats the problem. Its hard to control her
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Both will be fine. You can't really overdose with probiotics and they won't harm if they're not needed. Jon loves Pro C so hopefully Dot does too.

You could try feeding them separately. Jon is a hog with the vet so I need to make sure he doesn't eat it all.
 
Jaycey said:
Both will be fine. You can't really overdose with probiotics and they won't harm if they're not needed. Jon loves Pro C so hopefully Dot does too.

You could try feeding them separately. Jon is a hog with the vet so I need to make sure he doesn't eat it all.
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I have put it in one of their water bottles, It encourages Dot to drink more, she keeps going over to get more, do you know id the probiotic degrades in water over time? I know the vit c will. I'm syringing it aswell, but the bottle is just a bonus
 
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Claire W said:
I suggest cutting out the kale completely from her diet and syringing her extra water will do no harm :) Has she ever had her urine span down? That would show crystals / sludge
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i worry about the vit c thats all, red bell and green bell peppers are ok but if I'm cutting out corainder and kale,It only leaves the nuggets( grain free ss) and peppers and a bit of pro c.
 
SkyPipDotBernie said:
I have put it in one of their water bottles, It encourages Dot to drink more, she keeps going over to get more, do you know id the probiotic degrades in water over time? I know the vit c will. I'm syringing it aswell, but the bottle is just a bonus
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It will do, but as water bottles need changing daily anyway then it won't have chance to degrade too much
 
I think i need to attack this problem with upping her water intake, whilst making sure i dont over do it. Ive been syringing for 6 years on and off, so will be fine with that. And them eliminate the culprit veg
 
SkyPipDotBernie said:
Whats span down?
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They put a urine sample in to a special machine that spins the urine and seperates it. It shows if there is crystals / sludge / blood and bacteria in the urine. If there’s no crystals, it’s highly unlikely they’ll be sludge / stones
 
Claire W said:
They put a urine sample in to a special machine that spins the urine and seperates it. It shows if there is crystals / sludge / blood and bacteria in the urine. If there’s no crystals, it’s highly unlikely they’ll be sludge / stones
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Ok il ask about this, thanks. Do they did it on the spot? I have lost a pig to stones before, but a boar, and he just basicly seized up from it. Dot is basicly normal, just squatting alot and laying to eat hay
 
SkyPipDotBernie said:
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i worry about the vit c thats all, red bell and green bell peppers are ok but if I'm cutting out corainder and kale,It only leaves the nuggets( grain free ss) and peppers and a bit of pro c.
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My two have never had kale and only have a bit of coriander and have never had an issue with lack of vitamin c ;)
 
SkyPipDotBernie said:
Ok il ask about this, thanks. Do they did it on the spot? I have lost a pig to stones before, but a boar, and he just basicly seized up from it. Dot is basicly normal, just squatting alot and laying to eat hay
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They may do. It depends how busy they are. I usually drop a sample in and my vet does it when she gets a chance as it needs looking at through a microscope and phones me with the results
 
SkyPipDotBernie said:
So what do you feed daily.
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Daily they have about a tablespoon of pellets, cumcumber, pepper, green bean, lettuce (usually little gem) and coriander although they don’t have coriander everyday. They have a plate of veggies twice a day. Then of course have unlimited hay. I’ll occassionally give them a treat of baby corn and a mixed salad bag that contains rocket and / or spinach. I’ve been feeding this diet since Ellen was 6 months old and she’s 4 on the 17th March
 
My job is really not helping with helping Dot, I'm
Claire W said:
Daily they have about a tablespoon of pellets, cumcumber, pepper, green bean, lettuce (usually little gem) and coriander although they don’t have coriander everyday. They have a plate of veggies twice a day. Then of course have unlimited hay. I’ll occassionally give them a treat of baby corn and a mixed salad bag that contains rocket and / or spinach. I’ve been feeding this diet since Ellen was 6 months old and she’s 4 on the 17th March
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I may copy this. I have been giving coriander everyday morning and night.

Is it possible to flush sludge out by upping water intake
 
SkyPipDotBernie said:
My job is really not helping with helping Dot, I'm

I may copy this. I have been giving coriander everyday morning and night.

Is it possible to flush sludge out by upping water intake
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It helps but it depends how severe the sludge is. My late Connie had it very bad as did Erin and they both required a bladder flush. Coriander is fine to eat twice a day, it’s only because mine eat it all and then I don’t go shopping again until later in the week
 
Claire W said:
It helps but it depends how severe the sludge is. My late Connie had it very bad as did Erin and they both required a bladder flush. Coriander is fine to eat twice a day, it’s only because mine eat it all and then I don’t go shopping again until later in the week
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When you say very bad, do you mean like stopped eating and all that? It could not be bladder sladge thats Dot has but i want to give some things a try anyway
 
SkyPipDotBernie said:
When you say very bad, do you mean like stopped eating and all that? It could not be bladder sladge thats Dot has but i want to give some things a try anyway
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When Connie had it, she was very poorly, was hardly eating and lost a lot of weight, and literally screaming in pain and hunching up when she urinated. I’ve never heard anything so heartbreaking. Erin was literally leaking urine, she was pure white but her whole back end was brown with urine and when the vet palpitated her bladder, she gushed wee that was bloody and sludgy. She had an ultrasound which showed her bladder was full of sludge
 
Claire W said:
When Connie had it, she was very poorly, was hardly eating and lost a lot of weight, and literally screaming in pain and hunching up when she urinated. I’ve never heard anything so heartbreaking. Erin was literally leaking urine, she was pure white but her whole back end was brown with urine and when the vet palpitated her bladder, she gushed wee that was bloody and sludgy. She had an ultrasound which showed her bladder was full of sludge
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O god, sounds so bad!.
 
Claire W said:
When Connie had it, she was very poorly, was hardly eating and lost a lot of weight, and literally screaming in pain and hunching up when she urinated. I’ve never heard anything so heartbreaking. Erin was literally leaking urine, she was pure white but her whole back end was brown with urine and when the vet palpitated her bladder, she gushed wee that was bloody and sludgy. She had an ultrasound which showed her bladder was full of sludge
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Oh that sounds really nasty.
 
Merab's Slave said:
Hope all goes well with Dot at the vet.
She’s obviously in good hands with you.
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Thanks, lets just hope i make it, i tried for saturday, but fully booked, and then simon isnt about apparently, until next sat. I think the receptionist might think i was only asking about saturday hmmm. Dont know
 
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