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Dot has a suspected Uterine

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I have been given marbocyl and fresh loxicom, but its basicly to spay or not to spay now. I'm pretty scared.

The title may be wrong. I dont know in detail, what this is, but i have been told to up feeding her grass from outside and keep her water intake high. So I'm wetting all veg now, she has had her pee tested and it does has blood in and is a bit milky
 
Oh no poor Dot... but your vet sounds excellent and if a spay would fix things thats the obvious choice! Hugs and healing wheeks poor girl x
 
It could cure her, but he is letting me think about it first, he said she could carry on living happily like she is, and then if it affects her when shes older, he can open her up and have a go anyway, or have a go soon whilst shes young. I think he said, if its attached to the bowel, he cant do anything anyway.

He sounded like he was confident it was uterine, he has given me marbocyl, will this help?

My head is all over the place. Do it go for it? From what @furryfriends (TEAS) said, I'm thinking yes, bit on the selfish side, i really dont want to lose a 3 year old otherwise healthy sow. And then leave Bernie on his own until a rescue another sow
 
I have had to emergency spay my frail 700g Cariad because of major problems with her womb by Simon. She has simply sailed through it even though it came only five months after a major bladder stone op.
Cariad with her husboar Bryn, who was with her at the vets and stayed with her until I was fully sure that she was eating well and was stable to rejoin the whole group two days after the operation.
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Since then my Iola needed a spay for large ovarian cysts, aged 5 years; again, she has come through it well. Simon has spayed all the sows for now defunct Rabbit and Guinea Pig Welfare rescue in Rugby for one and a half decades; it was the only UK rescue with a spaying policy, so he is the UK vet with the most experience in that field.

Currently I am saving up for another ovarian cyst spaying op for a cyst is that is likely to turn cancerous in old age.
I would however recommend to rather spay in younger age than when a sow is older; she is more likely to heal faster and bounce back better than risking a make or break operation when she is older and ill.

But it is always more difficult when you have never been through a major operation before. Take your time to think things through as it is obviously not an emergency, just a developing problem, but rest assured that she is in the most experienced of hands operation-wise.
 
What i dont get is, its the same lump as shes had since june last year, i dont know why he didnt mention uterine then?🤔
 
I dont know why he has given me marbocyl again. Can uterine get infected?
 
I have just had a talk with the wife, we have basicly agreed on spaying Dot. Just got to find out when and book a day off in the week. There isnt a major rush but I'm hoping before the end of the month
 
He’s probably given marbocyl as she’d got blood in her urine. He will be wanting to cover all bases, as you don’t want an infection setting in. I’ve had a few sows spayed and we are considering routinely spaying all sows before rehoming and I’ve been discussing this with Simon.
 
furryfriends (TEAS) said:
He’s probably given marbocyl as she’d got blood in her urine. He will be wanting to cover all bases, as you don’t want an infection setting in. I’ve had a few sows spayed and we are considering routinely spaying all sows before rehoming and I’ve been discussing this with Simon.
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If this is how confident you are with putting sows through spaying, I'm happy to get Dot done. Aswell as seeing wiebkes post too. I'm only put off by some sad stories on this forum i have seen before.

How much is the operation roughly?
 
Uterine just means "of the uterus" which is why Debbie was asking a uterine what. I assume some sort of growth if there is a lump and potential that it has attached to the bowel (not sure if cysts can attach). I have had one sow spayed. I'm sure she was 4 and a half at the very earliest when she was spayed and that was due to sizeable cysts. She sailed through it no problems at all so I think if this is a case where you are being told she will need it at some point, I am always more inclined to go through it while they are healthy and strong rather than waiting for it to be more of a problem and for them to have started losing weight.
 
There is always a risk with any operation and it is always a jump of faith that you need make when you commit. No surgeon or vet will ever have a 100% success rate.

However the quality and experience of the operating vet and his nurses team for the recovery period can make a huge difference in the overall success rates. The quicker a vet is during an operation (that is where practice and experience is coming in and where Simon's true genius is lying), the shorter the time under GA and the smaller the risk of complications.
Simon also uses a different anaesthetic to the one most commonly used by general vets; piggies come round noticeably easier as I know from my experiences in past times.

PS: There is one more aspect with spaying a younger sow that you might want to consider - you do not have to worry about ovarian cysts as she gets older, as the ovaries are coming out, too. And with both your piggies neutered, you have totally free hand in finding a new companion if one of them dies. Like neutering, spaying won't change social behaviour. Dot is simply not coming into season anymore. ;)
 
SkyPipDotBernie said:
If this is how confident you are with putting sows through spaying, I'm happy to get Dot done. Aswell as seeing wiebkes post too. I'm only put off by some sad stories on this forum i have seen before.

How much is the operation roughly?
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I wouldn't let anyone but Simon spay our piggies, but I trust him 100%. All surgery will carry a risk, but I feel that risk is miniscule, when it is Simon doing the op.
Cost wise I am not sure, but if you ring the practice they will give you an idea of price.
 
SkyPipDotBernie said:
If this is how confident you are with putting sows through spaying, I'm happy to get Dot done. Aswell as seeing wiebkes post too. I'm only put off by some sad stories on this forum i have seen before.

How much is the operation roughly?
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For a spay I was quoted £150 by Kim I've got to book my sow in for a spay.
 
SkyPipDotBernie said:
If this is how confident you are with putting sows through spaying, I'm happy to get Dot done. Aswell as seeing wiebkes post too. I'm only put off by some sad stories on this forum i have seen before.

How much is the operation roughly?
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About £150-200, I think, but Iola's spay took longer than normal because one of her ovarian cysts had got stuck to the gut and was rather touch and go to get cut out without cutting into the intestines, so it wasn't a quick op.
Cariad's spay was 6 years ago, so prices are no longer comparable.

I am saving up for £200 towards Morwenna's spay in order to cover for any unplanned complications. The biggest budget post in the operation bill is the GA - the longer an operation is lasting, the higher the bill.
 
So sorry that Dot has got a uterine problem. You have a fabulous vet with Simon and he’s near to you. I trust him implicitly with my Ted. Dot is still a spring chicken and I know you have plenty of experience looking after poorly piggies, so post op you and Dot will sail through this as you know what you are doing. Why don’t you have a chat with Simon if you are a little undecided, you are bound to be worried as any caring owner would be x
 
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Bill & Ted said:
So sorry that Dot has got a uterine problem. You have a fabulous vet with Simon and he’s near to you. I trust him implicitly with my Ted. Dot is still a spring chicken and I know you have plenty of experience looking after poorly piggies, so post op you and Dot will sail through this as you know what you are doing. Why don’t you have a chat with Simon if you are a little undecided, you are bound to be worried as any carry owner would be x
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Thanks for this message☺. Can i speak to simon? Normally hes busy the whole day. We have decided to do it, but i just need to plan it carefuly. I need a friday, so i can baby sit her all weekend
 
Wiebke said:
About £150-200, I think, but Iola's spay took longer than normal because one of her ovarian cysts had got stuck to the gut and was rather touch and go to get cut out without cutting into the intestines, so it wasn't a quick op.
Cariad's spay was 6 years ago, so prices are no longer comparable.

I am saving up for £200 towards Morwenna's spay in order to cover for any unplanned complications. The biggest budget post in the operation bill is the GA - the longer an operation is lasting, the higher the bill.
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Am i over reacting with the whole spay worry? I just know its riskier then Neutering, and that worried me enough back then. By the way i took Bernie with Dot and she was much better in the carrier, they were huddled up together, Bernie was just chilling eating hay, and Dot just looked terrified, and she was vibrating at the receptionists phone ringing
 
furryfriends (TEAS) said:
I wouldn't let anyone but Simon spay our piggies, but I trust him 100%. All surgery will carry a risk, but I feel that risk is miniscule, when it is Simon doing the op.
Cost wise I am not sure, but if you ring the practice they will give you an idea of price.
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Thats good, but having a spay because of a health issue adds risk right? Forgot to say, i saw you at the vets with another lady holding a small carrier
 
SkyPipDotBernie said:
Thats good, but having a spay because of a health issue adds risk right? Forgot to say, i saw you at the vets with another lady holding a small carrier
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ah, sorry you should've spoken to me. That's Megan, who is one of our fosterers. I met her there today, as it was the first time she had taken the piggies to an appointment. It sounds like the health issue is very mild at mo, so I doubt it would add much risk at this stage.
 
Well I think if you have decided you are getting her spayed you’ve made the right decision, you don’t want to wait until she’s old, and it will play on your mind now if you don’t get her done. I would be very worried too but Simon is the most experienced piggie vet so she will be in great hands and you and Bernie can nurse her over the weekend after her op x
 
furryfriends (TEAS) said:
ah, sorry you should've spoken to me. That's Megan, who is one of our fosterers. I met her there today, as it was the first time she had taken the piggies to an appointment. It sounds like the health issue is very mild at mo, so I doubt it would add much risk at this stage.
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I didnt want to interrupt you talking😜. 👍
 
Ok, so I'm going to get it done👍. Asap, should i take Bernie aswell, and leave him at the vets? Can you do this?
 
SkyPipDotBernie said:
Am i over reacting with the whole spay worry? I just know its riskier then Neutering, and that worried me enough back then. By the way i took Bernie with Dot and she was much better in the carrier, they were huddled up together, Bernie was just chilling eating hay, and Dot just looked terrified, and she was vibrating at the receptionists phone ringing
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Spaying is a bigger and more risky operation than neutering (which Simon can do in 5 minutes with a near total success rate), but with a good vet the success rate even in spaying is overwhelmingly in your favour. Simon has also done a fair number of different ops like several bladder ops on piggies of mine, not just spays. I wouldn't use any other vet unless there is no other option.
 
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