I'm hoping to get a C&C cage

Eddie & Elvis

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Hello 🙂

Eddie and Elvis' cage is currently the minimum size so I'm looking into upgrading to a C&C cage. I've done lots of research and have found grids (with 9 little squares) and correx on Amazon. It will be 3x4 grids and either raised up on a table or I will make a stand with more grids. Today I properly explained my plan and gave all my information to my parents and showed them how much space it would take up and stuff like that and was able to answer all the questions they had so I think I've made a pretty convincing argument. 🤞

However one thing I am wary of as are my parents is that Elvis can be a bit of an escape artist. Three times he has successfully gotten over the fence I put out for floor time which is 26cm high. So my question is is it possible he could get over a 35cm C&C grid? I doubt he could but my dad wants to make sure he couldn't climb up using the bars as rungs rather than getting his paws on the top and hauling his body over like he did with the fence. So unlikely as it seems to me is this is possible and should I make a lid just in case?
 

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If he is an escape artist then I’d definitely recommend a lid, or making the cage sides two grids high
There is every chance he could get out of a c&c grid. They can, if they feel so inclined, jump 12 inches/30 cm but if he were to stand on top for a hidey for example, he would have no trouble in getting over.
I have my grids two high because one of mine likes to jump on hideys so could easily get out

If you were to make a lid using extra c&c grids, then it would be easier to do so if the cage were two grids wide (it would need to be a 5x2 cage). It’s possible to with it being 3 grids wide but you’d need extra horizontal supports for the lid. I think @alpacasqueak has a cage 3 grids wide with a lid so may be able to help
 

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I think a lid sounds like it would be a good idea, you could also make sure that any hideys that Elvis can climb onto aren’t near to the edge of the cage so that he can’t climb onto the hidey and then use it as a sort of stepladder to escape!
 

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We are also 2 grids high because of bouncy Piggle! Piggle's bouncy naughtiness would rival a bunny with a trampoline... most piggies may be mostly fine in 1 grid high as long as you dont have anything they can climb on too near the grid, but Piggle can and has jumped that high, and Tallulah monster in the other cage still climbs the bars like a hamster! So we like 2 grids high. Most piggies probably wouldnt jump or climb 35cm but some do!
 

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:yikes: I didn't think piggies would jump or climb 36cm, based on my own experience, but I must have just had very lazy piggies - they didn't even try climbing out of my ferplast when I left it open accidentally.
Are you doing 4x3 because it fits your space best? I had a 5x3, it was great for my exercise because I ran round and round it trying to shepherd the little blighters into a cosy at cleaning or grass time. I couldn't reach all the way across, so every time I got round to one side, they ran back over to the other... Another reason why 5x2 or 6x2 is a good size, is that 2 grids deep will fit on basic cheap tables like the IKEA one that some people have. Then you can keep their fleece and other stuff underneath.
 

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Thanks for all the replies I'll definitely be making a lid! I wasn't aware piggies could jump quite that high and I hadn't thought about if he stood on a hidey which he has done before. I'd like the cage to be raised up so having the sides 2 high would make it hard to reach over to clean. If @alpacasqueak could explain how she made a lid on a 3 wide cage that would be great 🙂

@Qualcast&Flymo yes I was going to do a 3x4 because it fits the space best. A 2x5 is the other option but it sticks out slightly longways blocking off a plug socket and leaving little room for the curtains.
Luckily Eddie and Elvis are very cooperative and need no shepherding to go into a cosy so I shouldn't have that problem.

I also have another question this time about correx. How far up the sides should I go and how do I measure it so it fits nicely inside the grids?
 

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When I made mine I think I just measured an extra 15cm around all of edges for the sides but I also followed the guide on a website called ‘guinea piggles’ on how to make a c&c cage, they have step by step instructions you can follow and tell you how to measure the correx so I would recommend you looking at that.
 

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I have watched one or 2 videos from guinea piggles which is where I got the idea for a stand. I'll have look at some of their other videos. Thank you 🙂
 

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A standard correx sheet is 2440x1220mm, so you would need to have the 3 grid side across the 1220mm side of the correx, leaving a max of 7mm to fold up each of the 4 grid sides. Then you would have 1000mm to play with along the length; you could have the correx all the way up one end to keep hay from falling out from hay trays etc in that area. I had about 15mm up both ends of my 5x3. Exactly how much you have is up to you, depends on whether you need to keep stuff in and whether it's hiding other things from view or access.
 

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Regarding measuring the correx to fit the grids- will you be using the plastic 4 way connectors?
When I made mine, I worked out the size of base and sides I wanted to fit exactly in the grids, and then made it that size. However when I put the correx inside the made up cage, I then found that it sat on top of the connectors rather than flat on the surface underneath it (more grids in my case). Maybe a better way would have been to put the cage on top of the correx and then mark out the area for the base within the connectors. ( only prob there being, it means the base is a bit smaller and there's a gap between the correx sides and the grids).
 

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Only a suggestion and one that's my own not a guide. If you find double c c to high to clean etc. . You can use cable ties and say make it 1.5 high. Just a thought.
I'm lucky my piggies don't do Olympics much. .tho I got a might shock once when I had a piggie sleeping on TOP of a carrot house. Let me add as @Qualcast&Flymo and others suggest all hides and items that can be used to leap off . Put away from edge. .
 

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@Qualcast&Flymo I put hay straight on the floor so I would need the correx high enough to stop it spilling over in one place at least. 7mm doesn't sound like very much would that be enough as long as I didn't put hay there?
Yes I think I will be using the 4 way connectors they look easy to use. Although the shortest delivery is not until 3rd October on the particular girds I've found so can anyone suggest any similar ones that can deliver sooner?
These are the grids and correx I've found are they good ones?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/AmazonBasics-Cube-Wire-Storage-Shelves/dp/B0735GRJXY

1x Black Correx Sheet 4mm x 1.2 x 2.4m for Hard Floor and Surface Protection Flexible Lightweight Water Resistant Corrugated Floor Protective Cover Plastic Board: Amazon.co.uk: DIY & Tools

@David Piggie Lover I'm sorry I don't understand how I could make it 1.5 grids high can you explain some more please?
I was shocked too when Elvis suddenly jumped on top of a wooden hidey! I'll have to make sure that ones not too close to the edge 🤣
 

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Over lap 2 c+c . . Best to show you as can't explain . . Sorry. . .
Emmmm. I try. Place 1 c+c on top of another and slide along to height required and fasteren with lots ties. . . If others think this is a dumb idea pls say so. :doh:
 

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Oh right! I was under the impression correx was the only thing I could use... I don't know why 😂 Is correx still the best option though? I use vet bed with puppy pads underneath
 

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Over lap 2 c+c . . Best to show you as can't explain . . Sorry. . .
Emmmm. I try. Place 1 c+c on top of another and slide along to height required and fasteren with lots ties. . . If others think this is a dumb idea pls say so. :doh:
Ahh that makes sense
 
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