Introduction going good or bad?

[Cookie_Lolly_Brownie]

Hi everyone,

I am still new with owning guinea pigs. I started by adopting 2 female guinea pigs (Cookie and Lolly), which were together from birth.
A few days ago, we adopted another female guinea pig (Winnie). This one is older than the other 2.
We started introducing them a few days ago, but had to stop because things got fairy heated. (Winnie snapped towards Lolly, whi became very afraid and Cookie tried to defend her by attacking an preventing Winnie from getting close to Lolly). Today we tried again and things were better.
However, I have the feeling that the introduction for one guine pig (Cookie) is not going well. She keeps making this noise (like the sound they normally make when just "bubbling around", but louder and constant), she also wheeks very loud and runs away when the new guine pig comes close.
They took a nap together (nose to butt) all three of them. But Cookie now still is afraid (?) When the new piggie comes close. Now Cookie and Lolly (who went along fine before) seem to disagree sometimes too and have a little "fight"

Is this introduction not going well, or should I have patience.

Thanks guys!

 

[Siikibam]

It may be that they’re trying to sort out the hierarchy. Cookie may be squeaking in submission rather than in fear. Have a read of the guides below and watch the bonding video and see. Trios can be a little tricky sometimes. Firstly because you can on occasion end up with an outsider. Secondly, the pair may not want a new piggy to join them. And if the top two sows can’t work it out then that makes things difficult.

When introducing, did you do it in a neutral area where no pig had been? What happened yesterday that didn’t happen today? And what do you mean when you say that Cookie and Lolly ‘fight’? And how long have they been in the bonding area?

Bonding and Interaction: Illustrated social behaviours and bonding dynamics
Adding More Guinea Pigs Or Merging Pairs – What Works And What Not?
Sows: Behaviour and female health problems (including ovarian cysts)

This one breaks down the dominance behaviours into levels. Have a look and see where you think they sit.
Dominance Behaviours In Guinea Pigs

 

[Cookie_Lolly_Brownie]

It may be that they’re trying to sort out the hierarchy. Cookie may be squeaking in submission rather than in fear. Have a read of the guides below and watch the bonding video and see. Trios can be a little tricky sometimes. Firstly because you can on occasion end up with an outsider. Secondly, the pair may not want a new piggy to join them. And if the top two sows can’t work it out then that makes things difficult.

When introducing, did you do it in a neutral area where no pig had been? What happened yesterday that didn’t happen today? And what do you mean when you say that Cookie and Lolly ‘fight’? And how long have they been in the bonding area?

Bonding and Interaction: Illustrated social behaviours and bonding dynamics
Adding More Guinea Pigs Or Merging Pairs – What Works And What Not?
Sows: Behaviour and female health problems (including ovarian cysts)

This one breaks down the dominance behaviours into levels. Have a look and see where you think they sit.
Dominance Behaviours In Guinea Pigs

Thanks for all the info!

The introduction is on neutral ground and they are bonding for the last 3h. Now sometimes Cookie and Lolly don't want to sit next to eachother and one will "strike out" or push the other away. This hasn't happend before, they always liked being close.
Yesterday Cookie and Winnie really got in a fight. Cookie became really defensive of Lolly and charged at Winnie. Today the roles were reversed. Cookie was very timid and afraid of Winnie (she runs away when Winnie comes near). And Lolly was the one challenging Winnie. Now everything has settled down and only the noise (the squaking bubbling sound) and chaising eachother are still a constant. Cookie seems to be uncomfortabel close to Winnie. But they still nap together.

So I guess I should wait it out and see what happens. I was worried Cookie was stressing too much (she has asthma so I tend to be a little bit worried about her).

 

[Siikibam]

I would leave them in there overnight if you’re unsure. However, if they had a proper fight then it wasn’t a good idea to put them together again. Did you read the guides I linked to? Where on the scale are they and was it a proper fight? Sows tend to pull out hair rather than go for an all out furball fight.

 

[Cookie_Lolly_Brownie]

I would leave them in there overnight if you’re unsure. However, if they had a proper fight then it wasn’t a good idea to put them together again. Did you read the guides I linked to? Where on the scale are they and was it a proper fight? Sows tend to pull out hair rather than go for an all out furball fight.

Yes thank you, I read the guides. They were very helpful.
Now I know it wasn't a full on fight but hair pulling.
So I will see if they settle their dominance without getting blood involved.

 

[Cookie_Lolly_Brownie]

I would leave them in there overnight if you’re unsure. However, if they had a proper fight then it wasn’t a good idea to put them together again. Did you read the guides I linked to? Where on the scale are they and was it a proper fight? Sows tend to pull out hair rather than go for an all out furball fight.

They are switching between beining in the orange warning scale and the green scale.