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Dental Little poppy is not eating after molar trim

Djpiggie

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Hi all, my little piggie poppy had a molar trim on Monday, it is now saturday and she is still not eating anything other than critical care, her droppings a little apple and sometimes broccoli, it seems to me like she can't chew after her surgery as she constantly rummages through her pellets, grass, leaves and some hay but doesn't pick it up, and even when she sometimes picks it up, she drops it out of her mouth, we are however making critical care into little soft balls which she picks up and eats for herself, she eats alot of critical care and seems to be quite constipated even though I see her drink water. Now what puzzles me is that poppy was a very heavy piggie at 1.5 kg and is only 0.7kg now. Despite all the feeding we do her weight doesn't seem to go up. I am caring for poppy by myself and I've already spent around a thousand dollars on her dental work (which seems very expensive to a student like me), and I would like to get her eating as soon as possible. I am quite low on funds and I've been to 5-6 different vets who all say that they can't do anything for her without an xray (which itself is around 300-400 dollars) , and so I was wondering how long it should take my little piggie to recover because I have tended to her for almost 3 weeks now, I am also curious as to how long it'll take for her molar teeth to grow back because trimming them was 600 dollars and the nurse at the vet in art centre said that I have to do molar trims every week. Here's a list of the things I observed in her and some notes on her behaviour and my suspicions etc. :
Has hard time chewing
LOVES her syringe as long as what's inside it is soft

Is She too lazy to eat?I read online that they can become accustomed to syringe feeding and only want that, if so, how can I stop and get her back on hay

When I mix bits of hay with critical care she Bites the hay very slowly, like a dog chewing on a hard bone

Was constantly chewing when left by herself not sure if she was eating though

She is on 2 doses of meloxicam and another stronger medication per day

Slanted two back teeth: the vet said that 2 of her very back teeth are slanted more than the rest of her teeth and I have also noticed that she Chews to the side, so I was wondering if there was a correlation.

Was very sleepy in the morning not anymore

Tries to eat her cage mates bum all the time when together (so I've seperate them right now)
Eats her droppings but they seem very hard as she is constipated and again Chews very slowly, I also give her a couple syringes of water and critical care every 2-3 hours

Wants the syringe to go deeper into her throat

Gave her a pellet, she tried to eat but only rolled around on her tounge and kept chocking and gagging on it

When we break things up, like the soft centre of a cucumber, she eats it, but not sure if she Chews or just swallows

One the very first day after surgery she came home and very very slowly ate one whole leaf

raises her bottom alot when she poos

She is sometimes seen just chewing

Is she still recovering?

Eats with her whole head, as in when she Chews she makes her whole head bob up and down as opposed to before where she just had her mouth munching fast

We tried forcing stuff like little things into the back of her mouth, and she sometimes Chews but not sure if she is actually chewing or is just swallowing

She has little residue in her eyes all the time


Loves critical care when hungry and doesn't even seem interested in hay

When left by herself she seemed to have eaten balls of critical care and drunk water

Used to love grass and hay but won't even look at them anymore

Was seen digging around in her cage earlier today, not sure why but then she proceeded to chew, don't think she eats pellets as last time she just kept it rolling in her mouth

Her mouth was injured after surgery as the vet showed us some pics of the inside of her mouth which had blood on it( a little bit)

Is very scared and hides all the time

Molars not trimmed properly?
 

Djpiggie

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I am also in Melbourne so if there are any very specialised vets, I'd love to know about them
 
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We have an excellent vet in the UK who does great things with guinea pig teeth @Djpiggie. Alot of the time they are eating fine by the time they are back home and in their cage. So I suspect your pigs teeth issues haven't been resolved.

That would also explain the difficulty chewing and not wanting to eat.

I recommend finding a different vet to have a look at your pigs teeth.

You mention that your pig is constipated and also losing weight fast. Pigs don't get constipated. There isn't many poops coming out because your piggy isn't eating enough. That's shown by the rapid weight loss.

You need to increase the amount of syringe food you are giving her.

Pigs digestive systems slow down and eventually stop if they do not have any, or enough food travelling through it so it's important to keep her well fed during her illness. It will also give her the necessary energy to recover.
 

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Hi all, my little piggie poppy had a molar trim on Monday, it is now saturday and she is still not eating anything other than critical care, her droppings a little apple and sometimes broccoli, it seems to me like she can't chew after her surgery as she constantly rummages through her pellets, grass, leaves and some hay but doesn't pick it up, and even when she sometimes picks it up, she drops it out of her mouth, we are however making critical care into little soft balls which she picks up and eats for herself, she eats alot of critical care and seems to be quite constipated even though I see her drink water. Now what puzzles me is that poppy was a very heavy piggie at 1.5 kg and is only 0.7kg now. Despite all the feeding we do her weight doesn't seem to go up. I am caring for poppy by myself and I've already spent around a thousand dollars on her dental work (which seems very expensive to a student like me), and I would like to get her eating as soon as possible. I am quite low on funds and I've been to 5-6 different vets who all say that they can't do anything for her without an xray (which itself is around 300-400 dollars) , and so I was wondering how long it should take my little piggie to recover because I have tended to her for almost 3 weeks now, I am also curious as to how long it'll take for her molar teeth to grow back because trimming them was 600 dollars and the nurse at the vet in art centre said that I have to do molar trims every week. Here's a list of the things I observed in her and some notes on her behaviour and my suspicions etc. :
Has hard time chewing
LOVES her syringe as long as what's inside it is soft

Is She too lazy to eat?I read online that they can become accustomed to syringe feeding and only want that, if so, how can I stop and get her back on hay

When I mix bits of hay with critical care she Bites the hay very slowly, like a dog chewing on a hard bone

Was constantly chewing when left by herself not sure if she was eating though

She is on 2 doses of meloxicam and another stronger medication per day

Slanted two back teeth: the vet said that 2 of her very back teeth are slanted more than the rest of her teeth and I have also noticed that she Chews to the side, so I was wondering if there was a correlation.

Was very sleepy in the morning not anymore

Tries to eat her cage mates bum all the time when together (so I've seperate them right now)
Eats her droppings but they seem very hard as she is constipated and again Chews very slowly, I also give her a couple syringes of water and critical care every 2-3 hours

Wants the syringe to go deeper into her throat

Gave her a pellet, she tried to eat but only rolled around on her tounge and kept chocking and gagging on it

When we break things up, like the soft centre of a cucumber, she eats it, but not sure if she Chews or just swallows

One the very first day after surgery she came home and very very slowly ate one whole leaf

raises her bottom alot when she poos

She is sometimes seen just chewing

Is she still recovering?

Eats with her whole head, as in when she Chews she makes her whole head bob up and down as opposed to before where she just had her mouth munching fast

We tried forcing stuff like little things into the back of her mouth, and she sometimes Chews but not sure if she is actually chewing or is just swallowing

She has little residue in her eyes all the time


Loves critical care when hungry and doesn't even seem interested in hay

When left by herself she seemed to have eaten balls of critical care and drunk water

Used to love grass and hay but won't even look at them anymore

Was seen digging around in her cage earlier today, not sure why but then she proceeded to chew, don't think she eats pellets as last time she just kept it rolling in her mouth

Her mouth was injured after surgery as the vet showed us some pics of the inside of her mouth which had blood on it( a little bit)

Is very scared and hides all the time

Molars not trimmed properly?


Hi and welcome

I am very sorry about your experience. Since hay makes over 80% of the daily food intake, please weigh your piggy daily at the same time and if necessary top up with syringe feed. Unless you have seen a very experienced dental vet, most piggies struggle with eating and with a very sore mouth post-treatment as it usually takes several rounds of burring to fully rebalance the dental system.
Complete Syringe Feeding Guide (includes a chapter on caring for dental piggies).

It sounds like a dental by a vet without experience. Unfortunately, cavy dental vets are far and few in between as it is not part of regular vet training.

I haven't found any recommended vets listed for Melbourne, but am linking an old member from your city in, who may be able to give you a recommendation. @Glynis

Alternatively you could contact this good standard Melbourne based guinea pig rescue here, as they can hopefully give you a recommendation for a good guinea pig vet, too: https://www.facebook.com/Chuffnut-C...-Sanctuary-Melbourne-Shelter-132958846775921/

That is likely your best chance to find a good piggy vet. Dental savvy vets are rarer and more precious than diamonds... in any country!

Since we have got members and enquiries from all over the world, we find it very helpful if you please added your country, state/province/world city or UK county to your details so we can always tailor any advice to what is relevant and available where you are straight away. Click on your username on the top bar, then go to account details and then down to location. This makes it appear with every post you make and saves everybody time. Thank you!

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Hi, I’m so sorry you are having problems. I’ve been going through a similar thing with my boar. He had dentals and was seen by numerous vets but still wasn’t eating and was dropping weight fast. I managed to take him to a dental specialist vet here in the UK and he trimmed the teeth with my piggy awake. Afterwards he could eat straight away. He will need some further trimming, but he’s putting weight back on nicely.

I so hope you find a piggy savvy vet soon. I totally agree with the others about upping the syringe feeding. It’s such a stressful and emotional time. Sending lots of love xx
 

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Don't separate you piggies she is eating the piggys pellets, that is good for her it's like a medicine to them. Get any food down her, critical care, or mash some pellets down, spoon feed or put it in a syringe. You need to be giving her any of the the foods I've mentioned 2-3 hourly. The vet obviously didn't know what she was doing. Can you ring around & speak to other vets. If you don't get some food etc in her, I'm afraid you could lose her, hopefully not. Go to the forums & it will have a article about syringe feeding. But by putting that other piggy back with her, it will do her good.
 

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My Ted had dental problems early this year, made far worse by a vet with no experience of guinea pig dentistry. He was unable to pick up food as his incisors where cut too short. Poppy sounds like she is having similar problems, it’s a very stressful and worrying time for you. I was very lucky to find this forum who gave me advice and was able to get him to an excellent guinea pig vet (6.5 hour journey each way) who sorted his teeth out in 10minutes, it was amazing how he started eating straight away after the dental! I’d struggled along with critical care and hand feeding for over a month. If Poppy’s teeth had been done correctly, then you would notice an improvement. I agree, you need to find a new vet, ask the sanctuary which vet they use for dental piggies, I’m sure they will get some in.

Keep up the good work with feeding, do let your piggie feed off your other ones poos, Ted did this, and it helped his tummy, it’s full for good bacteria and roughage which your Poppy won’t have enough of and will do her the world of good. Keep them together if at all possible, we all need a friend when we are poorly, your other piggie will cheer her up and support her.

Best of luck for Poppy x
 

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Hi, I’m so sorry you are having problems. I’ve been going through a similar thing with my boar. He had dentals and was seen by numerous vets but still wasn’t eating and was dropping weight fast. I managed to take him to a dental specialist vet here in the UK and he trimmed the teeth with my piggy awake. Afterwards he could eat straight away. He will need some further trimming, but he’s putting weight back on nicely.

I so hope you find a piggy savvy vet soon. I totally agree with the others about upping the syringe feeding. It’s such a stressful and emotional time. Sending lots of love xx
Thank you so much for the suggestions, I have kept feeding her but she only eats critical care, that I make into a giant ball by making the concentration of cirictal care high, and some soft foods like apple and sometimes the heads of broccoli, I've been trying to put grass into her mouth but she just spits it back out. And as for a dental specialist the guys I went to where called the Melbourne rabbit clinic and they only do piggies and rabbits and as of now, they have said that she should be eating and that if she doesn't start eating hay we should put her down, and I really don't want to lose her, luckily she eats the cricital care balls that I make her by herself and those foods mentioned above, hopefully she starts eating some hay soon but again she just seems to chew off to one side, but thank you so much for your suggestions and we'll keep feeding her. I was also wondering how long it takes for their molar teeth to overgrow?
 
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