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Male genitals

Piggies&buns said:
Yes - you do need to find out what is causing this issue.
A stone stuck in the urethra would be very painful so if he does have one then it may be small - large enough to get stuck but small enough to not cause the life threatening issues a stuck stone causes

I hope he is ok
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What would be the treatment for a small stone?
 
Any stone in the penis would need to come out if that’s possible so really it would be up to the vet to know whether or what is appropriate. I’m just surprised that he isn’t seriously unwell if it is a stone though. first need confirmation that is definitely what the problem is though
 
Piggies&buns said:
Any stone in the penis would need to come out if that’s possible so really it would be up to the vet to know whether or what is appropriate. I’m just surprised that he isn’t seriously unwell if it is a stone though. first need confirmation that is definitely what the problem is though
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So the X-ray would be the best next step?
 
Tiny stones usually form in the kidneys and travel down the ureters into the bladder where they are called bladder stones. Stones that are too large to pass the kidneys or that get stuck in the ureters (the tubes leading from the two kidneys to the bladders) are generally called kidney stones. Any successful operative or other removal is currently sadly still beyond veterinary abilities; or at least we have never heard of one yet.

In boars, more sizeable stones that then pass further on into the urethra typically fetch up in the awkward male inglenook in the urethra while sows with a shorter and straight urethra have theirs ending up inside the muscular ring that controls the peeing, which makes them easier to reach and remove manually under sedation or if needed, operate out.
Bladder stones can be successfully removed in both sows and boars. It is generally an operation with a fairly good success rate.

The urethra leading from the bladder to the exit in boars is longer, narrower and has a distinctive kink (which is usually called an 'inglenook'. We have only ever come across stones in boars that have either stuck in the inglenook or that were small enough to be peed out.

Stones in inglenooks are never good news as many removal ops don't come off because it is a difficult operation with the stones often embedded in the wall, making it much higher risk. What is going on with your boy is very unusual and for us without precedent. Normally you'd expect that the urethra would be fatally blocked very quickly with whatever is stuck in there.

I hope that this puts our comments into a bit more of a perspective.

I am keeping my fingers very firmly crossed.
 
Thank you for all the information. Squeaky is perfectly well in himself. It’s a real puzzle.
Did I read somewhere that sometimes they need a stitch to keep the penis in place? Could it just be that?
 
AliP said:
Thank you for all the information. Squeaky is perfectly well in himself. It’s a real puzzle.
Did I read somewhere that sometimes they need a stitch to keep the penis in place? Could it just be that?
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That is with a prolapsed penis tip that cannot be retracted anymore but the upper part doesn't look distended like that. The pink tip is stuck out further instead and dragging around. You are dealing with sheath tissue being pushed out, not so much the penis itself.

This is a normal extended but not yet fully extended penis with some smegma around the shaft if that helps you. There is not the swelling around the base that your boy has.
In a prolapsed penis there is no mechanical blockage of some sort to prevent retraction.
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Wiebke said:
That is with a prolapsed penis tip that cannot be retracted anymore but the upper part doesn't look distended like that. The pink tip is stuck out further instead and dragging around. You are dealing with sheath tissue being pushed out, not so much the penis itself.

This is a normal extended but not yet fully extended penis with some smegma around the shaft if that helps you. There is not the swelling around the base that your boy has.
In a prolapsed penis there is no mechanical blockage of some sort to prevent retraction.
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So the vet decided not to proceed with the x ray and possible treatment as squeaky is so well. She said to let him live his life, on the proviso that we check his penis daily.
So tomorrow I’m going to attempt the long awaited bonding 🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞
 
AliP said:
They are just as the bonding thread describes- getting used to each other but all good. Can’t believe they are now all together and happy ❤️
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That is great news. Rather give them more time together in the bonding pen than in the joint cage. It's better to not rush this stage so they can get the roughest part of the group leadership and hierarchy establishment out of the way before they hit their premises.
 
Wiebke said:
That is great news. Rather give them more time together in the bonding pen than in the joint cage. It's better to not rush this stage so they can get the roughest part of the group leadership and hierarchy establishment out of the way before they hit their premises.
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I followed the guide and they are now living happily ever after. I’m so delighted!
 
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