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Marbocyl For The Bladder?

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Fudge has went down hill a bit and the vet thinks it's due to her bladder. She has had recurring uti's for well over 6 months to which she responded to septrin. Her uti's where usually with no symptoms to her just evident on dipstick. They where treated due to her old age and low immune system making her high risk for infection spreading.

With each utI, the septrin has taken longer to work. She just had a 2 week course where the last 5 days of it she had clear dipstick tests.

5 days later blood and protein returned on urine dipstick and she was straining with urinating.

Started on septrin again aswell as cystease- 7 days in and the bladder isn't responding and she is very painful.around the bladder. Appetite diminishing and losing weight. Still eating hay and veg but picky with her pellets (which she usually devours).

No obvious crystal problem when looked under microscope and she was x-rayed tonight for stones- of which there was none.

Vet has given an injection of marbocyl and if she tolerates that okay over the next 24 hours, we will move onto an oral.course.also given subcutaneous fluids to try and flush bladder.

She cant have baytril as had it just under 2 years ago and she had diarrhoea for 2 weeks.. dehydration, loss of appetite.. with her being on diuretics for heart failure, diarrhea is a big danger for her. I know marbocyl is the same family but must be different in some ways I guess!

Does anyone have any experience with a. Oral marbocyl and b. Using it for bladder infections?

Thanks x
 
Marbocyl was the antibiotic we used for Petal's flare ups of bladder infections, she tolerated it very well, even though she reacted badly to Zithromax, which caused her to have an upset tummy. She had monthly Cartrophen injections rather than cystease & we added Cerenia in occasionally when she had major flare ups :) xx
 
Poppy'sMum said:
Marbocyl was the antibiotic we used for Petal's flare ups of bladder infections, she tolerated it very well, even though she reacted badly to Zithromax, which caused her to have an upset tummy. She had monthly Cartrophen injections rather than cystease & we added Cerenia in occasionally when she had major flare ups :) xx
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What's cartrophen and what role does it play in helping manage bladder issues? Crunchie has severe ic so could be an option for her. I know cerenia is an anti emetic used in cats and dogs but how does this help with bladders too? Just wanting to equip myself with options to mention to the vet! Thank you xx
 
Adelle said:
What's cartrophen and what role does it play in helping manage bladder issues? Crunchie has severe ic so could be an option for her. I know cerenia is an anti emetic used in cats and dogs but how does this help with bladders too? Just wanting to equip myself with options to mention to the vet! Thank you xx
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Cartrophen is an anti inflammatory similar to Cystease, my vet found it had better results & although Petal didn't exactly enjoy her jabs it certainly improved her IC issues, she went from being almost always having blood or infections to having just 2 or 3 flare ups a year. Cerenia she only had about 3 times, 4 days on, two days off from what I remember. I am not entirely sure how it worked, it might have been to do with bonding the calcium deposits. The other thing we used was Potassium Citrate, that does bond the calcium deposits so they are excreted from the body. Petal had a sludgy bladder, even after a bladder flush xx
 
Poppy'sMum said:
Cartrophen is an anti inflammatory similar to Cystease, my vet found it had better results & although Petal didn't exactly enjoy her jabs it certainly improved her IC issues, she went from being almost always having blood or infections to having just 2 or 3 flare ups a year. Cerenia she only had about 3 times, 4 days on, two days off from what I remember. I am not entirely sure how it worked, it might have been to do with bonding the calcium deposits. The other thing we used was Potassium Citrate, that does bond the calcium deposits so they are excreted from the body. Petal had a sludgy bladder, even after a bladder flush xx
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Thank you. Crunchies flares are so close together it's just one big flare now! Will mention cartrophen to my vet xx
 
furryfriends (TEAS) said:
Marbocyl works really well with bladder issues. I do find it works best in injectable form though. Would you be able to inject her? x
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Glad to hear it's good for bladder issues! I'm guessing there's less impact on the guts too if given by injection?

I'm really pathetic when it comes to injecting my own animals.. particularly fudge. I flap! Can microchip a screaming puppy but can't inject fudge with an orange needle!

Our vet is only 10 mins away so I'm Willing to make the journey for daily injections if I'm still gonna be a wimp about it! If injectable is better then I'd rather go for that x
 
It works very much better when administered by injection. It is also less harsh on the tummy when injected. I am currently injecting Benji with Marbocyl in addition to Zithromax and it isn't easy injecting a piggy. Bunnies are so easy to inject, but guinea pigs can be rather challenging. If you can take her to the vet each day, then I would say go for the injectable one. xx
 
furryfriends (TEAS) said:
It works very much better when administered by injection. It is also less harsh on the tummy when injected. I am currently injecting Benji with Marbocyl in addition to Zithromax and it isn't easy injecting a piggy. Bunnies are so easy to inject, but guinea pigs can be rather challenging. If you can take her to the vet each day, then I would say go for the injectable one. xx
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Thank you, I think il do that granted there's no disasters before tomorrow evening!
 
Adelle said:
Glad to hear it's good for bladder issues! I'm guessing there's less impact on the guts too if given by injection?

I'm really pathetic when it comes to injecting my own animals.. particularly fudge. I flap! Can microchip a screaming puppy but can't inject fudge with an orange needle!

Our vet is only 10 mins away so I'm Willing to make the journey for daily injections if I'm still gonna be a wimp about it! If injectable is better then I'd rather go for that x
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Adelle said:
What's cartrophen and what role does it play in helping manage bladder issues? Crunchie has severe ic so could be an option for her. I know cerenia is an anti emetic used in cats and dogs but how does this help with bladders too? Just wanting to equip myself with options to mention to the vet! Thank you xx
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Sven and Elsa were both having Cartrophen injections. Elsa responded really well to them and she's continued but Sven was getting really stressed going to the vets every month for the injection. Every time we took her, we saw blood in her urine for the next few days so switched her to cystease. The vet told us that we were giving Sven the same thing as Elsa just in a different way.

They both had weekly injections for the first four weeks then went to monthly injections. They seem to have worked for Elsa but not for Sven sadly. Worth a try though :nod:
 
Definitely going to mention cartrophen to the vet for crunchies ic as she's already on a high dose of cystease and maxed out on metacam but still having issues. Her bladder is so.scarred from chronic inflammation :-(

Fudge seems okay, poos are a little soft but nothing drastic. Her weights up a little this morning so definitely doesn't seem.to have upset her system too much x
 
Sending love to Fudge, our first bladder piggy Putt was on Catrophen injections back in 2009 well worth discussing with your vet
 
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