One piggy struggling to recover from toxicity

[Ellhen1]

Hello! We have two boars (1 + 6months) yesterday morning we rushed them to the vet as we found they both hadn’t eaten any of their food from the night before and couldn’t lift their heads up.
The vet said they basically look drunk and kept them in all day on fluids and I believe they had a little critical care before coming back last night.
The 6 Month old is not himself but is so much more perky and is onto his favourite veggies again - fingers crossed he’s on the mend.
Our year old boy is not doing too good - he’s still fully reliant on CC and just wants to lay down. We did manage to get some veggies down him this morning but since then he has totally gone off wanting his CC. The vet did say he would take longer to recover bc he is bigger, but I’m just so worried about him. He hasn’t been to the toilet since last night - which was loose- however he had had nothing but fluid all day so I doubt there was anything to come out. He has only been fully in 3 hourly feeds of CC since yesterday evening so will that not have digested yet and that’s why he hasn’t been to the toilet.

I have hope bc our little one has recovered well so far, but he just seems so lethargic and sad. He’s sleeping a lot and does look so much better then when we found him yesterday - does he just need to rest. I’m panicking bc he hasn’t recovered in 24 hours but am I just being impatient ?

I’m just so worried about him!

 

[Piggies&buns]

What did the vet say was actually wrong?

Is the 6 month old eating hay for himself? You only specifically mention veggies, which isn’t enough.

Switch from the normal weekly weight checks to instead weighing them both daily so you can more closely monitor food intake. Syringe feeds to be increased if their weight isnt being maintained

Poop output it 1-2 days behind food intake so a delay in getting poops out is to be expected

Not Eating, Weight Loss And The Importance Of Syringe Feeding Fibre
Complete Syringe Feeding Guide

 

[Wiebke]

Hello! We have two boars (1 + 6months) yesterday morning we rushed them to the vet as we found they both hadn’t eaten any of their food from the night before and couldn’t lift their heads up.
The vet said they basically look drunk and kept them in all day on fluids and I believe they had a little critical care before coming back last night.
The 6 Month old is not himself but is so much more perky and is onto his favourite veggies again - fingers crossed he’s on the mend.
Our year old boy is not doing too good - he’s still fully reliant on CC and just wants to lay down. We did manage to get some veggies down him this morning but since then he has totally gone off wanting his CC. The vet did say he would take longer to recover bc he is bigger, but I’m just so worried about him. He hasn’t been to the toilet since last night - which was loose- however he had had nothing but fluid all day so I doubt there was anything to come out. He has only been fully in 3 hourly feeds of CC since yesterday evening so will that not have digested yet and that’s why he hasn’t been to the toilet.

I have hope bc our little one has recovered well so far, but he just seems so lethargic and sad. He’s sleeping a lot and does look so much better then when we found him yesterday - does he just need to rest. I’m panicking bc he hasn’t recovered in 24 hours but am I just being impatient ?

I’m just so worried about him!

Hi!

I am very sorry.

Have you found out what has caused the poisoning and been able to remove the cause?

Unfortunately, only time will tell whether your older boy's organs have been affected too badly by whatever poison he has ingested or breathed in or not. All you can do is to keep feeding him for as long as he is accepting food and also offer him water, as much as he will willingly drink from a syringe.

You may find the very detailed and clear practical advice in the green guide link here helpful in working out how you can support your boy for as long as he has the strength to fight and what the signs are that his body has started to close down. Your boy sadly sounds like he is very much hovering at the line - but when you have never had any experience with this, our guide is there to talk you through everything. A Practical and Sensitive Guide to Dying, Terminal Illness and Euthanasia in Guinea Pigs

All the best.

 

[Ellhen1]

What did the vet say was actually wrong?

Is the 6 month old eating hay for himself? You only specifically mention veggies, which isn’t enough.

Switch from the normal weekly weight checks to instead weighing them both daily so you can more closely monitor food intake. Syringe feeds to be increased if their weight isnt being maintained

Poop output it 1-2 days behind food intake so a delay in getting poops out is to be expected

Not Eating, Weight Loss And The Importance Of Syringe Feeding Fibre
Complete Syringe Feeding Guide

Yes we are weighing twice a day now and they are both maintaining their weight - but forcing into our 1 year old.
The 6month old is eating hay (in small amounts) so we are still up keeping with CC for now until he recovers further.
The vet is unsure of what exactly the cause is, but she said they both must’ve eaten something - which is strange as I make sure there is nothing in their run.

 

[Ellhen1]

Hi!

I am very sorry.

Have you found out what has caused the poisoning and been able to remove the cause?

Unfortunately, only time will tell whether your older boy's organs have been affected too badly by whatever poison he has ingested or breathed in or not. All you can do is to keep feeding him for as long as he is accepting food and also offer him water, as much as he will willingly drink from a syringe.

You may find the very detailed and clear practical advice this guide here helpful in working out how you can support your boy for as long as he has the strength to fight and what the signs are that his body has started to close down. Your boy sadly sounds like he is very much hovering at the line - but when you have never had any experience with this, the guide is there to talk you through everything. A Practical and Sensitive Guide to Dying, Terminal Illness and Euthanasia in Guinea Pigs

All the best.

Thank you for your advice - I’m keeping everything crossed. They are outdoor piggies and I have brought them in with a completely new set up to avoid any contamination.

 

[Siikibam]

You should only weigh once a day, at the same time. There will be fluctuations during the day so weighing more than once in a day is inaccurate.

We’re they given any meds? What did the vet test for? I’m sorry your older boy is still unwell. You will have to keep going with the syringe feeding.

 

[Merab]

Sorry that both your piggies are ill.
Holding you in my thoughts.
Hope they both recover quickly