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My Guinea pig ( american type) is eating poor. He has lost 50 grams of weight. Jos poops are like sausage link. He is almost 6 years old. Today se go to the vet but he does not seem to have given it importance. He only told me that I have to give him his food in small pieces or feed him with powder that is prepared with water and used for small birds. I am not very convinced. I don't have another vet of exotics :( Any adviced? In the weekend is very dificult and here there are many restrictions due to pandemic
 

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I read mosapride can be help to increase the motility of ileum, stomach, etc. I has got that medication for my sons. Maybe i can give that to My Guinea pig. I
 

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Please do not give any medication to your guinea pig which was meant for your child - you could inadvertently make your piggy worse

Any digestive disturbance means you need to stop giving veggies to your piggy and only feed hay. You will also need to syringe feed your guinea pig either his normal pellets which you will need to mush up with water, or a herbivore recovery food such as Oxbow critical care. Please do not give anything to your piggy which is meant for birds.

Your piggy does need a proper diagnosis from a vet and depending on the diagnosis, some proper medication.

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Please do not give any medication to your guinea pig which was meant for your child - you could inadvertently make your piggy worse

Any digestive disturbance means you need to stop giving veggies to your piggy and only feed hay. You will also need to syringe feed your guinea pig either his normal pellets which you will need to mush up with water, or a herbivore recovery food such as Oxbow critical care. Please do not give anything to your piggy which is meant for birds.

Your piggy does need a proper diagnosis from a vet and depending on the diagnosis, some proper medication.

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Hi, can be alfalfa hay? Thanks
 

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And this is the "critical care" that vet give us. The ingredients are un spanish. May be useful? Thanks a Lot. IMG_20200926_081849.jpg
 

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I don’t know Spanish, but I have just used google to translate a couple of the ingredients and from what I have seen, this is entirely unsuitable to be fed to guinea pigs - do not feed it. It seems to contain wheat, honey and some kind of yeast - none of these ingredients are safe for guinea pigs

You need a hay based/fibre rich recovery food suitable for herbivores such as Oxbow Critical Care, Emeraid or supreme science recovery food.
Probiotics, Recovery Foods And Vitamin C: Overview With Product Links

What pellets do you normally feed them? Piggies should eat a plain guinea pig pellet - in the absence of the correct recovery feed, you can mush up their normal pellets with water and syringe feed the mush to a poorly piggy. Complete Syringe Feeding Guide
 
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Hi, can be alfalfa hay? Thanks
Guinea pigs should not eat alfalfa hay. They need a grass hay and alfalfa is not grass hay. Alfalfa is a legume and is far too high in calcium to be fed to piggies (too much calcium can lead to the formation of bladder stones)
 

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Please put your guinea pigs on a good grass hay (and not alfalfa/lucerne based) diet. Alfalfa is a legume and too high in calcium and protein to be fed long term; it can contribute to the formation of bladder stones. Only feed a balanced mix of ideally mostly green veg and fresh herbs, not more than ca. 50g/one small bowl full and 1 tablespoon of pellets on a daily basis.
Here is our diet guide link, which looks at all food groups (water, hay (ca. 80% of what your guinea pigs eat in one day) and fresh dog pee free grass, veg (15% with a picture of a balanced diet), pellets (ca. 5%), healthy and unhealthy treats: Long Term Balanced General And Special Needs Guinea Pig Diets

If your poos are a bit strange, then please stop feeding veg and only feed grass hay for a couple of days in order to allow the bad bacteria in the gut to settle down and the good bacteria that normally do the digestion take over again.
See a vet if the poos don't start looking a lot better within 24 hours off any free food or if your boy continues to get worse quickly. Always see a vet immediately within 24 hours if you are dealing with runny poos.
Digestive Disorders: Diarrhea - Bloat - GI Stasis (No Gut Movement) And Not Eating

Please never home treat by guess with human medication. But try to calm down; what you are reporting is still in the range of a mild tummy upset that will hopefully correct itself. ;)

PS: Could you please add 'Spain' to your location. We have literally got members and enquiries from all over the world, and not all will know which country Cordoba is in. Thank you!
 

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Guinea pigs should not eat alfalfa hay. They need a grass hay and alfalfa is not grass hay. Alfalfa is a legume and is far too high in calcium to be fed to piggies (too much calcium can lead to the formation of bladder stones)
Ok. He like fresh grass. In these days is only
I don’t know Spanish, but I have just used google to translate a couple of the ingredients and from what I have seen, this is entirely unsuitable to be fed to guinea pigs - do not feed it. It seems to contain wheat, honey and some kind of yeast - none of these ingredients are safe for guinea pigs

You need a hay based/fibre rich recovery food suitable for herbivores such as Oxbow Critical Care, Emeraid or supreme science recovery food.
Probiotics, Recovery Foods And Vitamin C: Overview With Product Links

What pellets do you normally feed them? Piggies should eat a plain guinea pig pellet - in the absence of the correct recovery feed, you can mush up their normal pellets with water and syringe feed the mush to a poorly piggy. Complete Syringe Feeding Guide
okay. On normal days he eats good fresh grass in our garden, and then in his cage he eats his "pienso" (i don't know how translate ir), fresh vegetables such as carrots, lettuce, tomato, orange, pepper. On these bad days the only thing he eats with enthusiasm is fresh grass. So, which of these things can I feed him ?
 

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Ok. He like fresh grass. In these days is only
okay. On normal days he eats good fresh grass in our garden, and then in his cage he eats his "pienso" (i don't know how translate ir), fresh vegetables such as carrots, lettuce, tomato, orange, pepper. On these bad days the only thing he eats with enthusiasm is fresh grass. So, which of these things can I feed him ?
Carrots, tomatoes and oranges should only be fed once per week - they are too high in sugar and acid to feature as a regular part of their diet.
Piggies need hay as 80% of their diet. It is the main part of their diet and should be available to them constantly. Fresh grass can also be given. They then have just 50g of veg per day, and one tablespoon of pellets.

However, while your piggy is poorly and has a digestive upset, he cannot be fed any fresh grass or vegetables and must only eat hay until it tummy settles and poops return to normal.
 

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Ok. He like fresh grass. In these days is only
okay. On normal days he eats good fresh grass in our garden, and then in his cage he eats his "pienso" (i don't know how translate ir), fresh vegetables such as carrots, lettuce, tomato, orange, pepper. On these bad days the only thing he eats with enthusiasm is fresh grass. So, which of these things can I feed him ?
Pienso translates as general word for feed or fodder. Are you feeding all the same looking pellets or a dry mix/muesli of different bits? We strongly recommend to feed all same looking pellets in order to prevent selective eating, which can have life shortening consequences as research in rabbits has shown. It is very much the same for guinea pigs.

Please go easy on carrots (like feeding a bar of chocolate for rabbits and guinea pigs), tomatos and any fruit (can cause lip infection, cheilitis).
Please rather feed a little fresh herb like cilantro/coriander, parsley, dill, mint, basil, fennel etc. - they are rich in trace elements and cucumber for fluids on those days you don't have access to grass or it is very dry and hot. These are a healthier substitute for for carrot and fruit (tomato is a fruit, too); carrot and fruit are a special treat like cake is for humans.
Don't worry about vitamin C. Fresh green grass is very high in vitamin C (which is the reason why guinea pigs have never had to make their own) and grass hay also contains it. So the more hay and grass your guinea pig eats, the better. Herbs take the place of wild plants that guinea pigs would nibble to supplement their diet. Cucumber and lettuce (no please not much spinach, cavolo/kale or arugula/rocket) are there to provide extra fluid, which can help minimise the risk of bladder stones. You can feed a little kale once a week as the diet needs some calcium; too little is as bad as too much.
 

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Pienso translates as general word for feed or fodder. Are you feeding all the same looking pellets or a dry mix/muesli of different bits? We strongly recommend to feed all same looking pellets in order to prevent selective eating, which can have life shortening consequences as research in rabbits has shown. It is very much the same for guinea pigs.

Please go easy on carrots (like feeding a bar of chocolate for rabbits and guinea pigs), tomatos and any fruit (can cause lip infection, cheilitis).
Please rather feed a little fresh herb like cilantro/coriander, parsley, dill, mint, basil, fennel etc. - they are rich in trace elements and cucumber for fluids on those days you don't have access to grass or it is very dry and hot. These are a healthier substitute for for carrot and fruit (tomato is a fruit, too); carrot and fruit are a special treat like cake is for humans.
Don't worry about vitamin C. Fresh green grass is very high in vitamin C (which is the reason why guinea pigs have never had to make their own) and grass hay also contains it. So the more hay and grass your guinea pig eats, the better. Herbs take the place of wild plants that guinea pigs would nibble to supplement their diet. Cucumber and lettuce (no please not much spinach, cavolo/kale or arugula/rocket) are there to provide extra fluid, which can help minimise the risk of bladder stones. You can feed a little kale once a week as the diet needs some calcium; too little is as bad as too much.
This is "pienso":
 

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This is "pienso":
Thank you. Are these guinea pig specific and what are the ingredients?

Unfortunately, they don't look like they make a good paste to feed your guinea pig. Please mix the small animal recovery formula that your vet has given you and feed that. It should OK to give for a very short time until you can get something better.

A guinea pig that is not eating at all, needs 40-60 ml of the mix in 24 hours (5-10 ml every 2 hours in the day and then 1-2 times in the night); a guinea pig that still eats a little on their own and is willing to take syringe feed, will need 3 times a day 15-20 ml of syringe feed. You monitor the weight by weighing once daily first thing in the morning before you feed breakfast.
 

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Thank you. Are these guinea pig specific and what are the ingredients?

Unfortunately, they don't look like they make a good paste to feed your guinea pig. Please mix the small animal recovery formula that your vet has given you and feed that. It is OK to give.
@Wiebke the recovery feed appears to be for birds, not small animals.
It contains flour, yeast, egg and honey if my google translation of the ingredients is correct?
 

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@AnaMT : Do you have a pet shop where you live where you can look for international pellet brands like Oxbow or Versele Laga?
 

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Just wanted to double check as I don’t know Spanish and was concerned about feeding such ingredients to a guinea pig!
@AnaMT : Do you have a pet shop where you live where you can look for international pellet brands like Oxbow or Versele Laga?
Indeed that powder gave me the vet of exotics. It has honey, egss, wheat flour, many vitamins, etc. Unfortunately here in Cordoba, Argentina, the vet of exotics are not abundant. And don't sell anything like herbivore recovery food, either (like Oxbow). I feel so sad and frustrated. I have cried all night.
Also, now we are with many problems due to the covid and there are not many services. I really really appreciate the help you are giving me, I have read everything. The "pienso" is for rabbits. According to what I have at my disposal, I will give him his "pienso" + water (it has formed a paste) and we have made him a syringe for that mission (photo). I also have some pasture hay left (not alfalfa), that's what you can see in the photo too. Will it be ok then to give him just this for a few days? And I'm seeing how their poops are going...
 

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Indeed that powder gave me the vet of exotics. It has honey, egss, wheat flour, many vitamins, etc. Unfortunately here in Cordoba, Argentina, the vet of exotics are not abundant. And don't sell anything like herbivore recovery food, either (like Oxbow). I feel so sad and frustrated. I have cried all night.
Also, now we are with many problems due to the covid and there are not many services. I really really appreciate the help you are giving me, I have read everything. The "pienso" is for rabbits. According to what I have at my disposal, I will give him his "pienso" + water (it has formed a paste) and we have made him a syringe for that mission (photo). I also have some pasture hay left (not alfalfa), that's what you can see in the photo too. Will it be ok then to give him just this for a few days? And I'm seeing how their poops are going...
Can you please add your country to your account details on the top bar. Vet access and access to international guinea pig brands are a lot better in Spain than in Argentina. And as we are based in the United Kingdom, when we read Cordoba, we think firstly of Spain!

Good that you can turn the pienso into a paste; try to top him up with that. You can dissolve 1/8 of a human vitamin C tablet in 1 ml of water once a day and syringe that if he stops eating altogether. Rabbits can make their own vitamin C, so it is generally not added to rabbit food.
Yes, the pasture hay is great - he should actually mainly live on an unlimited supply of grass/pasture all the time.
 

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You are doing your best and you are a very caring and loving guinea pig owner. The fact that your boy is a very good old age at 6 years speaks for you!

We just have to help you how to make the best of what you can do where you are and in the current situation. My first childhood guinea pigs go back to the 70ies when vet care and general knowledge were very limited. You can only ever do the best you can in any circumstances; but it is never a reflection of being a bad or a good owner.

You give your boy the hay, as much as he will eat and as much softened pienso as he will take. His poos will hopefully normalise in a day or two.
 
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