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Poorly Daisy Again, At Wits End

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I don't want the vet to think I am telling them what to do but I was a little confused when she mentioned diuretic is injection, I was at work when I took the call so just accepted this. She was very amenable to the heart med trials and has sais I can ring for more and they will post out to me which will save a journey. She has given me a 20 day supply initially.
 
I understand, it's just that if she is a heart pig she will need it at some point. It can be given by injection but does not have to be. Have a look at the article that I linked you to.

Is great that your vet agreed to the heart meds though.
 
Daisy is off to the vets again later. I would say she is about the same, she is eating and her poops are normal but at times she looks thoroughly miserable and poor jasper doesn't know whats going on. She is sat on the couch by me now munching on some hay but her breathing is not quite right. Fingers crossed.
 
Good luck, please ask for diuretics to give at home as it could make all the difference.
 
Daisy is booked in for x ray and bloods on Monday. She is now on metacam doxycycline fortekor and a broncho dilator. Jasper will go with her and they will be kept together but they will gove her anaesthetic which i am worried about.
I did ask for diuretic but she did not think it necessary.
 
Did she not think there was fluid on her chest then? What is the Broncho dilator called?
 
She didn't think there was fluid, says it could be something sinister that cannot be treated, ie tumours in lungs so needs an x ray so that they can narrow the possible causes down. Given corvental d 100mg capsule which I have had to split into 5 doses, one dose a day. Doxycycline is 100mg/ml per ml. Give 0.04mls twice a day. She is on call this weekend so says to call if she goes worse, possibly give oxygen?
 
Ok that makes sense. My Nigel was on Doxy when he first arrived here. Be interesting to see what the xray shows though like you say it is a worry her having to go under anaesthetic for it.
 
"helen105281, post: 1507333, member: 5819"]Ok that makes sense. My Nigel was on Doxy when he first arrived here. Be interesting to see what the xray shows though like you say it is a worry her having to go under anaesthetic for it.[/quote]
There is one thing, I have become an expert at syringe feeding the meds, no dribbles now
 
Is there any way the vets would consider doing an ultrasound instead of an xray? this is easier to do conscious and would avoid the risk of giving a potential heart pig an anaesthetic. A tumour would show up on a scan if this was the case.
 
Miss Daisy is off to the vets now and fingers crossed that by the end of today we will know exactly what we are treating. Although I must say she has come on a lot since Friday with her breathing back to normal and healthy appetite.
 
Hope all goes well, try to get them to do it conscious if you can.
 
Okay, Daisy and Jasper back home, phew. However the x ray was a bit inconclusive. Vet says her bronchial tubes appeared a little inflamed, no enlarged heart but a shadow over front of heart which made it a little difficult to see clearly. Suggests frusol for 1 week just in case its fluid and re x ray but thats another £73 {over £ 200 since Christmas). She is a much loved pet but we are not made of money. The other option is , frusol for 1 week, continue doxycycline, continue, fortekor, continue metcam and then stop one med to see how she reacts, a process of elimination really. Daisy is now really well, she has gained 20g since Friday, she is eating loads. So its a waiting game now.
 
Hmmm, that's common with a heart pig that you can't see much on the xray because of fluid. I completely agree with trying Frusol, please be careful withdrawing heart meds though as it can cause a pig that is reliant on them to crash. Once on heart meds then they should be on them for life. Maybe withdraw the Doxy first and see.
 
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Hmmm, that's common with a heart pig that you can't see much on the xray because of fluid. I completely agree with trying Frusol, please be careful withdrawing heart meds though as it can cause a pig that is reliant on them to crash. Once on heart meds then they should be on them for life. Maybe withdraw the Doxy first and see.
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Yes that was my thoughts, I will speak will speak with the vet again next week. The frusol is very thin consistency and I ended up with it all down her chin.
 
This is very frustrating. Although Daisy is eating well her breathing is jerky again with her tummy moving. I just don't know what to do with her, she has had all her meds but is starting to look poorly again. I just wish we knew what the problem is.
 
That's not good, is she still on the Frusol? and the bronchial dilator?
 
She is on the frusol but the vet did not send any more broncho dilator with her meds when hubby picked her up on mon and I only had enough to last till mon. Her breathing changed before she was due her next dose though, I will ring vet as soon as they open.
 
So it may not be that then. What dose of Frusol is she on?
 
The bottle says20xfrusol 20mg/5ml per ml. One ml twice daily for 7 days and she had her first dose Monday evening. I am waiting for a call from vet. They took some bloods on mon but the vet did not say what this could be tested for, they said they could store for 2 days.
 
The exotic vet has spoken with my local vet and I will be able to collect the broncho dilator meds later today from the vet that is 10 mins away. Exotic vet says to give them a call in a few days.
 
That's good. Not sure about the Frusol dose as use Furosemide tablets myself but tend to dose at at least 2.5mg with them when needed.
 
Update on Daisy.....2014-02-15 21.20.06.webp she seems to be feeling lots better2014-02-15 21.20.06.webp . We will have to see what happens when the meds are reduced.
 
What a pretty lady. Keeping everything crossed for Daisy x
 
I am beginning to think that we will never get to the bottom of Daisys illness! She is breathing faster again and slightly clicky breathing. She is still on heart meds and broncho dilator. Had las abx was Sunday morning and Frusol monday morning. One minute she is eating everything in site, fresh, hay, pellets and playing follow my leader with jasper and the next we hear this clicking noise and she is breathing faster and huddled up. The first x ray was inconclusive, at a loss what to do for the best.
 
So has this changed since the Frusol was stopped yesterday? It may be the doses that are wrong, her heart med may need increasing and the Frusol too if she is a heart pig.
 
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So has this changed since the FrusoI was stopped yesterday? It may be the doses that are wrong, her heart med may need increasing and the Frusol too if she is a heart pig.
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She has been well since last weds, I stopped the frusol after 7 days as that was the Instructions. I am v unsure on the dosage of the fortekor, I think it is too low but it is not clear from the bottle exactly how many mg she is having.
 
Is it possible to find out the mg from your vet? The article I linked you to has some information in the scope for dosing. It may be that she needs to be kept on the Frusol for a while if it has not cleared things, and the dose may need adjusting too.
 
I will be ringing the vet in the morning, they never give much medication, I have just given her the last of the frusol to see if it helps her,so would need another lot. Given her metcam as well. The vet just seems to want another x ray but I am concerned that it would be inconclusive again.
 
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