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Possible Baytril Cost ?

Bella123

Bella123

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Hi,

I was quoted over the phone £108 for 100ml bottle of baytril.

The receptionist couldn't give me a definate price as it would obviously depend on the strength and mls.

It would be for Fifis toe, she has banged it against something, and there might be a possible infection, it's not certain that there is one yet, but I'm giving her metacam over the next 5 days if things get worse I take her back to the vets.

I understand there are two concentrations of baytril 2.5% and 10%.

I have done a search on the forum and on possible dosage, I know this would be dependent on her weight, which is roughly 1140g to 1160g.

Could someone tell me approximately what concentration and possible dosage she would need going by her potential symptoms.

It's so I can ring the vets up to ask the price again but this time with more information so I may get a definite price.

Anybodys baytril costs, dosages and concenteations for your piggies in the past would also be helpful to me.

Thanks
 
Well it's been roughly £10-£15 for over a weeks worth of baytril every time I've got it, think it was £12 odd for my sow who was roughly 1kg at the time for a urine infection. I think she was having 0.6mls twice a day if I remember correctly. My vet always gives me a bit more just incase it gets spilled or spat out at me :))

Sorry I can't be much help in the other parts of your post! Hope this helps some how :)
 
As a forum we cannot advise on concentration and dosage - that is a matter for a qualified vet to do so.

But my piggies have only ever needed a small amount over a limited period. My vets dispense a small amount (to cover the limited amount needed for x number of days) and I've never bought a 100ml bottle. I cannot imagine a responsible vet dispensing 100ml to an owner.
I suspect that the receptionist can only give you the information on the system and that is the price per 100ml. On that basis if you budget for about £10.80 for 10mls you should be about right. I don't think my vets would give more than that in one go and would want to see the piggy again to check all was well.
 
Ditto to VickiA, the vet should be giving you the concentration and dosage instructions.

I do remember years ago getting a 100ml bottle (no idea of the concentration) for about £35.

The cheapest I've had is an amount dispensed into one of the small brown bottles, and it was £5. I was really shocked at how cheap that vet visit was. My vet visits are usually 3 figures not 1!
 
Just wondering what supplies I need on hand to keep Fifi healthy whilst taking baytril.

I am preparing a shopping list and wanted to make sure I haven't missed anything.

Here are some of the things I am going to get

http://www.petsathome.com/shop/en/pets/proc-probiotic-100gm

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Oxbow-Critical-Care-Herbivores-
Pack/dp/B004W7511K/ref=sr_1_1?rps=1&ie=UTF8&qid=1497584569&sr=8-1&keywords=critical+care+oxbow

And here are some of the things I already have:

Oxbow vitamin c supplements,

Diorylyte

Would she need fibreplex as well, or would the pro c be good enough on it's own?

Also any important advice regarding antibiotics would also be helpful.

Thanks
 
You have plenty of things :) Well done for doing your research.

It's a good idea to give Pro c to a guinea pig on Baytril to maintain the gut flora.

I would only give Critical Care if she isn't eating - and she won't need Fibreplex as well as probiorics
 
PiggyOwner said:
You have plenty of things :) Well done for doing your research.

It's a good idea to give Pro c to a guinea pig on Baytril to maintain the gut flora.

I would only give Critical Care if she isn't eating - and she won't need Fibreplex as well as probiorics
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Thanks for being most helpful, I was reluctant to make another thread regarding the baytril as there are people who have more important health emergencies /problems, but I feel less guilty now after your nice comment :)
 
Critical Care is something we should always keep at home especially when the piggie is a risk of being weak. Vit C is BASIC, because during stressful periods piggies (and humans) need a greater dose of vit C which boosts immunitary system. I would prefer a serious supplement in drops, the one for humans and the only one really guaranteed (vit C in tablets might have part of the vitamin oxidated), but you have it at home, therefore it is okay. For mantaining the bacteria into the gut it is important also the amount of fibre, therefore hay and/or grass; but this is something the piggie can do even at the end of his treatment.
Considering that the vit C cannot be stored into the body, give him a little amount a time. (This is another good reason for preferring the drops... but maybe also the oxbow tablets can be cut in several parts)
 
Vetark Critical Care Formula

I prefer to use the Vetark critical care formula, ! It boost there nutrients and body fluids ! It mixes into a liquid that gets
Into the pigs system almost imedeatly!
As for the syringe paste, l grind there food pellet's in a coffee grinder and mix the powder with water !
That way you are not changing food at a time when there tummies are already stressed
 
@Claire W Oh dear, that's really sad to hear - it seems she has a very caring piggy mom looking after her at the moment, wishing her all the healing and help she can get to make her better.:luv:
 
I would recommend to just give a pinch of pro C either 1-2 hours after the baytril (UK recommendation) or 1 hour before giving it (US recommendation). Despite what you are reading, the majority of piggies actually tolerate baytril well or may just have slightly softer poos.
Like with so many health issues, you do get a rather distorted picture when researching online as you only see the horror stories, but rarely the success stories. That is an aspect that you always need to keep in mind. ;)

You only need a recovery formula powder in case there is loss of appetite/over 50g of weight; however it is always good to have probiotics and recovery (any brand of either will do) at home in case of an emergency.
The amount you feed depends on whether it is just a top up or whether there is complete loss of appetite. If the taste of the recovery food is not welcome, you can always mix it with mushed pellets. Make sure that you prep the tip of the syringe as shown in our guide to ensure that the fibre goes through the narrow bit if that is not the case.
Complete Syringe Feeding Guide

Vitamin C is mostly needed short term to help boost the immune system. Do not be tempted to give high doses long term, as that can lead to your piggy developing symptoms of scurvy whenever the very high level drops for some reason. Most piggies are perfectly fine with reinforced pellets and regular daily vitamin C veg and fresh herbs.

Fibreplex is for the recovery from tummy upsets or if the appetite has been badly impacted by an antibiotic (which can happen with any antibiotic, not just baytril). It helps to rebuild the gut fauna and to rebalance the guts again. A course is quite expensive, so I would not order on spec and only if it is really needed.
 
Wiebke said:
I would recommend to just give a pinch of pro C either 1-2 hours after the baytril (UK recommendation) or 1 hour before giving it (US recommendation). Despite what you are reading, the majority of piggies actually tolerate baytril well or may just have slightly softer poos.
Like with so many health issues, you do get a rather distorted picture when researching online as you only see the horror stories, but rarely the success stories. That is an aspect that you always need to keep in mind. ;)

You only need a recovery formula powder in case there is loss of appetite/over 50g of weight; however it is always good to have probiotics and recovery (any brand of either will do) at home in case of an emergency.
The amount you feed depends on whether it is just a top up or whether there is complete loss of appetite. If the taste of the recovery food is not welcome, you can always mix it with mushed pellets. Make sure that you prep the tip of the syringe as shown in our guide to ensure that the fibre goes through the narrow bit if that is not the case.
Complete Syringe Feeding Guide

Vitamin C is mostly needed short term to help boost the immune system. Do not be tempted to give high doses long term, as that can lead to your piggy developing symptoms of scurvy whenever the very high level drops for some reason. Most piggies are perfectly fine with reinforced pellets and regular daily vitamin C veg and fresh herbs.

Fibreplex is for the recovery from tummy upsets or if the appetite has been badly impacted by an antibiotic (which can happen with any antibiotic, not just baytril). It helps to rebuild the gut fauna and to rebalance the guts again. A course is quite expensive, so I would not order on spec and only if it is really needed.
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Thanks for all the info, it's going to be of great help!
 
That'a shockingly high cost (i.e. a significant markup) for a bottle of baytril. I've recently had to blanket treat all my mice and that was £40 inc tax per 100ml bottle. However last month was only the 2nd time ever I've bought baytril by the bottle in 21yrs of rodent keeping; for a smaller total animal bodyweight and/ or short course I would be expecting the vet to dispense a smaller amount.

I would phone up and talk directly to the vet tbh.
 
@Wiebke went to the vets for Fifi today. She has prescribed the Baytril. The instructions I have been given say I should give 0.2ml twice a day.

Would 12 hours in between each 0.2ml dose be ok so for example every moning and night for 7 days?

And also the probiotic should be given after each dose not just once a day 1 -2 hours after?
 
Bella123 said:
@Wiebke went to the vets for Fifi today. She has prescribed the Baytril. The instructions I have been given say I should give 0.2ml twice a day.

Would 12 hours in between each 0.2ml dose be ok so for example every moning and night for 7 days?

And also the probiotic should be given after each dose not just once a day 1 -2 hours after?
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In addition can the metacam be given at the same time as the baytril, before or after or do I have to wait a safe time frame?
 
Bella123 said:
@Wiebke went to the vets for Fifi today. She has prescribed the Baytril. The instructions I have been given say I should give 0.2ml twice a day.

Would 12 hours in between each 0.2ml dose be ok so for example every moning and night for 7 days?

And also the probiotic should be given after each dose not just once a day 1 -2 hours after?
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Yes, you can split the dose, but give probiotics each time you give an antibiotic.
 
Wiebke said:
Yes, you can split the dose, but give probiotics each time you give an antibiotic.
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Thanks for that, sorry I forgot to ask, you see there was a lot of info gave by the vet today so its hard to absorb everything, but can the metacam be given at the same time eg before after the baytril, as Fifi needs to continue this.
 
@VickiA I was wondering if you tell me whether its safe to give baytril straight away before or after metacam,. I didn't want to ask again but tried asking wiebke but unfortunately she hasn't got back to me, and need to give the metacam and baytril tomorrow morning.
 
:agr: It's absolutely fine to give both at same time. Also they love metacam so if you give that after Baytril they have a pleasant taste after you've finished giving them something horrid.
 
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