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Romeo is not well

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Oh no poor Romeo, when I had him he was such a lovely pig and never had any problems :( Hope he gets better xx

Could be a URI, the poor little fella
 
I would be interested in getting a urine sample into the vet, I had a pig who was unwell for a period of time not drastically it was small things. I remember returning home from work and found her drenched in her urine all round her bum, looking very miserable.

The problem with pigs - you can allocate symptoms to pigs and it's not always the same illness on many occasions it's something totally different but if he was my pig I would be interested in ruling out protein in the urine due to infection, glucose (Diabetes) and blood of course. An X-ray for bladder stones to, as they aren't always found by palpation.

Keep a close eye on his weight, poops and food intake.

I do however hope the Baytril does the trick but if you do have to go back, worthwhile taking a urine sample.

i tried to get a urine sample before taking him to the vets yesterday, but i will put him in the box for longer on thurs and hope he obliges, i am afraid though it looks more and more likely he and marble have fallen out, as marble is in the corner of the c & c cage , not looking happy, and there is teeth chattering going on, so its two food bowls, two water bottles, and two houses(although there always was ) i just cant think why they have decided to fall out, there was no more blood in the cage today, so i am thinking maybe it is because romeo is nt well they are keeping their distance from each other? i really dont want to part these two at this stage, aargh i dont know what to do !
 
i tried to get a urine sample before taking him to the vets yesterday, but i will put him in the box for longer on thurs and hope he obliges, i am afraid though it looks more and more likely he and marble have fallen out, as marble is in the corner of the c & c cage , not looking happy, and there is teeth chattering going on, so its two food bowls, two water bottles, and two houses(although there always was ) i just cant think why they have decided to fall out, there was no more blood in the cage today, so i am thinking maybe it is because romeo is nt well they are keeping their distance from each other? i really dont want to part these two at this stage, aargh i dont know what to do !

I'm sorry that it seems they may have fallen out, sadly when I obviously gave them to you I cannot predict that they'll be bestest buds forever :( I did though think that they'd make a new pair though as they both seemed to get on fine and were both quite docile.
 
I'm sorry that it seems they may have fallen out, sadly when I obviously gave them to you I cannot predict that they'll be bestest buds forever :( I did though think that they'd make a new pair though as they both seemed to get on fine and were both quite docile.

no of course you could nt predict how things would go with marble and romeo! no way am i pointing any fingers :( i am watching them very carefully, and am considering a bonding bath, but am wary of doing it until i am sure that romeo is well, as dont want to bathe a poorly pig, whatever happens, we will be keeping both of them, seperate or together..... these things are sent to try us ! i am going to get them both out shortly, on my lap and see how they react x
 
well i am sorry to say having them both out on my lap did nt go too well, they were very prickly with each other, and tried to bite each other, it was also weighing time tonight, and both have lost weight (despite me saying in an earlier post that romeo had nt- i was going by the vets weight in kg s we weigh in lbs, got my sums wrong), so i think they are both pretty stressed, i feel so sad these boys, who got on so well, now obviously dont .
 
well i am sorry to say having them both out on my lap did nt go too well, they were very prickly with each other, and tried to bite each other, it was also weighing time tonight, and both have lost weight (despite me saying in an earlier post that romeo had nt- i was going by the vets weight in kg s we weigh in lbs, got my sums wrong), so i think they are both pretty stressed, i feel so sad these boys, who got on so well, now obviously dont .

I'm sorry to hear they don't seem to be getting along :( maybe try marble or romeo with your other boar that is living alone and see if that works?

Boars can be sooo frustrating! Sometimes I wonder why I don't just have sows. I thought Sky and Loki were doing great and then the day after Marble and Romeo left, Loki was getting aggressive and well now they've been separated for over three months. Same with Bounty who is very aggressive to other boars.
 
I'm sorry to hear they don't seem to be getting along :( maybe try marble or romeo with your other boar that is living alone and see if that works?

Boars can be sooo frustrating! Sometimes I wonder why I don't just have sows. I thought Sky and Loki were doing great and then the day after Marble and Romeo left, Loki was getting aggressive and well now they've been separated for over three months. Same with Bounty who is very aggressive to other boars.

yes you are right about boars! i have put a grid down the middle of romeo and marble now, and yes i was thinking of tryinng marble with hartley, when everything has settled down, as i believe now that both of these boys were the less aggressive in their previous groups, i havve two weeks off over christmas , so may try then,honestly , i started off with three happy, together and two happy together,, now i have two happy together and three seperate ! its a good job we love our piggies, and will persevere!
 
yes you are right about boars! i have put a grid down the middle of romeo and marble now, and yes i was thinking of tryinng marble with hartley, when everything has settled down, as i believe now that both of these boys were the less aggressive in their previous groups, i havve two weeks off over christmas , so may try then,honestly , i started off with three happy, together and two happy together,, now i have two happy together and three seperate ! its a good job we love our piggies, and will persevere!

I agree! I've never had so much trouble with boars! I started with two happy pairs, then I had one happy pair and two singles, then I had a trio and a single, then I went back to a pair and two singles. Then I had two happy pairs and a single and then three singles and one pair and now I'm two pairs and two singles

rolleyes

Hopefully Marble will get along with Hartley, out of the two of them, Marble seemed the least dominant. Romeo is obviously coming onto his own now, as did my Loki.
 
yes i think romeo is the more dominant but came off worse in a tussle with rmarble because he is much bigger than him! hartley was definitely pushed out by liquorice in the three i had together, i will take romeo back to the vet though on thurs, just to make sure nothing has been missed x and yes sows sound easier, in fact i had a herd of sows about 15 yrs ago, and never had any problems x
 
well on a positive note (i have to see a positive in this situation) if it means romeo is not ill, that is a good thing!
 
yes , that is why i am still planning on taking him back on thurs,but i think he was probably bitten on the bum by marble, guess that hurt! so perhaps the pain of that is making him wince, but as BOTH have lost some weight, but none of my others have, i think it points to something stress related, what do you think piggy fan ?
 
Maybe the poor baby was bitten then. It does sound that way but it does not make sense they have both lost weight. I see you have separated them now how about weighing them tomorrow to see if there is any change? What is he like now and how is he acting?
 
i think it does make sense they have both lost weight, as they were both pretty stressed out ,o ** each end of the c&c, marble seems more tense than romeo, until i put the divide up he wouldn t go in his house his end of the cage, just sat in the corner, whereas romeo was in his, both seem quiet now, but both are in their individual beds, i hope i get some squeaking in the morning when i take thier veggies in , it has been very quiet these past two mornings x
 
perhaps it was the stress of them fighting then. What a huge shame. It cannot be helped. I hope they can learn to live side by side with each other or you may have to have to c and c cages.
 
last post today! i have just gone to check on them before i go off to bed, and both are out eating, so that is good, i already have an upper floor on their c& c cage, which house the other three! at this rate my hole house *** go over to c&c cages!
 
I can't offer an explanation for the eyes squinting, other than to agree that it is likely they are stressed from fighting/not being able to get away from the other.

I would like to share something I found with my two though, about the blood and the perceived lack of injury.

Branston and Pickle get on fine most of the time, but occasionally one of them decides he's frisky, and chases/mounts/dominates the other relentlessly for a few hours. It stresses them both out for a small while, then they go back to being best of friends.

Usually we don't intervene unless they are really about to get stressed (and by intervene I mean seperate them), but on two occasions I've had to do so - because Pickle got so fed up with being chased that he bit Branston on the nose.

It was unusual for a couple of reasons - firstly, there was loads of blood, probably because those incisors are so sharp; secondly, because within about ten minutes you wouldn't be able to tell there had been a bite.

Before I'd had chance to wipe the blood off/stem the bleeding, Branston had completely cleaned himself of any blood, and the cut was nowhere to be seen.

I believe that, like some other prey animals, guinea pigs have amongst their defence armoury an extra coagulant or clotting saliva, which enables them to hide injury from predators.

Basically, he's cleaned himself and licked the cut, and it's sealed and closed very quickly, and combined with his hair, it's now invisible.

So if you have come home to find a piggy that has blood where he's been sat, and either no blood on him or no injury, it could well be that he's taken care of it himself.

Sorry for the long post, just my thoughts on the subject. Hope your pigwigs get well soon, and can stop scrapping :(
 
I can't offer an explanation for the eyes squinting, other than to agree that it is likely they are stressed from fighting/not being able to get away from the other.

I would like to share something I found with my two though, about the blood and the perceived lack of injury.

Branston and Pickle get on fine most of the time, but occasionally one of them decides he's frisky, and chases/mounts/dominates the other relentlessly for a few hours. It stresses them both out for a small while, then they go back to being best of friends.

Usually we don't intervene unless they are really about to get stressed (and by intervene I mean seperate them), but on two occasions I've had to do so - because Pickle got so fed up with being chased that he bit Branston on the nose.

It was unusual for a couple of reasons - firstly, there was loads of blood, probably because those incisors are so sharp; secondly, because within about ten minutes you wouldn't be able to tell there had been a bite.

Before I'd had chance to wipe the blood off/stem the bleeding, Branston had completely cleaned himself of any blood, and the cut was nowhere to be seen.

I believe that, like some other prey animals, guinea pigs have amongst their defence armoury an extra coagulant or clotting saliva, which enables them to hide injury from predators.

Basically, he's cleaned himself and licked the cut, and it's sealed and closed very quickly, and combined with his hair, it's now invisible.

So if you have come home to find a piggy that has blood where he's been sat, and either no blood on him or no injury, it could well be that he's taken care of it himself.

Sorry for the long post, just my thoughts on the subject. Hope your pigwigs get well soon, and can stop scrapping :(

thankyou so much for that x i got romeo out AGAIN last night, as i was so certain he was nt passing blood in urine, as there has been no sign since, and i looked Very closely at his nose, and yes, there is a tiny nick on it, so i am guessing this is what happened here, he was bitten on the nose, and then, probably wiped it all round his back legs, maybe eating poo? he is now eating well, and squeaking for his breakfast, i will finish baytril, i phoned the vet and explained what i was sure had happened, and he said he did nt need to see him again, so now do i try to introduce these silly boys again? marble seems lonlier thamn romeo, or try marble with my lone boy hartley, who is only 5 mths? oh decisions decisions, any advice greatly recieved !
 
romeo is now back to normal, marble does seem a bit quiet,so this afternoon, my daughter and me sat on the floor right next to each other, she had hartley (our other lone piggy) and marble on my lap, hartley took one look at marble dived across onto me, bit of sniffing and rumble strut noise from hartley,marble was quite happy with all this, then hartley laid down as close as he could get to marble they looked so happy, tomorrow we shall try some floor time and see how that goes , but it does look promising, i really hope they can live together.
 
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