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Eddie Had A Dental Today

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i didn't give him anything else just incase, but stayed up all night to make sure he was ok and at least something was coming through, which it was but only tiny bits of poop and mucus.

spoken to the vet this morning and he's taken eddie off the doxycycline. he doesn't know if it's definitely that but it seems likely because he only started it friday. he said most gas will be passed without the need for anything else (because he's on metoclopramide already), but if i wanted to, i could give him some infacol aswell which will hopefully help by 'popping' the gas bubbles. and to continue with the gentle massage/vibration and hopefully things will pick up again now he's stopped the antibiotic. if not, then obviously we'll be back there again.

continue syringe feeding little and often aswell, making sure there is something coming through.

poor eddie.
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i asked the vet about infacol and the torsion and he had never heard of that. he said he couldn't see how that could happen as infacol 'pops' the bubbles rather than forms them into one big bubble. i remembered reading about it so thought i'd ask. he said no to gripe water and buscopan when i asked about those. he doesn't think they'd do the right thing in eddie's case. so confusing.
 
helen105281 said:
I know of vets who advise against Infacol for the exact reason I said. I wish they would all agree. Gripe water naturally disperses the bubbles.
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it would be good if they all agreed. :mal: the vet thinks eddie should beable to get the gas through anyway with just the metoclopramide and cisapride so i'm holding off giving anything else for now and just monitoring him.

he's doing well with small feeds regularly and i tried a new way to give the avipro (a pinch in 1ml of water instead of added to the feed) and he much prefers that.

he really likes having his tummy vibrated aswell. he stands on my hands so his bum is lifted and i vibrate him. or massage gently. or use the electric toothbrush. his tummy feels better than it did earlier and now when i massage him, little tiny bits of poop and mucus come out. so his tummy is moving at least, but the poops are terrible.

we already think he seems a bit better off the antibiotic. not sure how long it takes to come out of their system, but his last one was yesterday morning. i chose not to give it this morning until i'd spoken to the vet again.

so fingers crossed yet again. x
 
That sounds promising, if you can get him moving about that would be good too. Fluids, massage and movement tend to be the best things for gas.
 
helen105281 said:
That sounds promising, if you can get him moving about that would be good too. Fluids, massage and movement tend to be the best things for gas.
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he definitely needs to move around more. he just sits in his cosy tunnel between feeds at the moment. i would also prefer he had more fluid aswell really. he has the water mixed with the critical care. he doesn't like much plain water syringed but was better with the avipro plus added. can i still give it every feed if i'm mixing a pinch with 1ml water? before i just added a pinch to each feed, but he didn't have the whole lot so not sure exactly how much he got.

i've had to do yet another order to get another big bag of critical care, so got some of the oxbow vitamin c aswell. i'll just crush that and syringe with water aswell to try and get some more in him. x
 
Yes there is no limit really to the amount of probiotic they can have. Mine love it and queue up for the syringe.

Could you get Mollie moving about so he follows her?
 
helen105281 said:
Yes there is no limit really to the amount of probiotic they can have. Mine love it and queue up for the syringe.

Could you get Mollie moving about so he follows her?
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brilliant. he drinks the water from the syringe by himself with the avipro in so i'll beable to get him drinking more now.

if i move the boxes and tunnels out, they usually follow each other around so i'll regularly try that. or i could even put a blanket down on the floor and let them explore. maybe a gentle tap on the backside aswell to help him along :)) :luv:
 
we're pretty sure it was the doxycycline now. he's brightened up a bit more and the last feed went really well, and he loves the avipro plus water so that sparked something in him and he then wanted lots of water from his bottle. i had the task of being bottle holder for him. my arm was burning! but his little face lit up when he was drinking :luv:

when he went back to the cage, i didn't put any boxes or tunnels in for a few mins so he would walk around a bit, just to help move the gas along. he actually went and nibbled a teeny bit of hay. he didn't want his tea but i don't think that's such a bad thing with him having a gassy tum. he still sounds gassy but there is some poop coming through so hopefully the amount will increase gradually.

i'm happy he's taking feeds well again, and loving his water again which is so important. and i massage his tummy after and then cuddle him and vibrate him on my knee, which he actually really likes :)) i love cuddles with him :luv:

just about to do another feed so hopefully it will go well again. it's very up and down with him, but i'm proud of how he's doing. he's very determined :luv:
 
thanks for thinking of us.

he's about the same today.. taking feeds and water ok. still little and often. i do wish i could get more into him but have to take it at his pace. but now he's not eating much by himself, he obviously should be having more and now we have the risk that his teeth will over-grow again. but he's stable weight wise today, although his lowest ever. and he's keeping warm. still sounds quite gassy but his tummy is still moving, but very slowly. his poop is either tiny or in mucus strings. x
 
o/h's stuck on a bus somewhere so i've had to try and feed eds on my own. it didn't go well. he just won't take much when it's just me. i'm trying my best but it's not good enough. i don't know how people get them to take so much each feed.
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i feel totally useless.

how are we going to get him back to normal?
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eds ate a little bit of tea but i don't even know if that's good or bad now because he's gassy. he wants to eat but he can't. surely if he wants to eat but he's not, it's got to be to do with his mouth still?

i really don't have a clue what i'm doing. :(:(:(
 
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eds ate a little bit of tea but i don't even know if that's good or bad now because he's gassy. he wants to eat but he can't. surely if he wants to eat but he's not, it's got to be to do with his mouth still?

i really don't have a clue what i'm doing. :(:(:(
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God tell me about it my heart is roasted poor boys :(
 
You're doing everything you can and right by what you put. It's hard looking after sick little ones. Chin up you're doing really well! He has come this far x
 
Poor boy :( Has the vet ruled out oral thrush or any trauma in his mouth post surgery (Abscess in the jaw or inside somewhere?) Petal gets gassy episodes after some antibiotics, she can't tolerate Zithromax at all but is fine on Marbocyl. It's such a hard thing to get the balance right sometimes :( Sending Eddie lots of healing vibes & hugs to you xx
 
How long post dental is he now? It sounds like he has a very sore mouth, and he needs his mouth examining to find out what is going on. It could be an oral thrush, but I am thinking it is more likely to be ulceration caused by rubbing teeth. Is there any way you could get him here to see Simon?
 
sorry for not updating sooner. i'm a mess. eds perked up but then suddenly crashed. he's at the vets. he has kidney disease. the outlook is not good. :(
 
thanks. they're getting fluids into him, two meds i can't remember the name of. can't remember the details but basically to see if he responds and therefore can remain comfortable for a while, or whether it's best to let him go. will do whatever is best for eddie of course. x
 
biscandmatt said:
thanks. they're getting fluids into him, two meds i can't remember the name of. can't remember the details but basically to see if he responds and therefore can remain comfortable for a while, or whether it's best to let him go. will do whatever is best for eddie of course. x
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I have my fingers crossed for you and the little man xx:hug:
 
Oh no, I am so sorry, thoughts are with you and Eddie, lots of love. x x
 
thanks so much. i should have posted sooner but just shut down really. been to see them tonight (mollie is with eddie) and spent some time with him. my sweet little eddie bear. i miss them not being here at home.
 
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