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Specialist Emergency Possible Life And Death - Throat Abscess

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MooMoo&Nibbles

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I cane by and nibbles the white one had this.
Moo was rubbing nibbles and cuddling and brushing his nose.

No vet in today going tomorro.
There cage divider isnt so great.

I put them together and they teeth chatterd and moo went to his wound under his neck.

Here is pics.

Moo wont leave the cage divider alone and biting the bars no break.


What do i do?

Its his throat and blood.

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Is there a piece of correx you can put on one side of the cage bars so the other pig can't get to him?
 
That looks nasty! :(

Please disinfect with saline solution, ideally sterile one from the pharmacy. He may also need an antibiotic, so please have him seen tomorrow.

On closer inspection I don't think that the boys have been fighting, but it could be a burst cyst or abscess and not a bite.

It is normal for a boar to want to be back with his friend. Have you got something opaque like some coroplast or cardboard that you can tie to the separating grids?
 
Earlyer they were pop corning and running arround and cuddling and sleeping together
 
Boys that have had a serious fight would not sit next to each other and interact in a friendly way; a serious fight will rock both and they would show it with their behaviour towards each other - usually either avoiding each other or showing some serious teeth chattering, hair standing on end etc. when they meet.

A full on bite is usually two puncture marks or a long gash from a glancing blow.
 
Wiebke said:
Boys that have had a serious fight would not sit next to each other and interact in a friendly way; a serious fight will rock both and they would show it with their behaviour towards each other - usually either avoiding each other or showing some serious teeth chattering, hair standing on end etc. when they meet.

A full on bite is usually two puncture marks or a long gash from a glancing blow.
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one minute there happy. Nest minute there on there backs teeth chattering.

i put them together nibbles humped moo.
moo sat and laid down and took it.
Then they got up about 3minutes later snd they got on there sides teeth chatterd and moo went to his throat under his chin. Twice.
dont knownif biting or what. I think he nibbled it?
Dont know.


I put a bowl of food. Moo was in the corner. And bowl in middle. Then nobbles went to it wanted some but refused and walked arround it and did not stop intill i made him i picked moo up to see if it was a enimey and thats why he didnt eat infront of him and he still didnt eat
 
Moo is still trying to bite the cage open.
He will break his teeth at his rate. He hasent tooken a break and hes biting hard. We have the wrong stuff and cant cover the open grids.
About to sleep daughter has us stay up to 11am we havent been asleep since yesterday.
His neck i dont know if he is still bleeding or he will bleed out? I'm at my limit ill be asleep this hour
 
MooMoo&Nibbles said:
Moo is still trying to bite the cage open.
He will break his teeth at his rate. He hasent tooken a break and hes biting hard. We have the wrong stuff and cant cover the open grids.
About to sleep daughter has us stay up to 11am we havent been asleep since yesterday.
His neck i dont know if he is still bleeding or he will bleed out? I'm at my limit ill be asleep this hour
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If it is just a burst cyst, as I suspect, he will not bleed out. Can you make your own disinfectant by mixing 1 teaspoon of salt into 1 pint of boiled, cooled water?

Have you got a container like a laundry crate you can put Moo in for the time being?
 
Poor little one! Hope all goes well at the vets. Sending healing vibes!
 
I agree with Wiebke that it looks more like a burst abscess than a bite. Either way the best thing you can do is to clean it as much as you can with salty water (boiled and cooled). I think that Moo may be licking at the wound to try to help. I have not known of a guinea pig who broke their teeth by biting on the bars, so please try not to worry. I would try to keep them separate until you have seen the vet and get some rest. When you're this tired, it all seems so much worse.
 
Just woke up ill do the solution soon.
I just dont understand why theh wouldnteeth chatter and nibbles would go to it while foghting/back leg teeth chatter
 
How will the vets know if they were fighting or not? One of them is whimpering so I'm gona check them
 
I got them both. clipped there nails so there not sharp anymore.
I never heared them purr before and moo went up to nibbles purred his heart out and nuzzled him.
they both ate.
nibbles wouldnt stop jumping moo.
when does he ever stop.
They had veggie treats for clipping there nails and took veggies from out each other mouths and said mine! No!

I didnt boil water or anything i had some h2ocean peirceing cleaner. Salt water purified solution
And sprayed on a cotton ball and swiprd his neck. Had to fight him.
there back in there cage sith a divider.
but his neck looked bad and fur was ripped out. I still dont know.
 
The vet should be able to tell by looking at his wound.

As @Flutterby asking, have you booked him into the vets yet? he might need antibiotics, if they do give him antibiotics, remember to get some probiotics. I don't know the brands in the US though :(
 
Ive been up sence last night agian very sleepy and tierd.
I'm taking them today.
I dont understand.
Moo was snuzzling him before we noticed the wound. Then later i set them down together and they teeth chatterd and moo went straight to his throat or wound cant tell if licking if nibbling.
But kf it was to lick it why teeth chatter loudly?
And later last night i put them both in a tub supervised and moo purred loudly snd nuzzled him closely.
 
It's just dominance behaviour, you worry too much :P Wait and see what the vet says about the wound and get some advice from them about the teeth chattering etc. :) Hopefully it's what Wiebke said and not a bite. Our girls were chattering their teeth at each other the other day, as long as they aren't kicking the snot out of each other, we just leave them to it and just keep an eye on them.

My two himi's had a fight, they wounded each other but it was more puncture holes than a big open wound, one also cut his paw. We cleaned them up and they were fine, but we had to split because we had witnessed them have a proper full on fight.
 
My boys had a massive fight and one had some nasty bites. When boars draw blood they very very rarely will interact positively with eachother again. I am no expert but that as others state does not look like a bite.

The bites Edgar had from Poe looked long and rectangular. I agree it does look like a burst cyst or something.

The fact they are still nuzzling ect is positive. Maybe the other piggy keeps going there to help " clean " its a natural reaction for bonded animals to groom and look after eachother.

Also seeing pigs fight its a very awkward area for another pig to attack the underside of the throat, normally they mount etc so majority of wounds were on my boys backs and sides.
I.may be wrong however

Good luck at the vets
 
He went to vet I'm writing what happened now its going to take me a minute I'm going to ask everyones personal thoughts an impinions its very importan to me. Thanks!
 
He went to the vet nibbs.
And the male vet picked him up on his back so his tunmy was pointing up. And when he got a look he squirted blood all over.
It was what you guys said he had. They took him in the back and shaved his neck and got the rest of what theh could blood snd pus out.
I have cherry flavored antibiotics
To give nibbles twice a day. I showed them a picture of moos ear and they said because what it looks like and fluid leaking he has the same thing To get him in next week and share nibbs medicine for now then when i get moo in and moos mediicne to share it with nibbs.
160usd vet bill.
I'm over 1000dollars in them and ive only had them 2-4months.

He said it looked like a fight wound or not look but it probaly was and it happened in my care sence i bought him.
But then he said it could of been one of there nails or a toy or something like a needle size and it got built up and exploded he cant tell.
Its open flesh they shaved him and he is kind of bloody still.
I was talking to the vet and no warning he squirted blood all over the room upwards j swear some went in my mouth but anyways.
I dont know what to do.
Said to use cage divider like I'm doing now and seperate them till its healed and okay and steady.
So they both have one.
Moo moo on ear
And nibbles ln throat.


Now may i say when i first saw nibbs and the hole was there there was ripped furr on the wound ripped and hanging out.
But vet said if it was recent fight or what not there would not be so much built up pus.

Let them heal and give them one more try.

But i want to understand what the hell happend.

Please help.
 
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