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Little unwell, likely dental. Been given fluids.

That's really interesting.... I know you said Simon wasn't sure but did he have any ideas about why Littles doing this?
 
Zanzan said:
That's really interesting.... I know you said Simon wasn't sure but did he have any ideas about why Littles doing this?
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No, he wasn’t sure. He mentioned that he’s seen this before with guinea pigs after having anaesthetic, it’s like they forget how to pee but they eventually get it back after a few days. He said that perhaps Little thinks there will be pain if he pees so he’s just not doing it. But overall he wasn’t sure why this was happening, only that it wasn’t too concerning yet as the pee can still get out and there’s no blood/sludge coming out with it. He’s hoping that Little will just start doing it again within a few days.
 
Glad to hear that Little is doing OK. Hopefully the peeing problem will resolve itself in the next few days.x
 
That’s good news about little! Sorry I haven’t checked in until now I’ve been working. What a relief that it’s nothing concerning :hug:
 
Thank you all again :) I very much appreciate all your support.
We split Little from Digby Saturday night so we could monitor the pee output. Trying to decide when I should try and put them back together? We also decided to separate as Digby was being quite intrusive to Little which was upsetting him and the last thing I wanted was to stress an already ill Little even further.
 
Little Ones said:
No, he wasn’t sure. He mentioned that he’s seen this before with guinea pigs after having anaesthetic, it’s like they forget how to pee but they eventually get it back after a few days. He said that perhaps Little thinks there will be pain if he pees so he’s just not doing it. But overall he wasn’t sure why this was happening, only that it wasn’t too concerning yet as the pee can still get out and there’s no blood/sludge coming out with it. He’s hoping that Little will just start doing it again within a few days.
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We've had two piggies who were unable to urinate for themselves, after being neutered. They both needed their bladders expressing for a few days, before starting to pee again normally. It happened with Bear, over a year ago and Charlie had the same, last June.
 
Glad the appointment went well and it was positive news, hopefully Little starts to pee again and the problem is sorted in a few days :hug:
 
furryfriends (TEAS) said:
We've had two piggies who were unable to urinate for themselves, after being neutered. They both needed their bladders expressing for a few days, before starting to pee again normally. It happened with Bear, over a year ago and Charlie had the same, last June.
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I didn’t think it was a thing that could happen! It explains why he was off his food/water if he was experiencing discomfort from this, he seemed a lot happier once it had been emptied by Simon. How do I express his bladder? Do I just press on where the bladder is?
 
Qualcast&Flymo said:
Possibly barking up the wrong tree here, but dandelion (aka p$ss-a-bed in the old days!) is a diuretic, maybe giving him some dandelion leaves might make him "let go" and start peeing?
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I didn’t know that, I’ll see if we have any still in the garden and give it a go! It can’t hurt to try, anyway
 
Update: Since Simon emptied his bladder, Little has been doing much better. He’s actually using his water bottle now too which is such a relief. He also seems to have been eating his hay properly, he didn’t want the grass I gave him in the night but went over to his hay instead. I’ll have to check him throughout the day to see if any drops of wee come out when I pick him up, but since he seems to be behaving more normally I’m inclined to think maybe he’s started peeing for himself since Simon emptied his bladder. I don’t want to speak too soon, though!
I was so worried we might lose him and all it seems to have taken is Simon emptying Little’s bladder to get him back to normal! It’s such a relief, but who would’ve thought it would have been so simple? The emergency vet we went to on Friday was on the right track with the bladder after doing the X-ray but still got it wrong by diagnosing cystitis from seeing crystals in the bladder. I can’t remember exactly what Simon said now, but it was something like it would’ve been difficult to tell if what was being seen on the X-ray were ‘crystals’. The overall gist of what Simon was saying about this is that it’s likely to indicate sediment which would produce cloudy pees which Simon said isn’t uncommon and what was seen on the X-ray isn’t anything to worry about from the sounds of it (he hadn’t seen the X-ray though as it wasn’t sent through with the notes). So basically the vet had looked at the X-ray and concluded cystitis despite what was seen on the X-ray not even showing cystitis, especially since Little didn’t have any symptoms either (pain when peeing, blood, etc). Little’s only issue was his full bladder! It’s funny too, when we called and spoke to the same vet on Saturday night after I had been panicking, he said that the bladder won’t be full as it would be really noticeable if it was and we would be able to feel it. And then it ended up being that the bladder was full after all, and I also couldn’t feel it either!
I’m just glad we had Simon there to save the day and that it wasn’t anything worse than this.
 
You'd think he'd be doing it in his sleep if nothing else. Maybe it's like with old men with swollen prostates so he'd like to go but the pressure is in the wrong place.

I was looking at an x-ray once where the young vet was showing 'a stone' in the urethra of my sow but I just couldn't be convinced of it. You could see the outline of the bladder with a little sediment in and then the faint outline of the urethra - it was bright and looked like a stone but the urethra wasn't distorted in any way and I wondered aloud whether it was just sediment waiting to be passed. She said, 'it might be...' Well this was my girl who had passed a stone unexpectedly one day, which was then followed up with this x-ray, the fluid bolus and the opioid injection to "help her pass the second stone) so who knows what happened but there was no more bleeding, no second stone found, and she ended up OK - so I suppose it could have been either. Better safe than sorry I guess!

I'm so pleased for you and Little - they really do worry us sometimes!
 
Little Ones said:
Update: Since Simon emptied his bladder, Little has been doing much better. He’s actually using his water bottle now too which is such a relief. He also seems to have been eating his hay properly, he didn’t want the grass I gave him in the night but went over to his hay instead. I’ll have to check him throughout the day to see if any drops of wee come out when I pick him up, but since he seems to be behaving more normally I’m inclined to think maybe he’s started peeing for himself since Simon emptied his bladder. I don’t want to speak too soon, though!
I was so worried we might lose him and all it seems to have taken is Simon emptying Little’s bladder to get him back to normal! It’s such a relief, but who would’ve thought it would have been so simple? The emergency vet we went to on Friday was on the right track with the bladder after doing the X-ray but still got it wrong by diagnosing cystitis from seeing crystals in the bladder. I can’t remember exactly what Simon said now, but it was something like it would’ve been difficult to tell if what was being seen on the X-ray were ‘crystals’. The overall gist of what Simon was saying about this is that it’s likely to indicate sediment which would produce cloudy pees which Simon said isn’t uncommon and what was seen on the X-ray isn’t anything to worry about from the sounds of it (he hadn’t seen the X-ray though as it wasn’t sent through with the notes). So basically the vet had looked at the X-ray and concluded cystitis despite what was seen on the X-ray not even showing cystitis, especially since Little didn’t have any symptoms either (pain when peeing, blood, etc). Little’s only issue was his full bladder! It’s funny too, when we called and spoke to the same vet on Saturday night after I had been panicking, he said that the bladder won’t be full as it would be really noticeable if it was and we would be able to feel it. And then it ended up being that the bladder was full after all, and I also couldn’t feel it either!
I’m just glad we had Simon there to save the day and that it wasn’t anything worse than this.
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Gosh! So good you went down and saw Simon, it’s such a shame that the other vet was rather out of his depth. So glad Little continues to get better x
 
Little had a drink, turned around and sat for a few seconds and produced this:
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I was quick to take the photo before the evidence disappeared!
Little is peeing for himself with no troubles, it didn’t even look like he was trying to hold it. When Simon emptied Little’s bladder, a switch must have flicked in his head which is probably why he seems a happy chappy and is eating/drinking again. It’s a pain that we had to travel a long way for a simple solution, I wish more vets specialised in piggies! I suppose we are lucky Simon is only a 2 and a half hours drive away as I know there are plenty of people who travel much further.
It seems like we’ve cracked it though and he is sorted. Thank you everyone for the ongoing support, I was really panicked about it all especially since Little is almost 6 and a half. So thank you all for the advice and kind messages, I really appreciated it all. I think I would’ve just about lost my mind about this otherwise!
 
@Little Ones . .hi.
I tho I'd replyed to your messages. . Dopy me.
You have been tho a lot last couple weeks .. .
Very worrying and I really feel for you . .
Great news that Simon given you . . piggie is beautiful and your tlc is amazing.. . Wow never know a pee for a oldie be so welcome. :whistle:
Little you be a good piggie wee and poo away. x
 
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