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Suspected Ringworm

Another ringworm question, on day 4 now of noticing the ring worm, and day 3 of treatment, the site still looks very red and like scabby blood, is this normal at this stage? I know ring worm looks worse before it looks better
 
dannif_piggies said:
Another ringworm question, on day 4 now of noticing the ring worm, and day 3 of treatment, the site still looks very red and like scabby blood, is this normal at this stage? I know ring worm looks worse before it looks better
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Yep that’s normal, it will look the same for at least a week before you start to notice it’s less scabby but still red. The red takes weeks to fade.
 
Pawz said:
Yep that’s normal, it will look the same for at least a week before you start to notice it’s less scabby but still red. The red takes weeks to fade.
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She is only on her oral treatment for a week. And today, surprisingly it already looks much less scabby/dry and more like sore "fresh" skin, I'm assuming this is all good progress 😊
 
Sorry another question, I'm aware spores can stay for 18 months, but at what point does the site stop giving off new spores?
 
dannif_piggies said:
Sorry another question, I'm aware spores can stay for 18 months, but at what point does the site stop giving off new spores?
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I wouldn’t say you are totally safe from fresh spores until it’s totally gone because it’s crazy how fast it can flare back up. Although I have noticed that once the scabby phase has passed then there is a decreased risk.
Remember to keep treating for at least a week after all signs are gone because as stated before it can spring back up out of nowhere just when you think it’s gone!
 
Pawz said:
I wouldn’t say you are totally safe from fresh spores until it’s totally gone because it’s crazy how fast it can flare back up. Although I have noticed that once the scabby phase has passed then there is a decreased risk.
Remember to keep treating for at least a week after all signs are gone because as stated before it can spring back up out of nowhere just when you think it’s gone!
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Thank you for the fast reply, as the vet has only prescribed a weeks worth of medication, should I ask for extra on the check up appointment?
 
dannif_piggies said:
Thank you for the fast reply, as the vet has only prescribed a weeks worth of medication, should I ask for extra on the check up appointment?
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Hmm as she is only on oral I am not sure. All our ringworm treatments were topical ( creams and baths) , we never got tablets because in the case of the cats the tablets they would have required blood tests beforehand.

I’m sure there are other members though who have had pets with oral treatment who could give better information on that. Although I definitely think it’s worth returning to the vet for a follow up just before your tablets are due to run out to see how they think it’s doing.
 
Pawz said:
Hmm as she is only on oral I am not sure. All our ringworm treatments were topical ( creams and baths) , we never got tablets because in the case of the cats the tablets they would have required blood tests beforehand.

I’m sure there are other members though who have had pets with oral treatment who could give better information on that. Although I definitely think it’s worth returning to the vet for a follow up just before your tablets are due to run out to see how they think it’s doing.
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She is on a liquid. The one that is mentioned in the ringworm guide, apparently it works the quickest and most effectively. She had an appointment 2pm on sunday, and finishes her medication Saturday morning. I was also going to give her a one off anti-dandruff shampoo bath, as that apparently removes the spores, and then I was going to give her fresh bedding and deep clean her cage once more
 
dannif_piggies said:
She is on a liquid. The one that is mentioned in the ringworm guide, apparently it works the quickest and most effectively. She had an appointment 2pm on sunday, and finishes her medication Saturday morning. I was also going to give her a one off anti-dandruff shampoo bath, as that apparently removes the spores, and then I was going to give her fresh bedding and deep clean her cage once more
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Sounds like a good plan of action.:nod:
 
Update on Misty, she is settling in great, and she woke me in the night doing zoomies around her cage :) the ringworm site is looking so much better with the tiniest amount of dry scaly skin left and the smallest tiny scab left to come off. The rest of the skin looks so fresh, pink, and healthy, so hopefully the last two remaining days of treatment will do the job for completely treating her ☺️
 
Day 7/7 of treatment and Misty's ringworm "patch" is looking much healthier. The skin no longer looks so "raw" and the site has got no bigger than it was at first. Just a small amount of dryness left, is this normal?

Vet check up tomorrow at 2pm :)
 
So the vet was pleased with the progress however wanted to be seeing some hair growth by now, so back for another check up next Monday. And medication is being continued for at least another week but I have been given enough for 2 weeks just incase. Her dose has also been upped to 0.46ml once a day, as before it was 0.2ml... so hopefully the next week will see more improvement and some hair growth.

She came home and I deep cleaned the cage and gave her a quick bath, so hopefully this will prevent the spread of spores and any potential new breakouts.

Out of curiosity, at what point will I be able to attempt bonding with Willow? Of course there's no rush as I'd rather be safe than sorry, but seeing as spores can survive for 18 months, at what point would I even be able to consider bonding?
 
@VickiA sorry to bother you, but I feel like maybe you're one of the best people to ask. Misty has now been on the medication for 1.5 weeks, and the site is still looking a bit dry/crusty around the edges. She is on 0.46ml once daily, however prior to Sunday it was only 0.2ml daily. The vet would've liked to see hair growth by the Sunday appointment, and even though it's only two days since that, there still doesn't seem to be any further improvement. Does this sound like a stubborn case or am I being too hasty in wanting to see results?
 
In my experience the hair growth only starts when there are no new scabby/scaly areas forming and the scabs /scales you see have dried out and are falling off. If the dose was a little on the low side then you may need to wait a while to see the results.
 
VickiA said:
In my experience the hair growth only starts when there are no new scabby/scaly areas forming and the scabs /scales you see have dried out and are falling off. If the dose was a little on the low side then you may need to wait a while to see the results.
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Thank you for this information, she has another appointment on Monday so hopefully aftee the additional week of a higher dose, things will start really mending themselves. Does 0.46 dose sound more sufficient now? Beforehand it was only .2 ml due to her weight, but now they've gone to the higher end of the dose due to her weight gain, and to try to speed up the healing.
 
dannif_piggies said:
Thank you for this information, she has another appointment on Monday so hopefully aftee the additional week of a higher dose, things will start really mending themselves. Does 0.46 dose sound more sufficient now? Beforehand it was only .2 ml due to her weight, but now they've gone to the higher end of the dose due to her weight gain, and to try to speed up the healing.
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I am away from home & can’t remember Mabel’s dose. But hopefully the higher dose will speed up the process.
 
Doesn't seem to be any further progress in terms of the site. I did actually contact the vet to see if they wanted to see Misty earlier incase something needed to be changed in terms of treatment but they said to give it until Monday like planned. She's bright and lively in herself and I'm seriously hoping I've done a good enough job at keeping the spores well away from the other girls.

Cannot wait for this to be over with, especially as the pigs are all in my room, it's making me feel dirty in a weird kind of way
 
Misty is heading in the right direction, the scaliness on the site has now completely gone. And the vet said, due to the site clearing up so well, and there being no new ones, how contagious she is has dramatically declined but she still would personally continue doing everything I have been doing until Misty has the all clear. She's had another bath today, which again would've removed any other spores on her coat. She's to continue to be given the medication as I've been doing, a little more now due to her weight increase, and then she need to go back in a weeks time again hopefully this time to see some hair growth appearing back on the site...
 
VickiA said:
All sounds very positive. Hang in there. It can be a long road but worth persisting.
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I certainly didn't think it would challenge my anxiety this much to be totally honest, it's been a long two weeks so far, but just taking one week at a time, getting to the next vet appointment is each milestone... I guess in the grand scheme of things, the worst part is out the way now, but certainly not out of the dark yet 😓
 
Please may I have some reassurance from people. It may sound silly to some but I've been so paranoid whilst dealing with this ringworm, and it's quite honestly been driving me a bit mad. I think I just need some rational thoughts...

Misty was found with ringworm on the 15th, I haven't held her without gloves since then, so almost 3 weeks ago...

Since I've knowns what I've been dealing with (15th) I've only held her with gloves. Had a set of "ringworm clothes" which go on, treat Misty, come off, and straight in the washing machine. I've washed my hands after taking the gloves off, dried thouroughly each time. And I've been f10 spraying my entire room at least once a week (was more in the first week)

I'm trying to be rational and I'm thinking the more regular hand washing has dried my hands out, along with the cold weather, but the palm and backs of my hands look a bit dry, and although they don't look like the google photos of ringworm on the hands, I'm still concerned it's the start of ringworm and I'm becoming extremely paranoid I'm going to spread to everyone and every pet.

Listening to all what I've been doing, is it unlikely to be ringworm? And just dry hands? I should add I haven't noticed any marks anywhere else on my body...
 
So Misty has another check up appointment today. Fingers crossed this is the end in sight.

@VickiA @Wiebke wondering if you could give me a little further advice.

At what point does ringworm stop giving off new spores, is this at the end of the acute phase? And so thereafter is it a case of just removing/killing the spores that were emitted during the acute phase?

All scales had gone 6 days ago (Monday) and therefore does this mean I'm half way through the post-ringworm quarantine period? Or would you wait 2 weeks post of completion of the medication?

My other girls are showing no signs of an infection, 3 and half weeks into dealing with ringworm, is it likely they've got the all clear or should I still be on guard as they've had to stay in the same room?

Sorry for the additional questions, but knowing that hopefully the end is in sight with Misty, I 100% do not what this all over again
 
dannif_piggies said:
So Misty has another check up appointment today. Fingers crossed this is the end in sight.

@VickiA @Wiebke wondering if you could give me a little further advice.

At what point does ringworm stop giving off new spores, is this at the end of the acute phase? And so thereafter is it a case of just removing/killing the spores that were emitted during the acute phase?

All scales had gone 6 days ago (Monday) and therefore does this mean I'm half way through the post-ringworm quarantine period? Or would you wait 2 weeks post of completion of the medication?

My other girls are showing no signs of an infection, 3 and half weeks into dealing with ringworm, is it likely they've got the all clear or should I still be on guard as they've had to stay in the same room?

Sorry for the additional questions, but knowing that hopefully the end is in sight with Misty, I 100% do not what this all over again
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Spore production stops at the end of the acute phase which is when crusts stop forming. You are nearly halfway through the quarantine.

That is why I strongly recommend a whole body bath at the end of the acute phase to simply mechanically remove any spores that could be sitting in the coat at the same time you deep clean the ringworm cage, so you can start the 2 week quarantine with an environment that is completely ringworm spore free and make sure that there is no risk of re-infection during the observation period. By using a fungal/anti-dandruff shampoo, you ensure that re-infection cannot happen.

Your other girls have obviously escaped thanks to your measures.
 
Wiebke said:
Spore production stops at the end of the acute phase which is when crusts stop forming. You are nearly halfway through the quarantine.

That is why I strongly recommend a whole body bath at the end of the acute phase to simply mechanically remove any spores that could be sitting in the coat at the same time you deep clean the ringworm cage, so you can start the 2 week quarantine with an environment that is completely ringworm spore free and make sure that there is no risk of re-infection during the observation period. By using a fungal/anti-dandruff shampoo, you ensure that re-infection cannot happen.

Your other girls have obviously escaped thanks to your measures.
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Thank you for responding, I know it's been some time but I hope you enjoyed your time away/off the forum...
every week after the vet check ups I have been giving Misty and bath and deep cage clean, and so spores in her environment during those weeks would've been removed. Today she had her vet trip and a complete layer of fresh fuzzy fur is over the site! Could not be happier and the vet does not want to see her back unless a new lesion forms which I'm seriously hoping it doesn't. Today I took her in a fresh cardboard carrier (this is what I've been using as it means I can throw them away and not worry about missing nooks and crannies in the carrier. And when I bought her home, did one final bath and completely threw away the play pen, and changed to zip tied grids... and everything was f10d like crazy. Seriously hoping I'm through it in one go 😭
 
dannif_piggies said:
Thank you for responding, I know it's been some time but I hope you enjoyed your time away/off the forum...
every week after the vet check ups I have been giving Misty and bath and deep cage clean, and so spores in her environment during those weeks would've been removed. Today she had her vet trip and a complete layer of fresh fuzzy fur is over the site! Could not be happier and the vet does not want to see her back unless a new lesion forms which I'm seriously hoping it doesn't. Today I took her in a fresh cardboard carrier (this is what I've been using as it means I can throw them away and not worry about missing nooks and crannies in the carrier. And when I bought her home, did one final bath and completely threw away the play pen, and changed to zip tied grids... and everything was f10d like crazy. Seriously hoping I'm through it in one go 😭
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Well done. Here’s hoping that is the end of it for you.
 
dannif_piggies said:
I really do hope so, just hoping no lesions come up on me now... 😭
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I know that paranoia well! Although I have to say I didn’t find the actual ringworm as itchy as I would have expected, of course you feel itchy thinking about it..just like when watching ants on tv!. Just look for any small pinpricks of dry red skin whenever you are changing clothes..this is how it starts before spreading out into the more noticeable circular disc.
 
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