COVID-19 Coronavirus

piggieminder said:
I think I'd feel exhausted with your children and animals to look after, glad my 3 children are all grown up with homes of their own. There are the usual lot of bugs around at the moment as well as Corona, not to mention it's hay fever time as well. My hayfever has kicked in a bit this week. I hope the children go to sleep soon.
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I'll miss them when they're grown 😂💖 1 down 2 to go on the children 😂
 
Falken said:
:) Speaking of bugs, I tried to have a shower this morning at 0700, was sharing with quite a large a spider, so opted out, I liberated it, but met it again nesting on the handle of my steam cleaner in the afternoon. I guess because the weather has been a bit random, it's came inside to weather out the colder nights.
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They wouldn't come in this house to get warm, the boiler broke down on Friday just in time for the weather to turn cold again. So looking forward to summer. Or gas engineers being released from lockdown!
 
piggieminder said:
They wouldn't come in this house to get warm, the boiler broke down on Friday just in time for the weather to turn cold again. So looking forward to summer. Or gas engineers being released from lockdown!
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, sorry about that, had to live with the same for three months a few years ago, cold showers in the 'beast from the east' were wonderful, I promise.
 
piggieminder said:
I think I'd feel exhausted with your children and animals to look after, glad my 3 children are all grown up with homes of their own. There are the usual lot of bugs around at the moment as well as Corona, not to mention it's hay fever time as well. My hayfever has kicked in a bit this week. I hope the children go to sleep soon.
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It's so hard isn't it with so many usual bugs going around as well. My brother has developed a chesty cough (can hear it) rang 111 but they not concerned as no other symptoms. My throat can be a little sore in a morning (have found its worse when don't drink enough) & had a bit of a cold for two days last week but must have been hayfever as spent a couple of days in the garden in the sun. Now it's cold & I haven't left the house in three days it's gone again!

Think I will feel happier in a couple of weeks. Not going anywhere should mean any potential bugs have gone... hopefully.
 
We are lucky we still have hot water, just cold radiators. We have an electric heater for the piggies and a hot water bottle for me - far to much happening in the world to get too upset. I think this is the 4th time it's happened to me, last time we had 2 inches of snow outside and no hot water either.
 
piggieminder said:
We are lucky we still have hot water, just cold radiators. We have an electric heater for the piggies and a hot water bottle for me - far to much happening in the world to get too upset. I think this is the 4th time it's happened to me, last time we had 2 inches of snow outside and no hot water either.
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:) I think that's very British of you 'make do and mend', so long as we have tea. I hope you feel better soon.
 
Sar said:
It's so hard isn't it with so many usual bugs going around as well. My brother has developed a chesty cough (can hear it) rang 111 but they not concerned as no other symptoms. My throat can be a little sore in a morning (have found its worse when don't drink enough) & had a bit of a cold for two days last week but must have been hayfever as spent a couple of days in the garden in the sun. Now it's cold & I haven't left the house in three days it's gone again!

Think I will feel happier in a couple of weeks. Not going anywhere should mean any potential bugs have gone... hopefully.
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:) Hope you get well soon, probably is just hayfever, or even anxiety can bring on things.
 
Hath said:
The wet markets in China are dangerous because of the animals they keep in such close proximity. So many species wouldn't be on top of each other in the wild. Not to mention the welfare is horrendous and stressed animals in terrible conditions won't be healthy....
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As an animal lover, I find it rather disturbing that defenseless animals are continuously exploited and slaughtered in these wet markets.
Even more disturbing is that doctors who come forward to talk to the public about the dangers of COVID-19 are mysteriously disappearing, which I feel is crime against humanity.
 
piggieminder said:
Hope your brother feels better soon @Sar
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Thanks. Apart from the cough he is fine. Usually he wouldn't bother 111 with it but he works in a shop so wanted to check. He surprised me!

Falken said:
:) Hope you get well soon, probably is just hayfever, or even anxiety can bring on things.
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I think anxiety does play a part. I have noticed when I feel anxious I do feel it more. I went to out of hours mid March as my glands felt like they were strangling me. The nurse said my tonsils and glands were up but said it was viral & taking a while to shift. I'm not feeling strangled any more but my tonsils still up.

On another note. I'm raring to go today! I'm up, been to the shop, cleaned everything down, recycled.... now to see what I want to do on my to do list!
 
Emx93 said:
Apparently Prince Charles has finished his isolation? That seems very soon? At least he must've had it very mild
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piggieminder said:
I thought he had come out of isolation a bit quick too. I thought you could still be infectious until 14 days after the symptoms first started showing.
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The guidance for returning to work in the nhs is providing you have been clear of a fever for 2 days you can return to work at 7 days.
 
Seven7 said:
As an animal lover, I find it rather disturbing that defenseless animals are continuously exploited and slaughtered in these wet markets.
Even more disturbing is that doctors who come forward to talk to the public about the dangers of COVID-19 are mysteriously disappearing, which I feel is crime against humanity.
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Yes exactly. Bear bile is now being marketed as a cure for Covid in China. So its a good marketing ploy to now exploit these poor bears further. :no:
 
piggles 7000 said:
I should point out that I find many aspects of the Chinese culture beautiful. :love:The art,traditional dress,food, architecture for example.I dont want to come over as being in any way anti China. Just their lack of animal welfare often in the name of culture.
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Same. Nothing personal and hope I don’t come across as such.

I just don’t agree with the CCP encouraging the people of China with Wildlife trade in the name of economic prosperity.
 
piggles 7000 said:
I have just watched a very interesting video on youtube where the chief medical scientist from South Korea was interviewed.They have tackled the pandemic amazingly well with a very low death rate in comparison to other countries.They learned their lessons from the Sars , Mers and swine flue epidemics. All the population wear medical grade masks.The scientist said that WHO did not recommend the wearing of these masks as necessary as they knew there would not be enough to go around all medical staff around the world if they did as there would be panic buying. They do make a big difference as the statistics in South Korea testify. They were also prepared with hundreds of thousands of coronavirus tests and are busy testing everyone,again learning from their experience with past corona viruses. I hope we can learn some lessons from them for any future problems.
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The success of South Korea was mentioned on the news tonight and whether we can learn from their success with treating CV
 
How is everyone doing?

Here, we are both well & coping ok. Still avoiding each other, still taking all the precautions we have been doing for weeks. More surprisingly we have only had one argument! As we come to the end of week 2 inside, I've got loads done! I'm catching up on all the little and also long jobs I never have time to do when at work. My scrapbook is proving quite therapeutic (I'm 4 years behind on it) so I'm ploughing on with that while I have time & can dedicate hours to it.

I'm still managing to avoid as much news/media as possible & have found this has helped. Yes the situation is bad out there but by being home, safe & occupied my anxiety has dropped again.

A local NHS trust announced that they have been able to discharge 7 patients with the virus so they can continue recovery at home, which is a small positive.
 
Sar said:
How is everyone doing?

Here, we are both well & coping ok. Still avoiding each other, still taking all the precautions we have been doing for weeks. More surprisingly we have only had one argument! As we come to the end of week 2 inside, I've got loads done! I'm catching up on all the little and also long jobs I never have time to do when at work. My scrapbook is proving quite therapeutic (I'm 4 years behind on it) so I'm ploughing on with that while I have time & can dedicate hours to it.

I'm still managing to avoid as much news/media as possible & have found this has helped. Yes the situation is bad out there but by being home, safe & occupied my anxiety has dropped again.

A local NHS trust announced that they have been able to discharge 7 patients with the virus so they can continue recovery at home, which is a small positive.
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The elderly mum of a friend, who was admitted to hospital on Tuesday after being unwell and confused for a week, and then diagnosed with covid-19, was released today 👍
 
We're OK, focusing on home schooling, family time and pet care 😊 avoiding news but sometimes catch it on Facebook, thankful for my family unit and fur babies right now 💖
 
We’re doing well.
We’re both used to working from home but adjusting to not being able to go out and around.
Piggies are getting extra attention and work remains very busy - just learning to do some things differently.
Holding everyone in my heart
 
My concern is now the US is headed to where Italy was not too long ago with a large number of people dying without an end in sight.
To make matters worse, the US has 330 million people compared to Italy's 60 million people.
 
That's great news about the recoveries all around!

We're alright here, still fighting for food online but doing alright, thank you @Sar
I did find out that Burgess Excel mint has changed it's formula though....found that out via a £40 vet bill and video consult because Praline got a runny bum I could not get rid of for 4 days despite no veg, poop soup and critical care! Apparently he's not the only pig who's allergic to the new formula because the vet mentioned hearing of others, but hey, his brother is still fine on it, so it's not going to waste and Praline has the purple flavour now with a nice course of fibreplex! He's basically back to being fine again now, bless him!

Hope everyone else is hanging in there!
 
This is hard to explain, and I hate that this virus has caused so many deaths, but I honestly think the world is going to come back a stronger, more communal, helping place once this virus has gone or a vaccine has been created for it. I think the world in a way, needed this. I don't mean to sound sick because people's loved ones have died. But if there is a positive from all of this, itl be what I've said above. I can feel everywhere people yet at a distance, are closer than ever before.

Things that used to worry me, il just look back in this and think, do be stupid. Bosses that think they have a tough situation to deal with because a job didn't get done on time... Doesn't matter, its nothing compared to the virus we had.
 
The US is still in trouble but I believe the figures suggest that Italy,Spain and China have passed their peak. Possibly Germany,France and Iran to follow in that order and then UK, if predictions are correct. So its just a matter of hanging on in there. I hope the world is a more tolerant and peaceful place after all this is over and people learn to appreciate the things that matter.While all this has been happening the world has been "healing" because there is less pollution choking it up. I understand that industry and manufacture has got to start again in earnest when things start to return to normal but Id like to think that leaders have more respect and appreciation for the planet,its people and its animals as a whole in future
 
I was saying before all this, to people that I work with and friends, that the world has gone mad and that something has got to give soon. I never thought it'd be a virus pandemic, but I had that feeling something was brewing
 
Well, we were due to for a recession, but this is a bit much. We've skirted the edge a few times over the past 20 years, we've never deliberately crashed the economy before though - so we don't know what's likely to happen at the end, may just jump back as millions of very very bored people go all out to be productive once given the chance. Sincerely hope we'll try and cut down on useless meetings (cost ~49BN pa), drag employers out of the stone age and normalise flexible hours and home working, improve hygiene generally and the attitude towards taking time off for communicable diseases (cost flu ~£1.35BN). Will probably see a return of strategic manufacturing, likely a acceleration the deployment of industrial automation - and again probably a reduction in unnceccary managerial roles (there will be plenty of data available to determine who is strictly necessary). There will also probably be a number of companies, having embraced home working that realise that they could cut their overheads by eliminating traditional office space entirely. Also expect the death of the high street to accelerate faster towards the inevitable. The viability of home delivery for retailers may improve given their experience and development of new systems during this pandemic.
 
Life definitely isn't normal, I find the pandemic interesting and frightening. I'm feeling quietly optimistic in the fact we will get through this. The only real question is how many people will pass on. The best thing we can do is be sensible when shopping and staying at home.

I think it's wise that we will hopefully start testing more aggressively, and I also hope we trace to isolate the infected.

I was watching some figures this evening that Google had released to advise the percent of people who are following the advice was interested to see in America only 47% - Scary number and I do hope this is wrong.

Please everyone keep well, and stay safe.
 
Absolutely agree that home working will become more viable and online shopping will cause the demise of the high streets/ shopping malls etc at an increased rate. Ironically a small number of the malls in the US in recent years have been converted into Amazon distribution warehouses.
 
piggles 7000 said:
Absolutely agree that home working will become more viable and online shopping will cause the demise of the high streets/ shopping malls etc at an increased rate. Ironically a small number of the malls in the US in recent years have been converted into Amazon distribution warehouses.
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With the malls in the US, I've heard about a lot of them failing over the years, slowly beocming empty husk, that's one of the elephants in the room really, as William Gibson predicted we probably are moving towards a few very large companies providing everything, the smaller retailers weren't doing brilliantly, but our current situation is probably going to make a lot non-viable, this is probably going to be a bad thing, but unlike the monopolies of the late 19th-early 20th century, I can't see much that could be done about it.
 
Slowly all I'm seeing mainly on high streets is betting shops, charity shops ( thrift stores) coffee shops, takeaway food and hairdressers. All of which you can't do online, apart from takeaway food, but not everyone wants it delivered
 
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