Guinea Pig Breeders

Hello! Please be aware this forum is against talking about intentional breeding and guinea pig shows, (club and breeder shows. Not pet shows such as “silliest guinea pig” or “cutest guinea pig). If you keep talking about this topic your account might sadly be deleted. Which is unfortunate for you. You are very welcome on this forum as long as you do not talk about your intentional breeding. Thank you! By the way your Brindle is absolutely gorgeous! It is also great that you adopt piggies from shelters. Please also consider reading the forum terms, rules, and guidlines again.
cavyluver16 said:
I totally get where you guys are coming from, but I still breed my beloved female Sleek. She is the love of my life and my fur baby... But I do not ever indorse breeding to anyone. Most people wrongly think that putting a male and female cavy together and you have made cute, happy and healthy babies. NOT TRUE! It takes a lot of time and planning. My boars are carefully screened for genetic disorders by my vet. Then my female must meet the same standard. And then before breeding I put together my waiting list (it is at this time 2 years long) my prospective buyers must fill out a extensive screening form and must meet my visitation standard. Only after a process that is harder to get through than a shelter process, I breed. My litters are born into a perfectly clean 10 C&C cage unit (10 cages connected per female) and then they start my temperament match program! I genetic test, socialize, muscle test and do a extensive behavior test. Then I contact the people that made the 100% score (usually about 5 out of at least 90 people) and line them up with the one or two guinea pigs that would fit their situation perfectly. (for example the form says they have kids... the noise sensitive pup is not a good candidate) I have had a 100% success rate... all my pigs are living in plush homes that weigh out the perfect ration, take them on regular vet visits, have signed a no breeding promise and have signed a promise that they will send me pictures every month! All are happy and having a blast!
Now I only wish that people would put as much effort into the care of there cavies and the proper management of perfect breeding! And what if my guinea pig does not find it's perfect match? I, as the breeder of the animal, I add it to my vast family of cavies. After all it didn't ask to be born, so I hold myself responsible to care for my beloved cavy as long as it will live! And I also adopt about 20 guinea pigs from my local shelter a year. Largely cavies with major temperament and genetic problems. The never are part of my breeding home, but live in my 12,000 square foot cavy palace!
Here is my last litter of Christmas babies!
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cavyluver16 said:
NEVER SELL ON CREGSLIST EITHER! OR PETSHOPS!
Of course! I just wanted y'all to know that there is someone here who completely understands your side and still does the other side. (being very vague on purpose. I appreciate your kindness my friend!:D Below is my little lover Brindle! my beloved little squirt...:love:! Just being a fur mom and had to brag a bit.
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5StarPigs said:
Hello! Please be aware this forum is against talking about intentional breeding and guinea pig shows, (club and breeder shows. Not pet shows such as “silliest guinea pig” or “cutest guinea pig). If you keep talking about this topic your account might sadly be deleted. Which is unfortunate for you. You are very welcome on this forum as long as you do not talk about your intentional breeding. Thank you! By the way your Brindle is absolutely gorgeous! It is also great that you adopt piggies from shelters. Please also consider reading the forum terms, rules, and guidlines again.
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Don't worry I won't mention it again... I agree with the rules... because a random person may think that "random" breeding is ok.... IT IS NEVER OK!
This is for the viewers:
NEVER BREED YOUR GUINEA PIG! (sounds weird coming from me but I don't agree with it on a common scale!
 
cavyluver16 said:
I know... I'm being a silly kid... LOL! I will refrain... Is it ok to respond if a person PM's me to talk about breeding?
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the PM was about breeding, a question about rare coat types and how to keep the bloodline true.
 
cavyluver16 said:
I totally get where you guys are coming from, but I still breed my beloved female Sleek. She is the love of my life and my fur baby...
Now I only wish that people would put as much effort into the care of there cavies and the proper management of perfect breeding!
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I find it interesting that you claim to be a knowledgeable, committed and caring breeder, yet openly admit that you breed from a guinea pig that has a genetic link to a disease which can result in a short and painful life as a direct result of passing on an incurable metabolic disease.

And then breeders wonder why so many people feel that they clearly do not breed with the best interests of the animals at heart.
Long waiting lists for guinea pigs that look pretty but may or may not suffer from an incurable disease is not a reason to breed, or a sign of a good breeder.
 
I was going to say more, but I wont. But as someone currently with a boar on palliative care with Osteodystrophy due to being a satin carrier, all I will say is I agree with the above.
And that I sincerely hope that you at least contribute to the owners vets bills who are just desperately trying to buy more time with their beloved piggies before they inevitably have to have them put to sleep, if any are unlucky enough to encounter this satin syndrome with their babies.
 
Please also be aware that when you join the forum you are supposed to read the terms, rules and conditions. You have joined the forum and are talking about your intentional breeding.
 
I would also like too say, when you are breeding you are adding to the population of guinea pigs. No matter how experianced, knowledgeable, caring, and considerate you are, you are still adding to the population. Ther are many homeless guinea pigs in shelters and rescues waiting for homes. Yet you are purposely adding to this population. When you could be encouraging people to adopt from shelters. When you are breeding your piggie, Sleek you are putting her through a life threatening thing, yet you claim to love her so much. Sleek could die or get seriously injured from being pregnant and birthing pups.
 
The 2 rex i had came from a small hobby breeder and i think i hit lucky with her. She was very thorough in explaining all about boar care, deminstrated how to check their private bits, grease gland care, nails. Full works.

She would take the pigs back if i couldnt keep them. She had matched them as a compatible pair. She stayed in touch right through their lives (and that's to present day as benson has just passed recently) she was on hand always for advice and also looked after them once when we were on holiday last year and my neighbour was unable to.

When stan (one of the rex pair) died, she had a baby boar, mike, available and guided me through that bonding. She even came with me to meet the vet that neutered mike, just to see that he would be well looked after!

I'm sure the forum will be pleased to know that she has massively cut down on her breeding (she never had a lot of excess stock at all anyway( but now she has none because she only breeds a maximum 2 litters a year. Apparently all kinds of new rules have come in, banning the sale of pigs at shows plus the mass breeding of pigs for pets at home mean she wouldnt be able to find homes for excess stock.

When benson was ill, i did try to find rex pigs but there was only one rex breeder in the whole of scotland! And, no litters available or planned.

So, in a way it is a pity imo that mass breeding for stores is driving responsible hobby breeders out. Pet stores are akin to puppy mills really. Sad.
 
Ps i hope what i wrote in my post was not against forum rules. I wont be making any more comments on the subject.
 
tabelmabel said:
The 2 rex i had came from a small hobby breeder and i think i hit lucky with her. She was very thorough in explaining all about boar care, deminstrated how to check their private bits, grease gland care, nails. Full works.

She would take the pigs back if i couldnt keep them. She had matched them as a compatible pair. She stayed in touch right through their lives (and that's to present day as benson has just passed recently) she was on hand always for advice and also looked after them once when we were on holiday last year and my neighbour was unable to.

When stan (one of the rex pair) died, she had a baby boar, mike, available and guided me through that bonding. She even came with me to meet the vet that neutered mike, just to see that he would be well looked after!

I'm sure the forum will be pleased to know that she has massively cut down on her breeding (she never had a lot of excess stock at all anyway( but now she has none because she only breeds a maximum 2 litters a year. Apparently all kinds of new rules have come in, banning the sale of pigs at shows plus the mass breeding of pigs for pets at home mean she wouldnt be able to find homes for excess stock.

When benson was ill, i did try to find rex pigs but there was only one rex breeder in the whole of scotland! And, no litters available or planned.

So, in a way it is a pity imo that mass breeding for stores is driving responsible hobby breeders out. Pet stores are akin to puppy mills really. Sad.
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I think the initial comments here apply everywhere be it breeders, pet shops or rescues. There are good and bad in all of them. It has to be a personal choice to ask questions, research and be happy with your decision on where the pigs come from. My Poppy came from a breeder last year and like you I had discussions with the breeder and she even followed up after to see how she was getting on. We wanted a Swiss or rex type and the rescue route hadn't worked out. I made the decision based on good care and that I wasn't supporting back to back/mass breeding but that is each member's decision
 
At the end of the day. Breeding animals is completely unnecessary, It’s about profiting from animals and being greedy.
If another human put me with a man I didn’t know and forced us to mate. I go through a dangerous and risky pregnancy and labour and then my kids are sold away from me.. It wouldn’t be right. So why is it okay to use animals in this way?

Humans are greedy.

We don’t need to breed more animals into this sad, messy world. Rescue until there are no more left to rescue.
 
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