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Guinea pig crusty hairloss

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Hey all! I'm in desperate need of some advice! My poor Wilma has a big bald patch on her backend, it appeared a day or so after she had given birth (accidental pregnancy which resulted in just one large stillborn boar). She is completely well in herself, eating and drinking, doesn't seem unhappy at all! I had treated her for mites just in case, and after taking her to the vet yesterday they had me treat her for mites again with their recommended mite treatment. The vet said he didn't believe it was a fungal infection, he believed it was ovarian cysts due to her crusty nipples and supposed pear shape (she looks normal to me 🤔). He started listing things we could do to check all possibilities, but I'm a student with barely any money and he was almost reaching £1k... I asked if I could just book her in for the spay to treat for the ovarian cysts as he was most confident it was that, but didn't want to rule everything else out. I'm unsure what to do as I don't want to put poor Wilma under anaesthesia and through that surgery if that is not the true issue. I also cannot afford the £250 for the surgery if it's incorrect and she will need further treatment. Now, I don't mean to doubt the vet's knowledge or intentions, but everything I've read about ovarian cysts does not equate to what Wilma is experiencing.
What I've read/seen is;
- the alopecia is bilateral (Wilma has it directly on her rump)
- they're painful and can affect the guinea pigs mood (the only time she's seemed less chirpy is after the vets appointment, she's eating and drinking fine and happy as can be)
- the hair loss doesn't come out in lumps and doesn't have dandruff or skin attached (When I first noticed wilmas it had appeared overnight and the hair was coming off in clumps attached to hard yellow skin)

I adopted Wilma and her sister (Choobs) and they appeared somewhat dirty but I assumed it was down to their fur colour, but after the hair loss I gave them a wash with guinea pig shampoo and they're a lot whiter than when I initially had them. I'm just wondering if maybe she developed a fungal infection from being so dirty or maybe it's due to the hormonal changes because of the failed pregnancy?

I'd appreciate any help!
 
Hey all! I'm in desperate need of some advice! My poor Wilma has a big bald patch on her backend, it appeared a day or so after she had given birth (accidental pregnancy which resulted in just one large stillborn boar). She is completely well in herself, eating and drinking, doesn't seem unhappy at all! I had treated her for mites just in case, and after taking her to the vet yesterday they had me treat her for mites again with their recommended mite treatment. The vet said he didn't believe it was a fungal infection, he believed it was ovarian cysts due to her crusty nipples and supposed pear shape (she looks normal to me 🤔). He started listing things we could do to check all possibilities, but I'm a student with barely any money and he was almost reaching £1k... I asked if I could just book her in for the spay to treat for the ovarian cysts as he was most confident it was that, but didn't want to rule everything else out. I'm unsure what to do as I don't want to put poor Wilma under anaesthesia and through that surgery if that is not the true issue. I also cannot afford the £250 for the surgery if it's incorrect and she will need further treatment. Now, I don't mean to doubt the vet's knowledge or intentions, but everything I've read about ovarian cysts does not equate to what Wilma is experiencing.
What I've read/seen is;
- the alopecia is bilateral (Wilma has it directly on her rump)
- they're painful and can affect the guinea pigs mood (the only time she's seemed less chirpy is after the vets appointment, she's eating and drinking fine and happy as can be)
- the hair loss doesn't come out in lumps and doesn't have dandruff or skin attached (When I first noticed wilmas it had appeared overnight and the hair was coming off in clumps attached to hard yellow skin)

I adopted Wilma and her sister (Choobs) and they appeared somewhat dirty but I assumed it was down to their fur colour, but after the hair loss I gave them a wash with guinea pig shampoo and they're a lot whiter than when I initially had them. I'm just wondering if maybe she developed a fungal infection from being so dirty or maybe it's due to the hormonal changes because of the failed pregnancy?

I'd appreciate any help!

Hi and welcome

Could you please post a pictures of the various issues. As things stand, we can only speculate based on your own speculations.
How long have you have you had them, what kind of place have you got them and how are they housed? How long since Wilma have given birth and what product have you used for mites treatment?
 
Hey thanks for the reply! I've attached two pictures from when I first noticed it but it's after I washed her and put some sudocrem on the patch as I thought it may help the dryness, it seemed to have appeared over night which is odd as it was quite a bit patch. I've had them since November and they've been outdoor pigs but they're currently indoors due to the pregnancy, they're housed in a ferplast plaza 160cm cage, the birth was 3rd April, and I used Beaphar Anti-Parasite Spot On for Rabbit and Guinea Pigs first and then the one the vet gave me yesterday, I'm unsure what it was but obviously vet approved. Thanks!
 

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Also, I'm not home at the moment but when I get home I'll take new pictures. It's bigger now and has reached her grease gland.
 
It doesn't look fungal to me. I would strongly recommended that you go with three courses of vet strength ivermectin (I assume you have been given xeno spot-on?) to do a full mange mites course.

Teddies like yours can sometimes suffer from ongoing dry and flaky skin problems with hair loss; it is a breeds specific genetic issue but until you get to a 'teddy skin' diagnosis, you and your vet need to exclude the other fungal and parasitical angles.

I would recommend that you concentrate on a good grass hay based diet with limited but carefully chosen green and leafy veg and herbs plus fresh dog-pee free grass (carefully and slowly introduced, if available but fresh growing grass is actually high in vitamin C and the best you can feed at this time of year) and 1 tablesoon of pellets per piggy per day. If you wish, in view of your sow's recent pregnancy and nursing period, which has been hard on her own bodily resources, you can do a 2-3 weeks booster course of added vitamin C. Please don't do it longer so the body cannot adapt to high vitamin C levels (which can cause more problems than it solves). By then, any diet improvements will start to kick in - they will help your girls for the long term both in general health as in greater life expectancy. You can give your mother a bit more kale than we normally recommend for the next month or so.

The information in these guides here will hopefully help you.
New guinea pigs: Sexing, vet checks&customer rights, URI, ringworm and parasites
Long Term Balanced General And Special Needs Guinea Pig Diets
Feeding Grass And Preparing Your Piggies For Lawn Time
Probiotics, Recovery Foods And Vitamin C: Overview With Product Links
 
Did you see the picture of the clump of fur too? I'm so confused by what it could be, I thought maybe something hormonal due to the pregnancy... I'm unsure what was given but it was a one dose course, it wasn't in any branded wrapper so I'm unsure. She gets a lot of grass from my garden along with plenty of veggies and hay and we have her and Choobs on pellets. The vet recommended probiotic C supplement for the water so she's having that too now. I've attached a picture I took when I was at home today, as you can see the fur is actually growing back which is why I'm even more confused with what's going on, should I cancel the spaying operation? I don't want poor Wilma going through surgery if it's not needed, she was so upset losing her pup as it wasScreenshot_20210428-195423.webp
 
Did you see the picture of the clump of fur too? I'm so confused by what it could be, I thought maybe something hormonal due to the pregnancy... I'm unsure what was given but it was a one dose course, it wasn't in any branded wrapper so I'm unsure. She gets a lot of grass from my garden along with plenty of veggies and hay and we have her and Choobs on pellets. The vet recommended probiotic C supplement for the water so she's having that too now. I've attached a picture I took when I was at home today, as you can see the fur is actually growing back which is why I'm even more confused with what's going on, should I cancel the spaying operation? I don't want poor Wilma going through surgery if it's not needed, she was so upset losing her pup as it wasView attachment 174369

Yes, I did see the clump and have taken it into consideration and the way I have formulated my advice.

I am extremely sorry for Wilma's loss. Sadly single large babies are at a higher risk of suffering a fatality during birth. :(
Good that she has her companion for support.
 
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