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Treating bloat and poo stuck post surgery

BellaRose19

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Hi everyone

I just wanted to see if any of you do anything else to what I am already doing, to aid a guinea pig who has bloat (he’s eating normally though) but is producing normal droppings…and his housemate who was just spayed and, the vet thinks, has dry poo stuck in her intestine.

The one with bloat - he is having fibreplex, metacam and infacol. The vet yesterday gave some cisapride and, because he was cleaning some off his housemates chin, critical care which he can’t get fast enough. He is also using a heat pad that initially I put in for his housemate post surgery.

I only started the cisapride yesterday, would you continue using both cisapride and infacol, or use just one?

They’re getting plenty of hay and some fresh food - having chard, cucumber and some celery. Are there any others you would give them, or any of these you’d stop?

Regarding the one spayed:

She has always been alert, soft shiny coat and interested in exploring and seeing what is going on.

The operation was done a couple weeks ago and she wasn’t eating much - stopped eating fresh, so I started her on critical care and, under vets directions gave her infacol, emiprid, continued calpol but stopped metacam.

Her droppings became small and fewer, then the little poo she was producing became diarrhoea-like and a very little amount, to then none at all.

She obviously was in pain and was using the heat pad a lot. Vet upped calpol and said to stop metacam, emiprid and infacol but continue critical care. She also issued baytril and a laxative (along with mirtazapine to encourage eating) because the pain the guinea showed when abdomen was touched the vet wasn’t sure if it was a water infection or something like poo stuck - she could feel a lump in the intestine area, which felt hard.

The guinea produced a small amount of poo over the weekend that was more like normal in terms of colour, but not dropping shape - made me think of cow pats. She didn’t want critical care or fresh either. Nothing else had changed, so yesterday the vet did an x-ray, checked the guineas mouth (all fine) and found the lump in the intestine had reduced in size and was softer. So she massaged the lump a little and said to continue baytril, mirtazapine, critical care, laxative, calpol and start her again on cisapride.

The little guinea is so much happier and interested in fresh food now. She is on the heat pad less, eating more hay and has her voice back. She doesn’t mind being handled now either. But she also started to eat her housemates droppings, but refuses fibreplex. She spits any I give her out - she is a very stubborn little guinea!

She had before been sniffing the fresh I put in, but walked away or turned away from it - like she was hungry but the smell or idea of it made her feel yuk, like we do when we have an upset tummy.

I’m to continue all the med’s and critical care, let the vet know what her poo is like in a few days and I shall take her in to see the vet next Monday. Is there anything else you can think of I could give her (including food wise) or do for her?

Thanks for this. 😊
 
I’m sorry to hear this

Are you weighing them both each morning?
It is very important that you do as it is the only way to know the are getting enough hay and critical care to keep their weight stable each day.

Infacol - well, it’s not something the forum recommends. Infacol gathers gas into a big bubble. That is fine for human babies but guinea pig guts are very different (much thinner) and one big bubble can in fact make everything more painful. Gripe water is a better option but it won’t help a severe case of bloat and prescribed meds are needed.
With regard to the cisapride, the vet has prescribed it so you need to give it in accordance with the prescription. We will never tell anyone to go against the advice of a vet when it comes to prescribed meds.

By eating his poop she is trying to help settle her gut, but if he is on meds as well then his poop is not going to help her - of course you cant tell her that so definitely keep trying to get her to take the Fibreplex. Mix it in with her critical care to disguise it. Not all guineas will like Fibreplex so disguising it can help.

The key thing is fibre - they both needs lots of hay and critical care.
Giving veg can cause problems for piggies with bloat

I’ve added some guides in below

Wiebke's Guide to Tummy Trouble
Weight and Weight Loss Explained: BMI, Weighing, Poos and Feeding Support Levels
 
I’m sorry to hear this

Are you weighing them both each morning?
It is very important that you do as it is the only way to know the are getting enough hay and critical care to keep their weight stable each day.

Infacol - well, it’s not something the forum recommends. Infacol gathers gas into a big bubble. That is fine for human babies but guinea pig guts are very different (much thinner) and one big bubble can in fact make everything more painful. Gripe water is a better option but it won’t help a severe case of bloat and prescribed meds are needed.
With regard to the cisapride, the vet has prescribed it so you need to give it in accordance with the prescription. We will never tell anyone to go against the advice of a vet when it comes to prescribed meds.

By eating his poop she is trying to help settle her gut, but if he is on meds as well then his poop is not going to help her - of course you cant tell her that so definitely keep trying to get her to take the Fibreplex. Mix it in with her critical care to disguise it. Not all guineas will like Fibreplex so disguising it can help.

The key thing is fibre - they both needs lots of hay and critical care.
Giving veg can cause problems for piggies with bloat

I’ve added some guides in below

Wiebke's Guide to Tummy Trouble
Weight and Weight Loss Explained: BMI, Weighing, Poos and Feeding Support Levels
Thank you ☺️
One friend said about offering fresh mint for the bloat and gas, have you ever come across this?
 
I’m sorry to hear this

Are you weighing them both each morning?
It is very important that you do as it is the only way to know the are getting enough hay and critical care to keep their weight stable each day.

Infacol - well, it’s not something the forum recommends. Infacol gathers gas into a big bubble. That is fine for human babies but guinea pig guts are very different (much thinner) and one big bubble can in fact make everything more painful. Gripe water is a better option but it won’t help a severe case of bloat and prescribed meds are needed.
With regard to the cisapride, the vet has prescribed it so you need to give it in accordance with the prescription. We will never tell anyone to go against the advice of a vet when it comes to prescribed meds.

By eating his poop she is trying to help settle her gut, but if he is on meds as well then his poop is not going to help her - of course you cant tell her that so definitely keep trying to get her to take the Fibreplex. Mix it in with her critical care to disguise it. Not all guineas will like Fibreplex so disguising it can help.

The key thing is fibre - they both needs lots of hay and critical care.
Giving veg can cause problems for piggies with bloat

I’ve added some guides in below

Wiebke's Guide to Tummy Trouble
Weight and Weight Loss Explained: BMI, Weighing, Poos and Feeding Support Levels
Forgot to say, both are right weight and whilst the guinea who was spayed lost weight, she’s steady now and is the right weight. The other is slightly overweight, but I do wonder if it’s the gas?

Do you have any suggestions on what I could mix the fibreplex in with to ensure she gets full dose? The male is wafting it down, so he’s no problem dear of him.

I assume it’s the baytril that is causing her gut imbalance. I’ll ask the vet when she is coming up to 10 days as to whether stop the baytril or not, don’t want to stress her out any longer.
 
No I haven’t.
Although I do know mint does aid digestion, and herbs are easier on the gut. But as I say, it is advisable for piggies with bloat to not be given veg anyway.

Weight and heft are two different things.
Weight is the guide to whether they are eating enough hay. Lose weight day on day and they are not eating enough.
Weight monitoring during illness is not about being the right weight (as there is no such thing) as such, it’s about monitoring to ensure they are eating enough hay and critical care to remain stable.
Sudden weight gain can be contributed to by gas.

Heft is the way to determine whether a piggy is the right size for themselves. If you cannot feel any ribs then a piggy would be considered overweight (most likely cause is being overfeed pellets and sugary fruit and veg).

Mix the fibreplex into his critical care feeds.

Yes antibiotics can affect their appetite. It’s important to syringe feed adequately through it and keep up with the prescribed meds and probiotics.
 
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