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Thanks @Wiebke I will do, it doesn't seem to be bothering him anymore so hopefully he'll stop scratching it for now. He's got an appointment tomorrow evening but I'll phone them first thing tomorrow and see if they can move him earlier. I phoned the emergency vet and the gave the same advice :) Have had a good inspect of it, looks quite red and raw in the centre and scabby and pale greenish/grey and flaky round the edges where it's peeling. Doesn't seem to be any pus or discharge going on far as I can tell but can't hold him still and use the camera at the same time. Will try and get a video and post via Youtube.
 
Thanks @Wiebke I will do, it doesn't seem to be bothering him anymore so hopefully he'll stop scratching it for now. He's got an appointment tomorrow evening but I'll phone them first thing tomorrow and see if they can move him earlier. I phoned the emergency vet and the gave the same advice :) Have had a good inspect of it, looks quite red and raw in the centre and scabby and pale greenish/grey and flaky round the edges where it's peeling. Doesn't seem to be any pus or discharge going on far as I can tell but can't hold him still and use the camera at the same time. Will try and get a video and post via Youtube.

All the best. Tomorrow evening should be OK.
 
@Wiebke I managed to get a friend to come round and help take some slightly better photos if you don't mind having a look? Also, for the saline should the salt be added to the water whilst it is hot or after it has cooled? Thanks.

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Also, for saline treatment sound it be syriged on then dried or dabbed on with a wet napkin or similar?
 
Thanks, I wasn't sure so I just used the cooled water without the salt incase. I'll boil some more up and add salt this time then.

Oh jeez, he's been right through the ringer poor wee thing, he was looking so much better this morning too, and teh vet checked his mouth and everything on Wednesday night and said it looked fine :(
 
Poor little guy. Looks like fungal to me (not that I'm a vet). He has been through the wringer. Hopefully if it's fungal the vet can give you intrafungol or sopranos (oral medication in syringe again) that will clear it up. Don't worry too much about it - tomorrow eve's appointment at vet will be fine. It's not an emergency situation so save yourself some cash.
 
Dammit :/ I was worried about that, can they treat his UTI and fungal simultaneously? How serious is fungal, never had that before. He's also now started scratching around his neck and ears, does this mean it's spreading? :/
 
Just don't panic, carry on as you were doing before this happened. I'm no vet but I'm sure they can treat it at same time. You obviously have good vet care in Glasgow and your vets (and you) are on the ball, so trust them that they can treat this. Fungal is very itchy for the piggy. It can go very quickly from a tiny dot to more plaques and hair loss so it looks very dramatic. treatment stops it spreading further but the hairloss gets a bit worse before it gets better. My Mabel had a bad patch in her face last year and looked horrific but it did clear fully and you'd never know now she'd had it.
If it is fungal you will need to do a deep clean of the cage (just to add to your burden!) to kill off fungal spores. The best cleaner is F10 - you can get it online or from the vets (it's cheaper at my vets than online strangely enough). It's best to soak all wooden items in f10 to kill spores or bin them and replace with new ones.
 
Thanks Vicki, I think I'd be going insane if not for you lot! He is still eating, drinking and peeing although no poops for a hour or so and is back to being a wee bit lethargic, maybe last night's accidental painkiller boost was a hidden blessing afterall! It does seem to have come on very suddenly, the vet gave him a good look over including dental and mouth check only last night. In fairness he did want to minimise the oral meds to stop any irritation building so may have seen it and hoped for the better I suppose. I don't mind deep cleaning the cage, it gets done frequently anyway and will be much easier now it's smaller. I may even just bin it and start a new one, I've plenty spare correx kicking about. I've already cleaned out the cage and started fresh hays, and taken all the wood toys out, I left the tunnels because they're cardboard or should they come out too? I'll bin the wood but ask for some F10 at the vet tomorrow :)
 
If the vet confirms that it's fungal you just need to clean down everything. The correx and grids are fine as they are wipeable with f10 solution. Wash any fleecy things at 60 to kill the spores. Wood, that was in at the time of start treatment should be soaked in f10 or binned, and I bin all cardboard things like tubes and even a carrot house that had barely been attacked and just replace them with fresh ones.
Good luck at the vets this evening.
 
Update: Vet gave him a thorough looking over, urine test, checked his gut, inspected his mouth and the wound, clipped his nails and did a mites check just for peace of mind with the itching.

His urine test came back clean on both the dip and the microscope, his guts feel totally healthy and there's no noticeable gas buildup, so slowly start him back on his veg again. The cut on his chin doesn't appear fungal and has scabbed over well so he said just leave him on the antibiotics to prevent any infection and he'll check it again on Monday to see if it's improved or if it would be worth starting a fungal treatment, and just to check the cage for any sharp edges he may have caught it on. His mites test also came back negative, the few flecks he did see were just dandruff so he's not sure about the itching and thinks it may just be all the different meds messing with his system a wee bit.

Overall, so long as the cut heals nicely they're happy to sign him off as perfectly healthy and I should just carefully monitor him, with regular check ups if I feel them necessary :D Not counting my chickens yet but so happy!
 
Dammit :/ I was worried about that, can they treat his UTI and fungal simultaneously? How serious is fungal, never had that before. He's also now started scratching around his neck and ears, does this mean it's spreading? :/

As one is internal and the other one is external, they can be treated at the same time. Fungal infections are typically opportunistic problems that pounce when the immune system is compromised or under major stress.
Please get a vet diagnosis; we can only show up avenues to pursue with your vet.

Here are our tips if your vet diagnoses ringworm: Ringworm: Hygiene And Pictures
 
Update: Vet gave him a thorough looking over, urine test, checked his gut, inspected his mouth and the wound, clipped his nails and did a mites check just for peace of mind with the itching.

His urine test came back clean on both the dip and the microscope, his guts feel totally healthy and there's no noticeable gas buildup, so slowly start him back on his veg again. The cut on his chin doesn't appear fungal and has scabbed over well so he said just leave him on the antibiotics to prevent any infection and he'll check it again on Monday to see if it's improved or if it would be worth starting a fungal treatment, and just to check the cage for any sharp edges he may have caught it on. His mites test also came back negative, the few flecks he did see were just dandruff so he's not sure about the itching and thinks it may just be all the different meds messing with his system a wee bit.

Overall, so long as the cut heals nicely they're happy to sign him off as perfectly healthy and I should just carefully monitor him, with regular check ups if I feel them necessary :D Not counting my chickens yet but so happy!


At last some good news for you :yahoo:
 
As one is internal and the other one is external, they can be treated at the same time. Fungal infections are typically opportunistic problems that pounce when the immune system is compromised or under major stress.
Please get a vet diagnosis; we can only show up avenues to pursue with your vet.

Here are our tips if your vet diagnoses ringworm: Ringworm: Hygiene And Pictures

@Wiebke I had him in to the vet this afternoon, they don't think it's fungal as now it' been cleaned up and scabbed over they think it looks like too clean a cut and he's probably just scratched himself too hard overgrooming or he's caught it on something in the cage. They think everything else has cleared up so they want to leave him on the antibacs over the weekend to see if the scabbing clears up and check him on Monday, if it's still as bad/any worse they'll treat him with fungals just incase but they said they don't want to throw any more meds at him unneccesarily until he's had a chance to balance back out a bit :)
 
@Wiebke I had him in to the vet this afternoon, they don't think it's fungal as now it' been cleaned up and scabbed over they think it looks like too clean a cut and he's probably just scratched himself too hard overgrooming or he's caught it on something in the cage. They think everything else has cleared up so they want to leave him on the antibacs over the weekend to see if the scabbing clears up and check him on Monday, if it's still as bad/any worse they'll treat him with fungals just incase but they said they don't want to throw any more meds at him unneccesarily until he's had a chance to balance back out a bit :)

If it is fungal, you will see the affected area around it growing failry quickly over the next days and being whiteish crusty. ;)

All the best that he settles down and is starting to feel better in himself.
 
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Here's a pic of Mabel's fungal from last August. You can see the whiteish plaques which form just before they (and the hair) drop out. The scabs were from her scratching. This was about a day or 2 after she started on oral fungal meds. That then halted the spread, although the hairloss did get worse before it got better, as there were more plaques hidden under the hair in that area. She's fully recovered from it now and her hair grew back beautifully.
With any luck Weasley won't have fungal, but It helps to be able to recognise it if it is.
Wishing him a speedy return to full health and recovery and you a return to normality. These piggies can end up taking over!
 
Thanks guys, I'll keep a close eye on him and watch out for the plaques appearing!

Oh no poor Mabel, that looks very sore :( I'm glad she made a full recovery and is looking pretty and proud again :) thank you for the photo, gives me a much better idea of what to look out for :)

He thanks you both for the well wishes :)
 
Update: Had a follow up for his chin today and vet gave him another once over, and said he's happy to sign him off as healthy but just to keep a close eye. He's been a bit lethargic and unstable when first getting up and has been breathing a bit heavier than usual since coming off the meds but vet thinks its just the start of some minor arthritis that was being masked by the level of painkiller he was on and won't do him any harm :)

He's just to be observed over the next month or so for any behavioural changes and then decide based on how he's doing health wise and behaviour wise whether he's happy enough on his own or if it's worth getting him another little friend.

Overall message though, he is well again and largely thanks to the wonderful advice from you guys so thanks all once again from Weasley and myself :)
 
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