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Help! My new guinea pig worries me!

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Hi,
I recently got my first pet a new guinea pig (pocket), last Thursday. A person in my neighborhood was giving him away because his new guinea pig wasn't getting along with this one. Pocket was slowly opening up and at the beginning wasn't eating but is now eating well. I have a few things to say though. Some good some bad. Not sure which is which though.
  • He stays in his hideout all day. (He comes out when I come with veggies and when I'm not there he does nibble at the hay but doesn't seem to eat his own body size of hay every day like websites say guinea pigs should).
  • His ears have a "dirty brown" color patch on them.
  • Behind his ears is a spot with no fur, the skin looks.... weird. It has tiny black dots there.
  • When I pet him there, sometimes it is fine, sometimes after a bit he out of the blue wiggles his body from side to side exactly how dogs wiggle water out of their fur after swimming. (in a side-to-side kind of motion).
  • He looks chubby or fat, not sure if he really is or if all guinea pigs are like that. (Hard to tell because he looks like a rounded brick.)
  • He has vertical hairs sticking out around his eye.
  • When I give him my hand to smell he used to nib it cutely. Now he kind of licks it.
  • His paws worry me. If I remember correctly, but I'm not sure, his paws were all pink went I got him. But now, his back right paw is partially black. and his front left paw is black too. His back leg black paw is also a tiny bit lifted above the ground, his nails don't touch the ground. From other people's experiences I've seen they say it may be serious and it may be a lack of blood flow.
  • He is losing some hair. Not a ton, but whenever he fights me when I try to examine his paw, he loses a good 5-8 hairs.
  • He scratches himself a lot. Not often, but when he does he keeps doing it for a minute pretty seriously.
I'm not sure what to do since I don't want to go to the vet for nothing (people say they are expensive), and because I'm no expert in his behavior, so he may be fine. Please let me know as I just want to make sure he is fine. I just got him Thursday and I don't want to regret it. He is super cute and I have hours and hours on hand to pet him and socialize with him. People say getting 2 is better than 1 but if I feel worried already so I'm not sure if 2 is the best idea. I have the time to socialize with him all day and people online say that if you have the time, you should be fine with 1.

Please let me know if any of these are of concern and what to do with any of them. If needed, I can provide pictures.
 
Hi there - we are all asleep in the UK (I have insomnia!) but people should start coming online in the next 2 or 3 hours so if you want to post pictures of any worry areas keep them in this thread so everything is together 😉

First thing is check he is definitely a boy. There are lots of Guinea Pig Guides linked at the top of this page which are great for new owners!

Next, yes he will hide a lot for a while, this is quite normal. They are prey animals and every decision he is making he thinks is life-or-death! If that other pig was picking on him he is probably happier without him, but he will always be happier with others of his kind. Remember that story 'Jungle Book' where Mowgli is raised by wolves in the jungle? Well a lot of folks like dogs, but if you give them the option they would much rather live with people than never see another of their own kind. Piggies would always rather live with, or even next door to, other piggies... they can love us too, but we don't understand what they are saying when they 'talk'. In the US it seems to be common to buy just one. Here in the UK the 'normal' is that they are sold/rescued as pairs, and in some countries like Switzerland it is actually illegal to keep one alone! So our experts will of course talk about finding him a friend at some point. It also shows a whole new side to their personality as they run and play and chat together! Over here is currently a lock-down because of covid but when that finishes our animal rescue centres open up again and they provide a service called 'guinea-pig dating' where you can take your pig along and they will try to find a match for them. Perhaps you can locate some rescue centres in your area and ask if this is available. Don't be tempted to get a 'girlfriend' for your boy - you'll end up with dozens as they breed really quick, and there are often medical emergencies/losses along the way. We don't 'breed' on this forum ☺

Next thing is you will end up seeing a vet sooner or later. Piggies have an average lifespan of about 5 years but some can live a few years longer! Yes a vet trip can be expensive so at this point it might be worth finding a few local vet practices and calling to see the cost of a consultation. Some might not treat guinea-pigs at all... some might be 'exotic experts' (these will probably be more expensive!) but what you want is a practice you can trust and you feel comfortable with. Here are a few links Guinea Lynx :: Finding a Veterinarian and Veterinarians: Maryland - Guinea Lynx Records which I hope might be useful. We are a UK based site but guinealynx is really useful too and there are international recommendations. We have to save up so we can afford the vet when we need one because if piggies get poorly they hide it pretty well so by the time we notice it can be pretty urgent and sometimes all it needs is a week of antibiotics and painkiller to make him comfortable and save his life (yes - there is a painkiller for guinea pigs who are feeling uncomfortable!) Some vets are near an animal rescue so they can see more than their fair share of piggies and get a lot of experience, but it all depends on where you are and we just have to try our best.

Next, we recommend weighing him weekly (a kitchen scale is fine... do it on the floor in case he jumps out) as it is a real good way to spot any problems early on. Guinea pig diet should be mainly hay (80%!) which means they chew a LOT and this keeps their teeth in good condition (their teeth grow throughout their lives). If he's shy put hay in his hidey and you should hear him munching! If they just live on pellets and veg it will upset the tummy so it's hay, hay, all the way! They love grass but if he's not had it before start with a little at a time. They need vitamin C like people do but we don't recommend any supplements for healthy piggies - there is plenty in the grass and hay, and also in things like bell pepper (any colour) which they usually love. I give a slice per pig every day. His weight might go up and down a bit. An adult male might reach 1.2 kilo - my George is a bit fatter - so with an adult you get concerned if there is any weight loss 50g or more (unless he puts it back on the next week!) Make sure he has access to good fresh water all the time - some barely drink but if you get a guzzler it's great as they are much less likely to get urinary problems later in life. Some pigs are too shy to come out when they are thirsty - put his drink bottle/bowl right near the hidey for now so he just has to poke his head out! You will become very familiar with pig poop because there's a lot of it - they poop all the time. It is another good way to monitor his health. If he poops less, or it is smaller, it can be because he has been too shy to come out and eat so just move the food closer to him. Some people cover the whole cage for the first week or so - I didn't , but I cover mine at night time because they will walk around and eat at night too. You can put in another hidey - a cardboard box is fine (George has one - he also eats a bit of it) and he will run between the two!

If he is nibbing and licking at your hand he likes you and is getting to know you. Also bear in mind that because of their big noses and where their eyes are they can't see where their mouth is so they are always nibbing around, hoping for something tasty!

Right - the health bit. We are not vets and so we can't diagnose but if we see a photo we can tell you whether something looks normal or not! So if you want to post a few pics that's fine. First though, they all have a bald spot behind the ears - that is completely normal! It is also useful as if your piggy ever ends up having lice (which can be seen, like headlice on kids) or mites (too small to see) there is a very effective spot-on medication that you apply to the skin and I use the bald bit behind the ears! If he is scratching and shedding a lot then you might have to consider mites/lice, especially if he starts getting significant hair loss and bald spots (and especially around his rump). The 'tiny black dots' might be natural colour variation where the hairs would have been, or possible mite 'debris' (poop, basically) but you should see this in hair all over him - and esp at the back end. These critters are not a people-problem so you won't catch anything, but they can be transferred to/from other pigs so best to get it sorted before finding a friend or you'll be treating both! You'll need to see a vet to get the meds if it is this the case. 6-8 hairs is normal shedding... 30+ at a stroke I'd be more concerned although other things can cause this... when we turn our heating on in winter everyone sheds a bit more! If you can possibly afford it and you can find a vet we would always recommend a vet check for any new piggy, especially if they are going to be added to ones you already have - but I realise this is not possible for everyone.

Tell us how old you think he is - less than a year? Less than 6 months? Some pigs do change colour as they get older. Take a pic of his paws as he is standing (if you can!) here is a pic of 2 of mine. See how the one on the left has a black toe and claw? Perfectly healthy - just her really creepy colouring!
Girls are chillin'.webp

Sometimes pigs can get 'bumblefoot' but you'll easily recognise this because it is an open sore on the sole of the foot (normal soles can look very weird and lumpy but no open sores or blood, obviously!) It can be treated but is best avoided. But don't confuse yourself too much over these things unless you think they are a problem. You might just have a very wonderful and perfectly healthy guinea-pig and I can tell you already love him very much 💕
 
WOW! thank you so much this is a lot! I feel so much better now! He wasn't drinking and coming out until literally 30 minutes after my post he came out of his hideout- in front of me -to eat some pellets, hay, and he went to the other side of the fence to drink from his bottle. (This was really exciting because I didn't see him drink since I got him so I was giving him water-rich foods such as cucumbers and tomatoes. I'm happy to hear the amount of shedding is normal and super happy to hear his licks are equivalent to kisses. I will definitely do some research on good vets near me and their pricing and I'll take your advice on saving up a little bit every month for vet visits. Yes, I have noticed he is pooing a lot and for now, it seems his poo looks good to me! I doubt he has bumblefoot because he has no soars, and I will ask the past owners if they are certain about his sex and about his age. I weighed him today and he weights around 1.3 so that should be fine. I will measure him weekly (sometimes daily) to track his weight, and in the morning I will post some pictures of his feet. By the way, your piggies are adorable. Thank you so much for this information!
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When you get guinea pigs, you should give them a week to settle in before you start thinking about handling etc. For now, just make sure he has fresh hay, his daily veg and a tablespoon of pellets. You can also poo pick. Once the week is over you can then start the weighing and trying to hand feed.

With regards to feeding, tomatoes shouldn’t be fed daily. They’re acidic and can cause sores on the mouth.

You will have to get him a friend, as soon as possible. It’s not fair to make him live alone for another however many years. One of their rights is to have companionship of their own kind. If you can’t (or don’t want to) fulfil that right then it’s time to think whether guinea pigs are suitable for you.

They’re not cheap as they’re made out to be. It’s very important that you have an experienced vet to take him to. I know this can be difficult in the US. I would book him in for a check early next week.

Daily veg that you can feed is coriander, cucumber and bell pepper. Pellets (grass based) he only needs a tablespoon a day. Hay and more hay should be what he’s eating. Have a read of the guides I’ve linked below. It’s too much to repeat here. I’ve also posted a link for vets and rescues. The latter would be the best way to get him a friend.

New Owners' Most Helpful How-To Guides and Information
Guinea Lynx :: GL's Vet List
Guinea Lynx :: US Guinea Pig Rescue and Shelter Organizations
 
Hi,
I recently got my first pet a new guinea pig (pocket), last Thursday. A person in my neighborhood was giving him away because his new guinea pig wasn't getting along with this one. Pocket was slowly opening up and at the beginning wasn't eating but is now eating well. I have a few things to say though. Some good some bad. Not sure which is which though.
  • He stays in his hideout all day. (He comes out when I come with veggies and when I'm not there he does nibble at the hay but doesn't seem to eat his own body size of hay every day like websites say guinea pigs should).
  • His ears have a "dirty brown" color patch on them.
  • Behind his ears is a spot with no fur, the skin looks.... weird. It has tiny black dots there.
  • When I pet him there, sometimes it is fine, sometimes after a bit he out of the blue wiggles his body from side to side exactly how dogs wiggle water out of their fur after swimming. (in a side-to-side kind of motion).
  • He looks chubby or fat, not sure if he really is or if all guinea pigs are like that. (Hard to tell because he looks like a rounded brick.)
  • He has vertical hairs sticking out around his eye.
  • When I give him my hand to smell he used to nib it cutely. Now he kind of licks it.
  • His paws worry me. If I remember correctly, but I'm not sure, his paws were all pink went I got him. But now, his back right paw is partially black. and his front left paw is black too. His back leg black paw is also a tiny bit lifted above the ground, his nails don't touch the ground. From other people's experiences I've seen they say it may be serious and it may be a lack of blood flow.
  • He is losing some hair. Not a ton, but whenever he fights me when I try to examine his paw, he loses a good 5-8 hairs.
  • He scratches himself a lot. Not often, but when he does he keeps doing it for a minute pretty seriously.
I'm not sure what to do since I don't want to go to the vet for nothing (people say they are expensive), and because I'm no expert in his behavior, so he may be fine. Please let me know as I just want to make sure he is fine. I just got him Thursday and I don't want to regret it. He is super cute and I have hours and hours on hand to pet him and socialize with him. People say getting 2 is better than 1 but if I feel worried already so I'm not sure if 2 is the best idea. I have the time to socialize with him all day and people online say that if you have the time, you should be fine with 1.

Please let me know if any of these are of concern and what to do with any of them. If needed, I can provide pictures.

I'll try to tackle these things as best as I can, in order.
- Nervous new pigs will hide and stay in their hideout all day. They are prey animals, instinctively they know that hidden is safer. This is very normal. Put food close to or in his hidey so he will comfortably eat while hidden. He is also likely popping out at night when you aren't looking to eat and drink.
-What color is your pig? Any patches of color on him? Skin is pigmented just like the overlying fur- in areas with no fur, skin is still pigmented. So a brown spot on ears is just like a brown patch in the coat.
-All guinea pigs have a patch with no hair behind their ear... it's normal. Including a picture of the skin for anything weird would probably help us to see if there's anything up, but the fur-free patch itself is normal anatomy.
-Can you post a video of the behavior? Guinea pigs do rumble (sway from side to side) as a dominance behavior... they will also shake to rearrange their fur if they feel ruffled. Would this explain what you're seeing?
-Guinea pigs are chubby little animals. He's probably well within the range of normal. They are little furry potatoes. LOL!
-As long as the hair is not growing into the eye and the eye itself looks clear/not watery, it's probably just his coat. They also have longer guard hairs in their coat, like whiskers, you may be seeing those.
-A lot of guinea pigs will nibble and/or lick people's hands. It's very normal.
-Like ears, feet can have pigmentation just like fur. It's normal to have pink feet, brown feet, black feet, or any combination thereof. Could you be misremembering all the feet being pink at first? It's hard to see their feet when they're standing. Could you ask the person that gave him to you if they remember? Again, I'm just thinking this is more likely to be normal pigmentation than a circulation problem.
-Just like any other animal with fur, guinea pigs shed. As long as he is not developing bald patches, this is probably normal shedding. When seasons change my pigs shed so much that you can pat them and end up with a handful of fur at the end... this is still normal shedding, just like dogs and cats.
-It's hard to say how much scratching is too much scratches. Guinea pigs can get mites and other parasites. This may be worth a vet visit just to put your mind at ease and to treat if there is an actual problem.
-The one versus two debate... everyone on this forum is going to tell you that two is better than one, no matter how much time you have to give and how much you love the little guy. A human, even a very loving and attentive one, cannot replace another guinea pig any more than your guinea pig could replace all your human relationships without you noticing that anything was missing from your life. They are naturally wired to relate to other guinea pigs. They find comfort/safety in the group and in being part of a hierarchy. They learn from each other by observing and following behavior (watching resident pigs 'teach' new arrivals is one of the best parts of having guinea pigs, in my experience.) The absolute BEST thing you can ever give your guinea pig is another guinea pig... it will enrich his life immensely and he will be much happier. And in turn, you'll get to see a much wider array of guinea pig behavior and it will enrich your experience as a pet owner. It's truly best for all concerned.

Overall.... because you're a new owner and have concerns, I would see a vet to rule out any issues. A consult is really not that expensive and you will want to have a vet on hand in case something comes up later on. Look for a vet that is familiar with guinea pigs... in the US/Canada they are typically billed as seeing 'exotic' pets or 'pocket pets.' They are not necessarily more expensive than any other vet- each vet sets their own prices, so phone around and see what you can find. Also get the vet to confirm the sex of your pig. Once you know for sure what sex your pig is, please, PLEASE consider a second pig. It's the most loving thing you can do as as an owner and it will make his life so much fuller and richer than being an only pig ever could. Hope this helps, all the best!
 
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