rodent

New Born Pup
Joined
Jun 21, 2023
Messages
11
Reaction score
3
Points
35
Location
United Kingdom
Hi, this is my first time posting so apologies in advance if I'm not as quick as others.

I'll give you an intro before getting to the issue


Early 2013
So 10 years ago, (I was 10) I bought 2 female guinea pigs from the most popular pet shop in the UK. (I'll call them P & T)
I had a simple cage for them with 'everything they needed' but within a couple of weeks, I upgraded to a 2 tier cage.
Fast forwarding time as this isn't relevant, I upgraded to a guinea pig hutch, then a 6ft rabbit hutch and eventually stopped altogether and allowed them to free roam around the house.

Early 2019
In 2019 P passed away, which left T alone.

Within a couple of weeks, I went to my friend (who's an experienced guineapig breeder) and adopted 2 little female babies (W & A)

Almost instantly, T became such an energetic 6ish-year-old, loving the new babies and it made me realise she has started becoming depressed about P.

Late 2019
Months later, I went back to my friend and adopted another (F), and another (T) aaand another (S).

Early 2020
Eventually, the older piggy (T) passed away as an elderly piggy.
The other piggies mourned, but things went back to normal somewhat quickly.

Mid 2020
6 or so months after that, I adopted another (C)

Early 2021
within another year, there was one more little baby (A). A was introduced to S as her own baby, which she immediately accepted and they were both the same breed which helped them form their unseperable relationship.
Back to the point, I adopted (A) early 2021 at about 8 weeks old or so. She forever stayed the baby of the group, but the leader and the loudest.

Late 2021
I adopted 2 cats from a shelter (B & L) and was a little unsure how they would all get on so the pigs went from having a 3 level human house, to their (big) room.
They were not affected by this change


Late 2022
A
started losing weight, gradually. (all my pigs are between 1 - 1.2kg) and I pretty much instantly took her to the vet. Nothing was wrong.
She had a strong appetite, was full of life and was the friendliest lil piggy ever.

After a couple of months of this, I started syringing food into her mouth as the vet mentioned she could have issues with her back teeth and they would have to sedate her to properly see it, yet she was way too light and most lilely wouldn't wake up from this.
eventually, she became weaker and weaker and strayed away from being able to stand up to being told shes at high risk of having a heart attack.

On every vet visit, A would travel with S to keep her company as they just never wanted to be apart.

May 2023
A few weeks after A's 2nd birthday, I came home to her in the middle of the room with all the pigs around her. She wasn't breathing.

This was traumatic for the pigs and me to find.

I gave them as much attention and enrichment as i could, taking time off work to fill that hole they formed in the group.

As mcuh as I wanna talk about this, I will move on.

June 2023
S
became distant, not wanting to eat and she's not been herself. the others showed signs of being unsociable but S was really hit with this.

It's been weeks now, as we're in June 2023. S eats, but she's gone from 1.1kg to 0.6kg.... I've made her a vet appointment for tomorrow but I needed to come here to talk about this and if there is anything I can do from experienced guinea pig lovers.

She just lays in one of her tubes most of the day, on her belly so her back legs are spread out like a duck and you can see the sole of her feet.
She's a Peruvian piggy so her fur is very long and grows completely over her face, A used to barber it for her but now I've been doing it. Her fur is almost always dirty and wet. she won't look after herself and I don't know what more I can do for her.

I do currently have 6 piggies in total so S should't feel lonely but A was like a baby to her.
W - 4yrs
A - 4yrs
F - 3yrs
T - 3yrs
S - 3yrs
C - 2 yrs
All female
All happy and healthy (except S)


please feel free to ask questions. ask many as you'd like
 
I’m glad you have got an appointment for the piggy you are referring to as S.

Medical issues always need to be ruled out before assuming it is anything like depression.

Are you syringe feeding her and weighing her daily at this point? It is essential you do this to stop any more weight loss.

Emergency and Crisis Care as well as Bridging Care until a Vet Appointment
All About Syringe Feeding and Medicating Guinea Pigs with Videos and Pictures

Do you keep her hair cut short around her bottom to help her not get soiled?
 
Hi, I haven't been syringe feeding her as she seems to be eating somewhat well.

I will weigh her after my evening shift, which is almost finished.

Thank you for your response
 
Weight loss of 50g requires action to be taken so the fact she has lost 500g means she definitely needs help. She is losing so much weight because she isn’t eating enough hay, whether depression or a medical reason is behind it is unknown at present but the weight loss needs to be stopped.
 
Weight loss of 50g requires action to be taken so the fact she has lost 500g means she definitely needs help. She is losing so much weight because she isn’t eating enough hay, whether depression or a medical reason is behind it is unknown at present but the weight loss needs to be stopped.
Just weighed S, and she's still around the 650g mark.

I used to make a 'soup' for the pigs with carrots, nuggets, water etc for T and A when they were unwell before passing just to make eating easier along with syringe feeding. I will start doing that again on top of everything.

It gives them all their essentials, but also tastes so good and isn't difficult to eat. Obviously, they need to gnaw but they have plenty of toys n other foods.
 
Just weighed S, and she's still around the 650g mark.

I used to make a 'soup' for the pigs with carrots, nuggets, water etc for T and A when they were unwell before passing just to make eating easier along with syringe feeding. I will start doing that again on top of everything.

It gives them all their essentials, but also tastes so good and isn't difficult to eat. Obviously, they need to gnaw but they have plenty of toys n other foods.

I personally would not add carrots or certainly not much, they are very high in sugar, mushed nuggets or a proper recovery feed for syringe feeding. Mushed nuggets is the emergency syringe feed but it is slightly lower in fibre than a proper recovery feed.

If she is still eating some hay then that is the only thing will keep her teeth wearing down (toys don’t), she just isn’t eating enough of it to maintain her weight for some reason.
 
I’m so sorry you lost A.

Good luck at the vets. I hope it’s something easily treatable. Please step in with syringe feeding as S is very light now.
 
I personally would not add carrots or certainly not much, they are very high in sugar, mushed nuggets or a proper recovery feed for syringe feeding. Mushed nuggets is the emergency syringe feed but it is slightly lower in fibre than a proper recovery feed.

If she is still eating some hay then that is the only thing will keep her teeth wearing down (toys don’t), she just isn’t eating enough of it to maintain her weight for some reason.
She's definitely still eating hay, I have a security camera on them to see if she is. Her teeth are blunt and not overgrown so she's still chewing.
 
She's definitely still eating hay, I have a security camera on them to see if she is. Her teeth are blunt and not overgrown so she's still chewing.

Yes it’s good she is still eating some hay but for her to have lost so much weight she isn’t eating enough. Hay intake cannot be gauged by eye, it’s the daily weight checks which tell you that she is getting enough syringe feed and independent hay during any illness
 
I’m so sorry you lost A.

Good luck at the vets. I hope it’s something easily treatable. Please step in with syringe feeding as S is very light now.
Thank you for your message.

A was always tiny and the type of piggy to run around your feet waiting for a cuddle. She would purr so loudly when you ran your fingers through her fur.

I will focus on S. I didn't panic too much with her as all the pigs lost weight when A passed away, but not as extreme as S and they've also gained it back now.
 
Yes it’s good she is still eating some hay but for her to have lost so much weight she isn’t eating enough. Hay intake cannot be gauged by eye, it’s the daily weight checks which tell you that she is getting enough syringe feed and independent hay during any illness
So with S going forward:

Daily weight checks
Syringe feeding (how often)
Vet visit tomorrow evening
 
So with S going forward:

Daily weight checks
Syringe feeding (how often)
Vet visit tomorrow evening

Yes that’s good

How often she needs to be syringe fed is dependent upon what her daily weight checks tell you. It’s best to weight first thing each morning but if that isn’t possible with your personal schedule then what is key is that the weight checks are done at the same time each day so that you are comparing day with day in the same place in the feeding cycle.
If she loses more weight each day then she needs to be syringe fed more.
It can vary from just needing a couple of top ups a day ie weight is pretty stable from day to day; to being fed every two hours during the day and once at night getting in a minimum of 60ml per day to stop daily weight loss and start to stabilise a piggy.

This guide explains everything further

All About Syringe Feeding and Medicating Guinea Pigs with Videos and Pictures
 
Thank you so much, I'll still go ahead with the vet visit

Are there any possible causes you can think of? It's happened so close to A passing that I worry she's upset or caught a disease somehow. I just need to hope for the best but prepare for the worst.

Weighing S daily will be pretty easy, but we will see how the syringe feeding goes as she's a little fussy.

I'll keep this updated hopefully
 
Thank you so much, I'll still go ahead with the vet visit

Are there any possible causes you can think of? It's happened so close to A passing that I worry she's upset or caught a disease somehow. I just need to hope for the best but prepare for the worst.

Weighing S daily will be pretty easy, but we will see how the syringe feeding goes as she's a little fussy.

I'll keep this updated hopefully

It could be anything from an illness requiring medication to it actually being acute pining (which is rare but does happen), we could not guess though. The vet is the one who needs rot make the diagnosis based on a hands on check.

It is important she doesn’t lose any more weight though.

Let us know how you get on at the vet appointment
 
🤞Hoping you find out what’s wrong with S, if the vet can rule out illness then it may be that she is really missing her closest friend
 
Hey all,

S is a Peruvian piggy, she has long thick fur where I have to give her weekly trims otherwise it drags behind her like a veil and her fringe grows fully over her face.

She's a beautiful piggy and just keeps laying around like a little duck...

The vet said her teeth look good from the quick look she managed to get before S wouldn't stop licking her

Her temperature was normal

She was talkative

the vet couldn't rule out cancer, gingivitis and a bunch of other issues

But the most likely, (hopefully) is that she's too hot.

I followed the vet's advice and trimmed her fur very short everywhere, but her head

She was wiggling around and trying to run when I was holding her, but as soon as I started cutting, she flopped and has been so happy

thankfully, the floor in their room is always cold so they've been laying on it but I'm about to invest in a fan or some sort of little cold pad for her to lay on as the vet mentioned Peruvian pigs are sensitive to temperature change.
 
How was her weight at todays weight check?

Make sure a fan is not pointing directly at her.
Have you taken other measures to ensure the room is kept cool?

Hot Weather Management, Heat Strokes and Fly Strike
Well the piggies have the whole room and the fan is pointed at about 1/3 of the room, so they have plenty of space to avoid it if needed.

Her weight is stable

I've locked some windows slightly open, I can't fully open them as my cats would poop on the pigs' houses (they have before)

Her fur is short now, especially on her belly so I think that's helped her have skin contact with the cool floor. I've installed Lino in their room which thankfully stays cool constantly.

The room is a mix of lino and fleece with the choice of multiple houses or underneath the sofa (it is a big gap underneath, even I could fit) so don't worry

I will update this thread as often as I can, I'm so worried about my little S
 
Back
Top